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Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)

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Subject: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 12:56 AM

OK Folks, here we go! It's time to get ready for the 2007 Folklore Society of Greater Washington Getaway! This year's Getaway will be November 2-5, at the West River Conference Center on the Chesapeake Bay, and you're all welcome to join the fun!

If you'd like more information about the Getaway, check the description on the FSGW site here. (right now this info refers to last year's event, but this year will be similar), or put "Getaway" into the filter box at the top of the Mudcat page, set the age for a year or two, and you'll get enough information to keep you reading for weeks.

The Program Committee (Carly Gewirz, Lorraine Van Buren, and I) met for our first planning meeting last weekend. We're looking at a fine lineup of invited guests, and beginning to sketch out a list of possible workshops, and now we're ready for your input! We can't really finalize the program until we know who will be there and what they want to do.

So, if you plan to come, please let us know that, and tell us what you would like to see on the program. Are there workshops you'd like to lead or attend? Workshops from previous years you'd like to see repeated (or not)? We're open to all suggestions, and although we can't promise that every one of them will end up in the final list, we can assure you that all will be given due consideration. You can post to this thread with your ideas, or PM any of us.

The Getaway is all about participation, so start participating now!

Looking forward to seeing you in November!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 09:34 AM

I'll be there, hopefully with Kendall. I really enjoyed Lisa Null's voice workshop last year. If I can find enough volunteers I would like to try a mummers play this year, if possible.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Maryrrf
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 09:52 AM

Mummer's play! That sound like fun - consider me your first volunteer!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 10:34 AM

I think a "lullaby and Cradle song" session would be nice.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 10:36 AM

Nice idea, MMario. Hopefully someone will bring props.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 12:05 PM

I know I can find enough volunteers to start the necessary infants, but we need more lead time.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 02:30 PM

Some of us have a head start, Amos.

I thought of this workshop too, though I thought of specifically including "Baby Bouncing Songs," since lullabies by themselves can get a little - well, sleep-inducing.

And I like the idea of the mummers play!

Dan Schatz


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 02:33 PM

"Baby Bouncing Songs,"

Can we leave the upper age limit off this one ( for the "baby")?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 08:54 PM

Whether or not I'm there depends a lot on the sleeping arrangements.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 09:06 PM

It all sounds wonderful but I'll still be in Australia.

2008 for sure!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 09:24 PM

I expect I'll be missing it again this year- but maybe next year? I hope so.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 09:51 PM

I plan (hope) to be there. No inspiration coming at present for workshops. Count me in as a worker ant in whatever capacity will be helpful.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Celtaddict
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 09:59 PM

I really liked the workshops on harmonizing, and also the ballads with a topic, such as supernatural, crime, shipwrecks.
The foreign language one was quite interesting but I would love to have participants bring 'handouts' with original language/English lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 10:10 PM

Next year will be back to October....that will help some people plan.
But we did quite well last year, and we need to concentrate on THIS year. If I understood correctly, they were planning a new dining hall, with the old one being available for activities. We might have some dances if there was interest.

I am always looking for new spins on song workshops...maybe something like the famous "Occupational Hazards" or "Songs of ONLY Non-Domesticated Animals" or, what ought to be easy these days.."Anti-War songs"....or variations on these. Still thinking..


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Songster Bob
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 11:54 PM

I'm of several minds over Getaway workshop subjects. Sometimes I think of kinds of songs I'm doing these days -- Civil War and / or 19th C. music, songwriting, political/topical songs -- and other times I think of topics I don't do myself -- well, at least don't do now -- like old-time string-band music or blues; in other words, genres of music, rather than topics of the songs themselves.

The best workshop schedule would be a mixture of genre workshops, topical workshops, even geographical workshops (since I think we'll have a few folks from "far away" as well as local folkals).

So, genres:

blues
old-time banjo, guitar, fiddle
ballad singing
harmony singing
Gospel
dance music (and even dancing, if that is possible)

topics:

political/topical/war/anti-war
historical eras (19th C., Civil War, WWI, WWII, 1950s?)
animal / vegetable / mineral / spirit world
work / play
money / lack of it

geographical styles (both vocal and instrumental)
Canadian / New England / British Isles / etc.
US regions (South, East, West, in-between)

I think we should look to having a balance of kinds, some genres, some topics, some geography, some styles (vocal, spoken, dance, instrumental, etc.), some pot-luck, some showcases for guests, etc.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 12:42 AM

Great start, folks! Keep 'em coming!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: kendall
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:09 AM

Clawhammer banjo.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Micca
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:41 AM

Kendall, you dont need a clawhammer , just any old hammer will do for a banjo!!
I would like, If I can make it to the Getaway, somthing like the Late Night Extra singing session that took place in the "Market" area after the Sunday night concert, it was a sort of Impromptu sing session, unmoderated, aand seemed to involve, John Roberts, Ron Davies, Bill D, Dick Greenhaus, CET and an assortment of Reprobates, idiots and general riff-raff, The singing was great and the songs included many rather questionable lyrics and it was tremendously enjoyable!! I dont think we could ever reproduce the expression on the face of the Lady who sang the version she knew of a song only to be joined in the chorus with the full uncensored adult version
she sang
" Hey gig-a-gig kiss a little pig
follow the band, please take my hand
and follow the band
Hey gig-a-gig kiss a little pig
follow the band,fall in a follow the band"....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:16 AM

I dunno, Micca, "Reprobates, idiots and general riff-raff," are hard to organize...but when they accidently reach critical mass, things just happen.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Midchuck
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:37 AM

I wouldn't be there anyway. It's too far for us to go unless Kris uses up two of her personal days.

But I still can't understand why they have to do battle with NOMAD.

Hope to be there the first year after Kris retires.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:47 AM

The camp's open dates determine the weekend. It isn't planned that way. And next year Getaway won't conflict with NOMAD. Again - the camp had the dates open.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:37 AM

I think we ought to have a separate thread for discussion/debate of the camp/Getaway in general, and leave this one for Program planning....so I shall start one.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 11:48 AM

right here


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM

Can we try to have a workshop/discussion on creativity ("Feeding the Muse") ?

Perhaps at some late hour, say 2 AM?

Where there will be less compition for attendence?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 04:46 PM

at 2AM, you can have almost any workshop you please, bruce..*grin*...attendees are a different matter.

You'd need to clarify the format well, no matter what the hour.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 04:50 PM

Well, the attempt a few years back had no ( zero) attendees, except for the two leaders MMario and myself). I can't do much worse than that, unless I don't show up myself.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 05:04 PM

hey...there's creative! A non-Happening! months of planning, then just visualize the possibilities.

(I...ummm...suspect that that prior event might make you study the concept and 'refine' it)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:08 AM

A mummers play--another of Jaqui's projects--sure, count me in !!!! I don't know what it that is, but it doesn't sound like it would involve being an inflatable flamingo wearing a corset, so PROBABLY a safe thing to attempt....

What Janie said, What Songster Bob said.. exactly. And I've fallen in love with the sound of clawhammer banjo.

It would be wonderful if some dancing could be incorporated. The Folk Project of Northern New Jersey does this in their spring and fall festivals, but I don't know how it's managed.

I have found myself wondering lately about the mechanism for writing songs--nothing grand, but just something that would help answer questions like, "I've got some things I want to say, and some rhymes, but can't quite get them together, and I'm stuck on the second verse, and how can I know I haven't just hijacked this nice tune from something I've heard and stored away?"

Two workshops that didn't especially interest me last year, but now that I'm learning guitar I would like so much to have heard would be Eleanor Ellis/Donna Fletcher's Fingerstyle Blues and Sylvia Herrold's Swing guitar (I caught two minutes of that last one and it was fascinating). I'm such a fan of Eleanor Ellis, now after hearing her at a house concert in February. Can I have a do-over?

Anything Balkan or Brazilian would be wonderful, singing, guitar or percussion.

I don't feel competent to lead workshops, but am very happy to do whatever else makes this amazing weekend happen.

with the greatest anticipation--Linda


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:13 AM

Oh! and the Parody workshop. GOT to have that one again!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 05:53 AM

Plus or minus?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST,micca at work
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:29 AM

Linda, I would be very happy to lead or co-lead the parodies workshop, as I have done in the past, if I make it to the Getaway, I too very much enjoy parodies, I treasure MMarios "Rudolf the Blue Balled Reindeer" amd It was where I first heard Lamarcas "Ring of the Niebelung"


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 06:43 AM

Just as a reminder ( any of them would be good again!)

2004 list of workshops


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: MMario
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 08:51 AM

That's Boris the blue-balled reindeer.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 10:30 AM

Well it sounds like you folks are planning another fabulous event. November still doesn't work for me though. I will be enjoying the crisp sea breezes of Dutch Harbor, Alaska, 800 miles out on the Aleutian Island chain. Tawmmie and I are hoping to visit again in 2008 and we will be retiring in 2010. We will definitely be back at the Getaway eventually. Have a blast.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:30 AM

Bruce, I got that 'plus or minus' joke, but I have no clue why I did and not many other people will. Maybe we should have a 'parroty' workshop.

I'd like to be there, but again, it's not looking so good. I'll miss work, gas costs a load and it would be a 9 hour drive. Aside from my level of exhaustion upon arrival, it would cost close to $500. I could drive down with the axe murderers from Maine (I haven't discounted the possibility of asking.), but I'd probably need a straight jacket waiting when I got to camp.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:37 AM

straight lines and hugs are available, but straight jackets? Aren't they a type of wasps, like yellow jackets but with a better personality?

I guess you need to tradeoff the impact of the trip down (plus or minus) vs the impact ( plus or minus) of the Getaway experience.

Anything to be done at this end to (help) make the result your attendence?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:58 AM

Send money.
(Yeah, I know this is gonna be deleted.)

Seriously, last year, it just got too far, too late in the year, and with the bunk beds, sounded too hard. I missed it though, so I'm still thinking about going this year.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:00 PM

ohh..thanks, Jeri, for tipping me off to the point of 'plus or minus'.

One of my minors in college was "Avoiding Math", so the embedded pun was lost on me for a minute.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 12:01 PM

I have a few cents to spare. And some ginger.

Well, try to think of what might be enough to get you here, and let us know- the schedule is still to be determined!

Any chance a train (or bus) would be practical? Less strain on the trip down and up.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Micca
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:10 PM

Jeri, if you want the journey to fly by and feel like it is too short, travel with Barry Finn driving...he is the storyteller to have with you on a long journey!!! ask Mary Sins


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 01:37 PM

I'm something of a math phobe, so I still don't get BB's plus or minus pun. No clue. I hate missing out, could someone explain it in words of one syllable?

Jeri, you were badly missed last year. I'm hoping you can come back. Of course if you don't try to take all the vegetation of the camp back with you, and you don't drive for hours in the opposide direction going home, the trip MIGHT seem shorter!!

Seriously, if those of us for whom the trip to West River is the equivalent of a commute to work, registered early and put in a bit extra in the scholarship fund, it should be a matter of course for those coming from much farther away to use as much of it as needed. Only seems fair!

--Linda


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Barry Finn
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 02:45 PM

Jeri, I rode with the Main-E-axe murderers from Maine + Mica last year & it was a great ride all round, cheap too when split so many ways. Mary even let me drive as long as I didn't turn around to tell stories. I hope to be riding down with them again (Hint) in what ever configuration they agree to.

Alaska Mike, you & Tawmmie will be missed but if you guys are thinking about 2008 maybe some of us Northern New Englanders can take your daughter down with us so it'll become a family thing & we can be asured of your coming. Got to tell you though that there may be something that's not alright with your kid, I think she likes this music, you'd better keep an eye out for her.

I would like to suggest a workshop/concert from Elizabeth LaPrelle, seeing as she won't come North because she's a bit to tied up with her schooling, so Elizabeth if you're reading this, there's a formal request that you attend, your favorite fan.

An' Linda, I hope that you'll be doing a workshop too.

A couple suggestions for workshops:

Bloodlust, gore, murder & mayhem (a 3 liter min requirement & unrelated to sex or rape-they are not the same things)

The supernatural, ghosts, hauntings, conjures,, spellbinders of a not so spiritual nature

Vulgarity, ranchy, sexually explicit & dam right rude songs not fit for a family style worshop & could I put forth as a workshop leader, Colleen Cleveland (if you'd dare to agree to it Colleen), who I heard earlier this year do 2 songs in pertictular from her family's repertoire that are tops in at least 2 of the above categories. Mark it as an "Adult Workshop XXX", not for the purde, victorian or faint of heart

Next topic, Revenge, punishment & payback - whippings, burnings & other cruelties we're fond of singing about

After reviewing my suggestions can anyone suggest a decent folkie therapist, I may need to check myself out. Go on tell me that there are more of you out there that find any of these appealing, please.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 03:04 PM

Barry, given that the folkie therapist who first comes to mind is the late (and great) Helen Schneyer, who could easily have come up with songs in any of those categories - maybe you'll be fine.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 03:13 PM

Jeri ..... you will be there........Mick


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 03:16 PM

Linda...you said 'parody'..BB said plus or minus..Jeri figgered out that he was thinking 'parity' in his head, which has a math/physics connection...THEN Jeri had to add 'parroty' just to confuse us...*grin*...(was it worth it?)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 03:19 PM

Twisted minds always get each others humor, Linda. Your lack of getting it means you are a well adjusted person.

BTW .... I got it. Shit.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 08:02 PM

If anyone's up for yet another "Roots of the Music" workshop, I have a few CDs I haven't played yet.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 08:08 PM

Mutter Mutter Mutter !! Cant make it this year ! but NEXT Year I am NOT taking any bookings for early October !!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:19 PM

Thanks for the explanation. I thought it might be something like that. Glad to hear I'm well adjusted!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Songster Bob
Date: 11 Jul 07 - 11:55 PM

"Clawhammer banjo."

I can handle that, with even a little on minstrel style (not really very much on it, but I'm learning). Could even do banjo styles, contrasting finger styles with stroke style (the 19th C. name for clawhammer).

Accompaniment workshop?
Guitar styles?
Mandolin?

Do you think teaching, show-off, compare-and-contrast, just what, in terms of instrumental workshops?

We once had a workshop a long time ago called, "making a song your own," in which people demonstrated how they approach performing a song so that it fits their 'style.' That is, once you decide to do a song, how do you make what you do different from everyone else? Or make it fit your strengths and avoid your not-so-strong-points? I might like to participate in something like that, you know?

Bob


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