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Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)

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Linda Goodman Zebooker 27 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM
Dan Schatz 27 Oct 07 - 10:19 AM
Amos 26 Oct 07 - 08:16 PM
Janie 26 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM
ranger1 26 Oct 07 - 07:39 PM
Bill D 26 Oct 07 - 06:15 PM
Nancy King 26 Oct 07 - 10:33 AM
Bill D 19 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM
ClaireBear 19 Oct 07 - 11:37 AM
MMario 19 Oct 07 - 08:52 AM
Charlie Baum 18 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM
beardedbruce 18 Oct 07 - 08:45 PM
ClaireBear 18 Oct 07 - 07:10 PM
GUEST,Barry 18 Oct 07 - 06:58 PM
ClaireBear 18 Oct 07 - 06:34 PM
Fortunato 18 Oct 07 - 06:01 PM
Charlie Baum 18 Oct 07 - 12:17 AM
GutBucketeer 17 Oct 07 - 11:53 PM
Janie 17 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM
Linda Goodman Zebooker 17 Oct 07 - 01:44 PM
Janie 08 Oct 07 - 11:17 PM
Linda Goodman Zebooker 02 Oct 07 - 02:16 AM
Fortunato 01 Oct 07 - 07:23 PM
GUEST,Nancy King at work 01 Oct 07 - 03:31 PM
Nancy King 30 Sep 07 - 07:46 PM
ClaireBear 29 Sep 07 - 12:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 27 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM

The schedule looks WONDERFUL. Some of the people and workshops I missed last year, and things I requested are there. I like the much longer workshops - they will allow participants to not have such wrenching decisions to make. And with the smaller spaces at West River, the longer workshops will let you be free-er to come and go without feeling like you are letting the performer/leaders down by walking out halfway.

So nice to see Joe Offer and Janie leading workshops.

And Gordon Bok!!!

Thanks to the Program Committee, and to all the brave and kindly souls giving their time to lead the workshops-- I hope you have as much fun.

--Linda


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 27 Oct 07 - 10:19 AM

What a wonderful weekend it will be. Thanks to the intrepid Program Committee for all the work - I know that it really did take a LOT of work to juggle everyone's schedules and preferences.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)
From: Amos
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 08:16 PM

Once again your mastery of suspense and conflict leading to an ultimate resolution and revelation has shown itself. Once agaoin you cleverly set challenges requiring folkies to rise above themselves and perform out of body feats of wonder.

A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)
From: Janie
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM

Looks Great!....wait....except.....AAaarrrghhhhhhh......what? Oh. OK. Nevermind. I can catch the last half hour of the Gospel workshop:>)

Thanks all y'all on the Program Committee, for pulling together another great selection and schedule.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)
From: ranger1
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 07:39 PM

Cool! But where's the cloning workshop?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!)
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 06:15 PM

Ok...thanks! I kinda like slightly fewer, but longer, workshops.

There's something for everyone, as usual! And all the late night stuff, too....

(and it will probably help having the concerts both in the dining hall, leaving the Retreat Center lounge in its basic setup...)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 10:33 AM

All right, people, we've finally whipped this thing into shape! Here is the schedule for this year's Getaway! This link takes you to Saturday's schedule, which contains a link at the top that will take you to Sunday. And Dean has incorporated a very cool feature which allows you to place your cursor on a workshop name and see the descriptive blurb.

Do note that the schedule is still subject to change, though we really don't have leeway to change it much. If you are a workshop leader and we have you scheduled in two places at once, then we'll change it. If you just want to be in two places at once, well, join the club. We've tried to have somewhat fewer workshops, with some of them longer than in the past, which should help people catch at least parts of the sessions they're interested in.

Remember all that talk earlier in this thread about "paired songwriting"? Well, we're going to try it. Folks will sign up when they arrive (or anytime until Saturday lunch), pairs will be assigned -- drawn from a hat -- right after lunch, and then you'll have 24 hours or so to come up with a song to be presented at the workshop on Sunday afternoon.

And Jacqui is putting together a mummers play to be presented at the Saturday evening concert -- if you'd like to be part of it, just come to the rehearsal workshop on Saturday afternoon.

Of course there's lots more as well: all of your old favorites like ballads, sea songs, and Gospel, plus plenty of new topics as well. I think it looks great!

See you all at the Getaway!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM

I've heard harps are what you GET for eternity...(there is often a harp at Getaway...sometimes two)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 11:37 AM

Sounds like my idea of heaven (no harp to carry...and believe me, I've had enough experience of that to last an eternity!)

C


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: MMario
Date: 19 Oct 07 - 08:52 AM

will I find a sufficiency of areas where a singing voice is all that's required, or am I likely to be highly frustrated by the fact that I don't have an instrument

oh boy will you find areas where a singing voice is all that's required! At least if it's anything like the Getaways I've attended.

and - I've even heard instrumental jams where voices were raised as part of the instrumentation (wordless - and haunting!)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM

The Getaway is a great place for voice-only people! And if perchance you need an instrumental accompaniment and someone proficient enough to provide it for you, you'll find those, too.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 08:45 PM

There will be some extra instruments around, to borrow as needed.


Send a list of what you might want....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 07:10 PM

Excellent -- then I needn't go out and purchase a shaky egg for the journey.

(Kidding!)

Thank you, Barry, that is exactly what I hoped to hear.

Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST,Barry
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 06:58 PM

Hi ClaireBear
I find that for myself I am completely happy not to bring an instrument along. Seeing as I only play the bodhran, most folks are happy that I find enough singing that it completely satisfies my soul.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 06:34 PM

If a jam congeals, it simply has too much pectin in it. Could a jam coalesce, perhaps?

And, speaking of jams, that reminds me -- I have a question about instruments at the Getaway. It's a subjective question, but I'd appreciate advice.

Background: I am primarily a singer. In addition...

1. I play dulcimer pretty well, but the small one is out for repair and won't likely be back in time for the Getaway; the large one is bulky and hasn't got a good case.

2. I also play duet concertina more or less adequately, but my squeezer is a temperamental antique and at the moment is geographically inconvenient. I'd just as soon not bring it.

3. I play tenor uke, but only as a rank beginner. This instrument at least has a pretty good case, so I could conceivably bring it, but I'm not good enough at it yet to get a great deal of joy out of letting anyone hear me play it.

(I play harp a bit, too, but let's not even go there!)

For all of the above reasons, my voice is the only instrument I've planned to bring to the Getaway. As long as I can stay singing, I'll be happy.

So tell me, will I find a sufficiency of areas where a singing voice is all that's required, or am I likely to be highly frustrated by the fact that I don't have an instrument to join into a jam with?

Thanks for your input,
Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 06:01 PM

Charlie, if a jam CONGEALS, there is something terribly wrong. I know the folkies are aging but that sounds too much like arteries hardening. Personally I prefer the term "come together" or "enjoin" or damn near anything but congeal. (With all due respect, of course)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 18 Oct 07 - 12:17 AM

Alas, the new dining hall isn't quite ready yet. (Next year, though!)

There will be jaming spaces in the retreat center lounge, the retreat center commons, the dining room, the nature center. If the weather holds and it's warm like it's been so far, there will be lots of outdoor spaces, and in 2008, we're movingback into October! I'm not sure about the other cabins late at night--we need to see how many people need quiet.

Actually at Ramblewood, there was hidden jamming--you wouldn't have known about the jam in cabin 15-16-17-18 (or whatever the number was--what was sometimes called "Mudcatville") unless you stumbled across it or someone told you about it. After a few years, people came to expect jamming there, and it was easier to find. At Camp Letts, you always had to run back and forth from the Boathouse to the Dining Room to Letts Lodge to the other places where music was happening.

When jams congeal spontaneously, you can't announce in advance where they will happen. Only experience will allow you to guess where they MIGHT be occurring.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 11:53 PM

I think that once they get the idea across to actually pay attention to folks request to be in or not be in a jam cabin then much of the problem s can be solved. If we have the whole facility another option would be to simply have one of the cabins be a performance/jam and storage space.    We could store instruments in the bedrooms, and play all night and not bother anyone.

Jim Bunch

Hoping to make it this year. I may have to be a day tripper.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM

Eagerly awaiting the schedule, (and knowing the program committee is at least as eager to get it finalized!).

Linda, I know just what you mean. The buildings at West River are simply not set up to allow the organic 'flow' that characterized Ramblewood. More privacy. More creature comforts. Grounds much easier to navigate for people with mobility issues.   More barriers to inclusiveness and cameraderie.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 01:44 PM

In addition to all the wonderful programming at the Getaway, there's also the magic music-making that happens at least partially spontaneously all around the place.

And last year, being the first year at the much smaller West River, that part didn't flow anywhere near as well as it was able to do in the bigger more rambling buildings at Camp Ramblewood (the only other Getaway site I have known).

At West River there just seemed to be all this spiky furniture in the way, or things took place in unknown-to-most locations where you wouldn't just happen along and decide to stay (like outside a bathroom deep in the interior of the main lodge). An obvious jam ran in the main building much of the time, but there were so many other activities going on on top of it, there almost wasn't any room to join, especially on the edges, and it was hard to hear.

Last year the weather outside was unusually cold even for that time of year, meaning no outside jamming - but the temperature inside all the buildings was super-hot, as no one seemed able to adjust the heat below about 85 degrees- that added to the difficulty.

While this subject isn't exactly "program", these free-flow things are often what you remember and love the most years and years later, so I'm posting here, rather than the other Getaway "kibbitzing" thread.

I've been thinking about this problem all year, and still don't have any very good solutions to offer. I just visited a folk weekend at a gorgeous facility in New Jersey that only put this in sharper focus for me. Made me want to tear my hair out with envy, but aside from towing that camp itself a couple of hundred miles south, it wouldn't help.

I've only been able to come up with two ideas that might improve things. One is to have jam locations announced somehow, verbally or written. I know we are still building new West River traditions, so on Friday it might not be known where things in addition to the moderated singaround are happening, and people should just know to feel free to open closed doors and explore around.

But by Saturday music-makers will probably have made some plans. If, for example, there's going to be a late-night jam in PAX, there should be a way to let everyone know. Also, perhaps people knowing they can and should be aggressive in moving clanking furniture around, even if doing so is temporarily noisy and there's already some music going on, would be helpful. (at appropriate pauses, of course) Charlie Baum's wonderful announcement to "Go forth and make music" just might not be sufficient anymore.

There was some talk of a new Dining Hall being built. Did that ever happen? And SUNDAY night singing in the main building was so wonderful. I hope, hope, hope IT happens just the same this year.

Linda, who's loves the Getaway and is still trying to like West River


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 08 Oct 07 - 11:17 PM

As the excitement builds....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 02 Oct 07 - 02:16 AM

Yay, Several things I was hoping for, but didn't realize they were possiblilites. Looks wonderful as always.

--Linda


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 01 Oct 07 - 07:23 PM

Looks good, Miss Nancy.
cheers, chance


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 01 Oct 07 - 03:31 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 30 Sep 07 - 07:46 PM

I'm sure you'll all agree it's high time for a word from the Getaway program committee, so here goes.

We're running a little later than we'd like this year, due to people being out of town or sick or otherwise unable to get together, but we do have a PRELIMINARY, PARTIAL list of workshops. Leaders have not yet been confirmed in several cases, and of course everything is subject to change right up to the last moment. The actual schedule won't be ready until much later, and we'll post a more complete workshop list when we get a few more things nailed down, but for now (in no particular order), we're planning on

Songs of peace around the world

Folksongs for children

Massage for musicians (Maria Fakhoury)

Guts and Gore: a celebration of gratuitous violence (Barry Finn &   Edmund Thomas)

Swing Guitar (Sylvia Herold)

Banjo (Joe Newberry)

Gospel (Andy Wallace and ?)

Ballads (John Roberts and ?)

Vocal Clinic (Lisa Null)

Songs about whores (Mary Sullivan)

Paired songwriting (Ernie Johnson)

Songwriters' showcase

Country Jam

Blues

Mountain songs


...and lots more!

I for one can hardly wait! See you there!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 29 Sep 07 - 12:37 PM

Thanks for the kind offer, but I'm renting a car so I can explore on the way and maintain some independence once I'm there.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 29 Sep 07 - 12:34 PM

Claire,

Let me know if you need a ride to Durham. I live about 10 miles west of Druham and will be driving right through on my way home from the Getaway.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 29 Sep 07 - 11:42 AM

SINSULL,

I have a sister who's lived in North Carolina for about 30 years without ever getting a visit from me, so I plan to set off to Durham after breakfast on Monday to remedy that. If I didn't, I'd be toast.

With luck, though, this will be the first of many visits to the east -- annual ones! And I'll be able to explore to the north, which is something I long to do.

Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 03:14 PM

Good news, Ms Bear. Plan to stay east for a few extra days?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 10:59 AM

I've just found out that I can come to my first Getaway, so please excuse my late submission to this thread (I'm sure this is way too late for new subjects), but how about a workshop on house-visiting traditions (such as wassailing, hoodening, souling, pace-egging, etc.) and the music that goes with them? Or starting a house-visiting tradition in a community that's never had one?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 28 Sep 07 - 09:47 AM

Hmmm- mining songs is a good category (all kinds of mining, or just coal?). Then there's "Mining for Songs" - songs we or others have had to search, research, and otherwise unearth from a variety of obscure sources.

What have been some of the great workshops of the past? I remember several years of Jonathan Eberhart's Songs for the Shower, and hasn't there been an "I Learned It At the Getaway" workshop?

Dan Schatz


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 06:40 PM

Mining songs are particularly apropos. And generally well-received.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 12:15 AM

Oops. Wrong thread. Shoulda posted to the other. Sorry. If a clone sees this, feel free to move it. (not that you need my permission:>)

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 12:13 AM

Whoopee! I do believe Sweet Annie has decided a determination of the environmental impact of 50,000 people engaged in 'Pumpkin Chunkin' can be put off another year in order for her to attend the Getaway.

Maybe there is a God after all. The Williams Sisters rule!

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST,Dan's other computer
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 11:41 PM

Are you kidding Barry?

"Great greeb gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts...."

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 10:34 PM

How to make Blood & Guts kid friendly??? Green & Yella!!!!

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 10:20 PM

Miner songs in minor keys

Spotlight on: Kingston Trio, or Peter Paul and Mary-o, or Beatles

Banjo jokes

Blues guitar workshop repeat

Feelin good pretty good

Feelin bad mighty bad

99 bottles of beer on the wall

Looking forward to reseeing everybody at the Getaway !
Annie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 03:12 PM

Gary, I think this year the emphasis will be on the first category you mentioned -- the "kid-friendly" songs. Not necessarily songs written specifically for kids, but songs kids particularly enjoy. At least that's what the Program Committee is thinking at this point.

We're just beginning to contact people about workshops and all, so it will be a while yet before we have anything concrete to tell anyone about the program. Just be assured it will be GREAT!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 12:07 PM

There are of course two ways to go on childrens' songs--either the kid-friendly songs/songs written for kids, or the songs that kids actually sing. I would up leading a workshop on the latter a few years back. It was lightly attended (in part because it was scheduled against the wedding celebrations), but fun anyway. I recall I amused Elizabeth LaPrelle by discovering I knew a verse to "Three Jolly Fishermen" that she didn't! 8-)

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Genie
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 04:09 AM

Just work that fear into your song, MMario. ;-D


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: MMario
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 08:18 AM

I like the idea of paired songwriting - but fear it equally as much!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: voyager
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 10:07 PM

Methinks fretted dulcimer for the workshop idea.

voyager


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:59 PM

A harmonica only sucks half the time.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:00 PM

Hammered dulcimer or fretted?

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: voyager
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 07:43 PM

Here's 3 ideas for a workshop all wrapped in 1 -

   A Dulcimer Workshop - Intermediate Skills

   Celebrations for a Grey Day - Songs to lift the spirits

   The Songs of Richard and Mimi Farina - Pack Up Your Folk Songs

voyager
'who recently got a new dulcimer and wants to play it as much as I can'


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 07:05 PM

LEJ, I'm not sure an instrument should be required. It would limit who could work with whom, and frankly, I write better tunes when I don't try to do the writing with an instrument.

So what's the difference between a harmonica and a banjo?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:46 PM

Jeri and Kat...thanks for the approval. For a while there I thought my suggestion was the equivalent of a fart in church.
I think it would be more fun to randomly assign the pairs, with one small stipulation : One of the two should have a basic ability to play an accompanying instrument. That way, someone who sings but plays no instrument would have a better chance at structuring not just the words but also the melody. So, the sign-up sheet would show, maybe, "Maggie...voice only" or "Tom...guitar only", or "Jeri...voice and guitar". Which would mean the only problem person would be someone who wrote "Jim...voice and banjo", because we'd still need to pair him with someone who played an instrument (insert rim-shot here).
Which reminds me. Do you know what the difference between a harmonica and a banjo is?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Janie
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:28 AM

Yer' right, Amos.

Janie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:44 PM

Oh, newspaper men meet such interesting people....


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning
From: GUEST,lamarca sans cookie
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:12 PM

I once led an Open Sing with the topic "Tabloid Crime". The idea was that you could sing whatever ballad or song of murder, grand theft, bribery, infidelity or what-have-you - but you had to introduce it with a headline fit for the New York Post, the London Daily Mirror or the National Enquirer...

Examples:
The Cruel Mother - "Secret Infanticide Revealed by Ghosts!"
Matty Groves - "Lovenest Broken by Homicidal Husband - 3 Dead in Murder-Suicide"
Oor Hamlet - "Ga-ga Prince on Deadly Rampage - 7 Dead in Denmark"
Jackie Monroe - "Transvestite Held in Jealousy Slaying - Local Officials Praise Deed"

You get the idea...


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