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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Barry Finn Date: 12 Jul 07 - 12:05 AM That's very interesting Bob, love the idea "making a song your own" that is. Barry |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Genie Date: 12 Jul 07 - 10:13 AM I'd love to have a Song Challenge! workshop. Maybe where you get a few silly news stories Friday night, and by late Saturday you have to come up with and present your singable versions of those. (This could tie in with the Sat night concert if some people were so inclined.) Alternatively, or in addition, it'd be nice to have a songwriting workshop. Preferably one that was a couple hours long and not too huge. Other workshop themes that I really like are: Original Mudcatter Songs Harmony Duets (Partner Songs) Parodies Gospel / Inspirational Bluegrass Foreign Language / Music Around The World Not suggesting we should do all those, just stating some of my workshop interests. G |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: TRUBRIT Date: 12 Jul 07 - 12:29 PM Not sure what the driving configuration will look like coming down from Maine but am a) assuming I will drive and b) happy to drive - Esmerelda will find her way. I need wheels to escape snoring and hard beds -- I'm off to a hotel. Tami, Jacqui, Sins -- that means you need a 4th in the room or you could use the vacant bed for SPACE!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: MMario Date: 13 Jul 07 - 01:46 PM hit me a few minutes back... What about a themed workshop "Bookends" - pairs of songs that are either oppisetes - or define the beginning and end of something.... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce Date: 17 Jul 07 - 07:48 AM How about a workshop on "Songs of the Computer Revolution" ? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce Date: 17 Jul 07 - 10:10 AM It could be "As the drum turns" or "Core Memories" |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos Date: 17 Jul 07 - 02:25 PM "Bits of Old Time Music", or "A Byte and a Song". "Tunes for Strings", "Down By the Auld Bit-Stream", "Byte My ASCII" also come to mind.... A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: SINSULL Date: 17 Jul 07 - 02:47 PM There's room at the inn, Barry. I believe there will be three cars from Maine this year. Jeri too is welcome and will be kidnappoed if she says "No". Coming back I believe I will have Micca in tow. It will work out - it always does. This year let's put some of the unnecessary luggage in an less packed car. Then maybe we can breathe (not ofcourse while Barry is driving). Redo 2004, bruce? Tinker and I would lovwe to do another wedding if Jacqui and Kendall are up for it. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GutBucketeer Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:02 AM I second the suggestion for a harmony singing workshop working on How as well as just doing it. Blues, Blues, Blues !!! Can anyone provide a good discussion on acoustic Blues styles. e.g. Piedmont versus Delta versus Mississippi Hill country. Political/campaigne songs would be fun. Old time string band jam. I sort of would like to NOT have a jug band workshop this year. JAB |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: TRUBRIT Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:04 AM Amos --- bad puns!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker Date: 18 Jul 07 - 08:04 AM Gutbucketeer, what great ideas! I can think of a few people whom I haven't seen at Getaways who might come just for those. Maybe a Getaway flyer, with the list of workshops could be made up - even if still a little tentative --, and handed out at Glen Echo Open Band (second Friday of the month Contra dance) and sent to S.P.U.D.S. open contra dance band in the Philladelphia area. --Linda |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Date: 27 Jul 07 - 05:06 PM Refresh to read later... Takes too long with my dial up to laod 30 days worth of threads... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Severn Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:35 PM Some workshop suggestions: 20th Century American Military Songs-World Wars to the Present. Ones you learned yourself. Male AND Female Jody Calls. Songs your father sang. Songs from "Bless "em All" to those beyond blessing. Home Fires Burning to Cities Burning. Out-Of-Wedlock Relationships In-Wedlock Relationships Songs You learned as a kid (with a recorded version sent up to Azizi) Vile Fluids (Alchohol, poisons, medicines, potions, sewage, even Scottish waulking songs. Probably some ideas in the "uses for urine" thread). Anything from "Cod Liver Oil" to the contents of Larry Marr's "Big Five Gallon Jar". Strangers In A Strange Land-(Songs about meeting up with and conflicts and adjustments to different cultures. Soldiers, tourists pilgrims, missionaries and just plain drifters and globetrotters, anything from "Lord Bateman" to "Call To A Foreign Field" to "The American Stranger" to "The Kerry Recruit" to countless sailors ashore on leave in Callao. Keys-to locks, mysteries, another's heart or Big Bill Broonzy's highway. Disguises-Anything from "The Half Hitch" to "Claudy Banks" to "Queen Elenor's Confession" to "Sovay" to "The Handome Cabin Boy" Aging- Gracefully or going "Over The Hill To The Poorhouse" Just some ideas. See if any of this floats..... And Dick, the Roots Workshops can continue forever or until you finally run out of material. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D Date: 27 Jul 07 - 06:41 PM Hey, Severn..those are some really good ideas! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Tinker Date: 27 Jul 07 - 07:03 PM Mary you're volunteering me again.... But we could do a smash banging anniversary party for all our favorite couples.... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Date: 27 Jul 07 - 07:33 PM Okay, I will make every attempt to make it this year and would be glad to do a workshop on North Mississippi Hillstomp Blues, with Gutbuckteer, who BTW plays in my band, Sidewalk Bob and the Pedestrians... Can't handle the Piedmont stuff (though I can play it) in terms of leadin' a workshop in it... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Date: 27 Jul 07 - 07:45 PM Hey, wait a minute... What's tyhis thing about no drenkin'... Hey, I'm a bluesman... How amny letters are their in "blues" and how many in the word "beers"??? There is a reason fir this... So what's the deal??? Like if I'm carrin' 'round a plastic cup that say's Pepsi on it an' it has beer in it is I gonna get attacked by a bunch of camp monitors and made to write stupid stiff on some blackboeard a thousand times before I can go home??? Hey, if I wanted that then I'd check into Betty Ford... Jus' funnin'... But what is the deal??? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos Date: 27 Jul 07 - 08:18 PM Bobert: It is a preference of the owners that we have such a rule, and we do have it; which rule we devoutly honor in the discrete breach thereof more than in the observance. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Date: 27 Jul 07 - 08:40 PM What the heck you jus say, Amos... We gotta join the Church of Scientology (LOL) before we get in??? 'Er worser... We gotta join the Taliban??? Shoot, all I wnata do is flirt with the womenz, play a little blues 'n walk 'round with a Pepsi cup with cheap beer in it... Can I do that??? Yes ______ No _______ I ain't joinin' not friggin cult here and spent the rest of my days chantin' 'n prayin'... If that's what the Getaway has become then you all gonna have to count this ol hillbilly out.., As fir the womenz, Iz real gald that Capt'n Kendall is talkin' about stayin home and doin' a little lobster huntin' 'cuase that will give me lots of opportuntity to flirt with Jacqui... Now if I could get Bill to sat home it would be a perfect hillbilly storm with both Jacqui and Rita to flirt with... Whew... Gotta go outside an' cool down... But nevermind that high school stuff, what's the low down on my Natural Lites??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Date: 28 Jul 07 - 03:27 AM Buy a jug of white grape juice. Pour it out. Decant your favorite white - it is, still, grape juice, is it not? Ditto red/purple grape juice. Or ditto your favorite beverage made from the bounty of the land, be it hops, corn, barley, etc., imbided (embided?) from a lovely mug. Just make sure the original container is tucked away in your luggage somewhere well out of sight and that you then cart it (them) off the site instead of tossing them in the trash. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Date: 28 Jul 07 - 08:03 AM Them camp counselers Got breathizers, I hear... (ha, they need the counselin' if they can't see in the pure enjoyment of Natural Light... I mean like why so they call it "natural"???) Pepsi cup won't do??? Gotta put my beer in a grape juice bottle??? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King Date: 28 Jul 07 - 01:58 PM Some really good program suggestions here! Keep 'em coming, please! We'll be getting down to serious program planning very soon, and welcome all suggestions. Bobert, don't worry about the no-alcohol business. We dealt with this sort of thing for 35 years before going to Camp Ramblewood, and we can (and did, last year) deal with it again. The West River staff were not at all obtrusive last year, but they were on site, and we just want everyone to be discreet. Last year, we discussed this issue in this thread. So please do come to the Getaway, and bring whatever beverage you want, along with some innocuous container for it. And haul out your empties, please. Oh, and -- uh -- could we please leave this thread for program ideas only? Other Getaway-related discussions might go here, perhaps. Looking forward to another great Getaway! Nancy |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Date: 28 Jul 07 - 02:56 PM Amos had the gist of it. Just remember to stay away from Mick and me if we suggest any midnight supply runs. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Date: 28 Jul 07 - 03:11 PM Along those lines, this song was penned by yours truly after last year's event I Lost the Lights I lost the lights, Lord I lost the lights I'm driving along with no dashboard in sight My tail-lights kaput and a Drunk on my Right Praise the Lord I lost the lights! The headlights are working the pavement is bright My buddies are laughing No sorrow in sight when a look in the rearview Filled me with fright Christ on a Crumpet I saw the Lights! License, registration car rental shite kid with the badge got me feelin uptight breathin my whiskey breath off to the right Shout Hallelujah! I switched on the lights Now We've got the lights Lord we're filled with Might! Big Package Liquors up on the right with a Jug fer the Folkies We head back through the Night Glory to Heaven! We got the Light! OHH yes, by the way, are we going to reunite the Dwellers of Room 102 again this year? And what about the All-night Music Dorm? Will there actually be such a thing. To me, the late night jams were the highlight of last year, but there sure were a lot of complaints about em. |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Date: 28 Jul 07 - 03:21 PM And now that I'm on a roll, how about this idea for a workshop : It would be called Pair Songwriting. Anyone interested would sign up and from that group, pairs of individuals would be teamed. Each pair would write an original song for presentation at the workshop on Sunday, and would have part of Friday and Saturday to write and prepare their creation. What do you think? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Date: 28 Jul 07 - 07:32 PM Yeah, okay... Nuff on that stuff... Like I said, I'd be more than happy to do what I've done in years past... Maybe a mini-concert and lead a blues jam... But seein' as Gutbuckteer and I play together somewhat regularilly and play home made isnstrumemts maybe he would do a workshop on homemade instrument and we could demonstrate... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: katlaughing Date: 28 Jul 07 - 07:35 PM The shared songwriting sounds like a great idea, LeeJ! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Severn Date: 28 Jul 07 - 07:50 PM And then next year, Tag Team Songwriting! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,goodnightgracie Date: 31 Jul 07 - 02:31 PM How about on the guilty pleasures category "standards" hosted by Lisa Null and Pete Kraemer? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Maryrrf Date: 31 Jul 07 - 03:50 PM My friend Maria will be coming (she doesn't go on the internet much) and she has offered to again do her Workshop for Shy Singers. (This really involves more posture and breathing techniques rather than talking yourself out of stage fright.) Also she suggested a mini class "Massage for Musicians" which would include techniques for self help or for a partner to deal with elbow problems (violinists), or shoulder problems (guitar) etc. This would be better in one of the larger rooms, if possible. (She is a Certified Massage Therapist specializing in neuromuscular massage btw). |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: CET Date: 31 Jul 07 - 08:38 PM Lots of great suggestions. It seems that Barry Finn and I think along similar lines, which worries me a great deal. "Bloodlust, gore, murder & mayhem": absolutely! We could make it a body count workshop, with a black board or a flip chart to keep score. Songs in languages other than English have been well received in the last couple of years. My personal favourite topic (for professional reasons, I suppose) is crime and punishment. How about a workshop on songs based on historical events. Of course, that would cut across other boundaries (crime, war, rebellion, disaster, etc) Edmund |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Janie Date: 31 Jul 07 - 10:56 PM Ooh, I like the songs based on historical events suggestions, Edmund. Songs about the the Mississippi or songs where a river figures prominently? Songs about poverty or class differences? I don't envy the program committee. So many ideas, just in this thread, and think of all the FSGW folks who are contributing ideas who don't post to Mudcat! What a full, rich, varied tradition is this genre called 'folk!. Janie |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Date: 01 Aug 07 - 11:59 AM Hmmm - I like the historical events songs, too - that worked well the one time I remember doing it in the past. (And I can think of several good songs!) The river songs makes me think of a slightly more broad "Inland Waterways" category - which I guess would include lakes and canals as well as rivers. It seems to be related in terms of musical threads. Dan Schatz |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Jeri Date: 01 Aug 07 - 07:43 PM Paired songwriting - YES! I get something out of listening to people talk about how they write songs, but that's passive. I like a challenge. Having a partner means you get feedback and help you don't normally get, and you give the same. It sounds like a LOT of fun. My question though is, should we choose our own partners, throw our names into a hat and draw for partners, or should a workshop leader pair people s/he thinks will work well together (or at least be fun to watch)? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Micca Date: 01 Aug 07 - 07:59 PM Well, Jeri, I would be thrilled to work with you on a song!! anytime, wether as a challenge or not! |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:33 PM Here's a thought - how about a workshop for children's songs? (I can't think of why kids are on my mind these days!) I remember we used to have children's songs workshops at the Getaway when I was a kid, and it was a big part of keeping me in love with folk music. I recognize that in recent years we've programmed a non-musical activity for kids during the Getaway, but perhaps we could have at least one music workshop that children might enjoy. Of course, it's possible no kids would come - but the adults would have a great time. For a lot of folk musicians, children's music is bread and butter, and there are so many wonderful kid-friendly songs. I wish I could come up with a good workshop title, though, to communicate that we aren't necessarily talking Disney here - not cutesy or even necessarily originally made with kids in mind - just songs kids would enjoy. Dan Schatz |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:48 PM I do plan to be there this year, barring.... never mind, it's a plan! Love the Adult idea (just you wait!), also 20th century military (especially propaganda songs). Done some time ago, and always a favorite for me: songs sung to different tunes and vice versa; the farther off, the better. Maybe Spanish language folk songs? Those that have entered our culture, and just ones we might particularly love. Love the kids' songs, I remember Caroline Paton and Joe Offer doing something magical like this; might have been Camp Songs, but could be Songs for Kids (and With, if they show up). Looking forward, like nobody's business.... Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Fortunato Date: 04 Aug 07 - 06:06 AM Nancy, I request a slide guitar workshop from Bobert. regards, chance |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Barry Date: 04 Aug 07 - 03:45 PM How bout we just bottle his neck? Barry |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King Date: 04 Aug 07 - 10:06 PM Now, Barry -- no violence, please. Oh, I forgot -- you're into murder and mayhem this year. Um, we'll see what we can do to accommodate you... Great suggestions, folks! Now if the program committee can ever find a time when we can all get together, we can start putting together some tentative lists, and eventually contacting individuals about leading workshops. Do keep in mind that it will be some time before we really have the program nailed down -- we have to figure out who's going to be there and what they want to do, and then see how we can cram it all into a reasonable schedule. But I do promise that all of your suggestions will receive due consideration (which is not to say that ALL of them will actually happen, of course). I also promise that we will have a fantastically great time at this year's Getaway! That one's easy -- we always do! Nancy |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Dani Date: 05 Aug 07 - 05:50 PM Another thought; my daughter (who missed Jim's instrument-making gig a few years ago) thought it would be fun to have one. I told her we have a ringer! That'll get you out of the jugband workshop business, Jim, unless you count trying things out. I only missed it for something involving singing, I'm sure, but it would be great fun if folks brought stuff and ideas for homemade noisemakers; then we can try them out at lunchtime, maybe!! Dani |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos Date: 05 Aug 07 - 08:26 PM IF we do River songs, it's got to be more than just the Mississippi, 'cuz it gets all the glory, and there are generic river songs as well that deserve a hearing, not to mention Shenandoah. A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,lamarca sans cookie Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:12 PM I once led an Open Sing with the topic "Tabloid Crime". The idea was that you could sing whatever ballad or song of murder, grand theft, bribery, infidelity or what-have-you - but you had to introduce it with a headline fit for the New York Post, the London Daily Mirror or the National Enquirer... Examples: The Cruel Mother - "Secret Infanticide Revealed by Ghosts!" Matty Groves - "Lovenest Broken by Homicidal Husband - 3 Dead in Murder-Suicide" Oor Hamlet - "Ga-ga Prince on Deadly Rampage - 7 Dead in Denmark" Jackie Monroe - "Transvestite Held in Jealousy Slaying - Local Officials Praise Deed" You get the idea... |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos Date: 05 Aug 07 - 09:44 PM Oh, newspaper men meet such interesting people.... A |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Date: 06 Aug 07 - 12:28 AM Yer' right, Amos. Janie |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:46 PM Jeri and Kat...thanks for the approval. For a while there I thought my suggestion was the equivalent of a fart in church. I think it would be more fun to randomly assign the pairs, with one small stipulation : One of the two should have a basic ability to play an accompanying instrument. That way, someone who sings but plays no instrument would have a better chance at structuring not just the words but also the melody. So, the sign-up sheet would show, maybe, "Maggie...voice only" or "Tom...guitar only", or "Jeri...voice and guitar". Which would mean the only problem person would be someone who wrote "Jim...voice and banjo", because we'd still need to pair him with someone who played an instrument (insert rim-shot here). Which reminds me. Do you know what the difference between a harmonica and a banjo is? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Jeri Date: 06 Aug 07 - 07:05 PM LEJ, I'm not sure an instrument should be required. It would limit who could work with whom, and frankly, I write better tunes when I don't try to do the writing with an instrument. So what's the difference between a harmonica and a banjo? |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: voyager Date: 06 Aug 07 - 07:43 PM Here's 3 ideas for a workshop all wrapped in 1 - A Dulcimer Workshop - Intermediate Skills Celebrations for a Grey Day - Songs to lift the spirits The Songs of Richard and Mimi Farina - Pack Up Your Folk Songs voyager 'who recently got a new dulcimer and wants to play it as much as I can' |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:00 PM Hammered dulcimer or fretted? Dan |
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Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:59 PM A harmonica only sucks half the time. |
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