BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix (movie)

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 05:47 AM

I used to be taught by the chap who Rowling based the character of Snape on. So I find it all very interesting. I went to the same school as JK Rowling (secondary and primary) so it's all rather interesting.

I once met Alan Rickman at a Theatre opening I'd helped design the leaflets and booklets for. He was very very charismatic. And handsome. mmmmmmm!

I'm looking forward to watching this new one. The small town bookshop near me are having a Harry Potter party evening tee hee.

Ewis

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Jul 07 - 01:56 AM

Centaurs may be a proud and easily offended race, but I'm sure not even they would be so silly as to kill a member of the Wizengamot and a close personal friend of the Minister for Magic - it could only harm their defence.

She was rescued but I seem to recall she didn't change much for the better after her experiences.... that sort of thing only happens in stories.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: harpmolly
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 10:55 PM

That's right! I forgot about that. ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: clueless don
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 09:12 AM

Haven't seen the movie yet, but in the 5th book Dumbledore goes into the forest and rescues Umbridge.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: harpmolly
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:30 AM

I just re-read "Half-Blood Prince" in preparation for Saturday, and it occurs to me that I think I'll re-read "Sorcerer's Stone" again before I read the last one. It'll be a really interesting look at the journey the books (and her writing) have taken.

Molly

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: alison
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 03:14 AM

good movie - really enjoyed it.....

and the Weasley twins... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

roll on the 21st

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: harpmolly
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 01:30 AM

Surrey...Umbridge makes a brief appearance at the end of the next book, so we must assume the centaurs didn't do away with her. Pity, really. :P

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 08:31 PM

I believe (and hope) that there will be more in the DVD that will explain things like Kreacher's appearance. Plus, he features more strongly in the next book so he had to be in this movie.

JoeClone: It might be a good idea to include a warning about spoilers at the beginning of this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Bainbo
Date: 17 Jul 07 - 06:15 PM

We went to one of the early-evening showings "to avoid the queues". Not that there were any at our local multiplex - there were screenings every half-hour.

So what we got was a half-empty cinema full of young kids who got bored really quickly dashing up and down the aisles and in and out of the doors. They weren't impressed by lots of dialogue and no Quidditch, I assume. As this was going on during some of the key scenes a lot of the effect was lost on me. Bah! Humbug! They shouldn't allow kids into these children's movies!

But I agree about Imelda Staunton, about Fred and George, about Sirius, and the three protagonists. I was just slightly irritated about details that were thrown in as a nod to longer plots in the book, but then not developed. Why was Kreacher there at all? Some of it felt like scenes from the book just strung together for the sake of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Surreysinger
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 08:02 PM

Oh yes - great bit that... but my friend and I ended up in an argument/discussion about whether or not she met a bad end when taken away by the centaurs... my friend's argument was that she appeared in the paper ... ergo she must have been all right.... I'm not convinced (and anyway she didn't deserve it!)

As to being within my rights re Ms Chatterbox ... yes, I know, but the effort of getting up and going back to tell her what I thought of her would have been great and every time I was on the point of doing so she shut up .. additionally she was accompanying a girl in a wheelchair (OK I know that shouldn't make a difference, but it did). I'm just amazed that the people sitting in front of her didn't say a blind word ... I'd have been leaping up and down by that point.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 07:53 PM

I thought it was great but I agree that some of the scenes seemed rushed. I hope they'll add some to it for the DVD version, maybe a director's cut.

I loved what they did with Umbridge and especially when Harry tells her, "I cannot tell a lie, Professor."

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 07:29 PM

I've got to the Victor Meldrew stage, where I quite enjoy the thought of getting some pillock like that chucked out by the management. It wouldn't leave me with "a feeling of awkwardness and simmering rage", it'd give me a warm glow of achievement...

But then I've come to the conclusion that my place in Hogwarts would be as a dissident member of Slytherin.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Anne Lister
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 06:34 PM

We're just back from seeing it - both very impressed, and particularly impressed with how Dan Radcliffe's acting abilities have come on apace. The scene where he turns the tables on Snape was great. And yes, three cheers for the Weasleys!

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: alanabit
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 06:07 PM

You would have been well within your rights to tell the woman loudly to shut up or leave. It was outrageous rudeness on her part to even have her mobile phone on.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Surreysinger
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 02:17 PM

Just got back from watching it. My enjoyment would have been enhanced had the wretched woman two rows back desisted from answering her mobile phone at the start, and then continuing to natter on and off for the whole of the film.... part of me wanted to get up and tell her what I thought and ask her to desist, but I knew I would then spend the rest of the film with a feeling of awkwardness and simmering rage... so I was narked instead!!

That said, I enjoyed the film a lot - the end was particularly good, and yes, I loved the kitties... and could see how wonderful Imelda Staunton's performance was. Wouldn't mind seeing it again after the school hols are over!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Jul 07 - 05:36 AM

I'm with you on that Art... in fact, I wish I'd waited til I got home.. the toilets in our local Showcase cinema were appalling - hardly any with paper and at least 3 with no locks!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 06:09 PM

Went to see it this afternoon. It wasn't bad...in fact, it joins the first Star Wars flick (and a few others) as a "can't leave to go to the rest room until it's over" movie.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Cluin
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 05:39 PM

Planning to go see "Hairy Peter - Odour of the Penis" next weekend. With the kids who will have seen it twice already by then.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 05:15 PM

That "I'm fourteen" Ruth quotes was in the previous film - in this one Harry is supposed to be 15. And Daniel Radcliffe is in fact still only 17.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 11:11 AM

Had 'Bugsy' been played by adults, there would be no problem. It's because it's children that some see the role of Tallulah as child prostitution, even though there are far worse things out there (has anyone else seen the trailers for 'Johnny and the Sprites' and feel deeply DEEPLY troubled about a single man, living in the woods, inviting children to his house to play with his sprites?). It's also because Jodie Foster and the child in the production I saw are such damned good actresses and play the role so convincingly.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 06:12 AM

BTW, the character of Tallulah in Buggsy Malone has always made me uncomfortable.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 05:18 AM

Well, my daughter's 13 and NONE of the boys she hangs around with look like that. Thank god.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 04:37 AM

Oh Ruth.... go look at any secondary school and tell me which are the 12yr olds and which are the 16yr olds... it's getting very VERY hard to tell the difference these days.

Only this week I witnessed a deeply disturbing performance by a 10yr old - OK, so it was in a school production of Bugsy Malone and she played Tallulah, but she vamped better than some streetwalkers I know!

Daniel Radcliffe wasn't exactly skinny and weak when he WAS 14...

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 04:25 AM

It's when they're all standing on that bridge getting ready to fly to london - all the stripey jumpers were making my eyes hurt!

Ah yes - Daniel Radcliffe is, indeed, "maturing" in more ways than just his acting talent. But when he said at one point, "I'm fourteen!" I almost laughed out loud. He looks considerably older. I can't begin to imagine what he or the others are going to look like by the time they film Deathly Hallows. It'll be like John Travolta and Olivia Newton John playing high school kids in Grease.

I was wondering whether his chiselled form had anything to do with preparing for his nekkid role in the production of Equus that he starred in earlier this year.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Jul 07 - 03:42 AM

I also noticed a larger than usual selection of knitwear - mostly created by Mrs Weasley!

But what I noticed most of all is that under that Weasley knitted wooly, Harry is becoming considerably more chiselled and firm...

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 07:28 PM

Over-inspected teachers across the country, who have been driven nearly crazy by all the paperwork and bureaucracy they've had to put up with for so many years, will be taking delight in the humiliation ultimately unleashed on Dolores Umbridge, representative of all that stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 07:07 PM

Sorry, Alanabit - I mix up those two all the time!

Imenlda Staunton was also very good as Umbridge... :)

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Surreysinger
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 06:33 PM

Seeing it on Monday afternoon (the decadence of going during other people's working days will, no doubt, add to the piquancy of the event) - can't wait. I've read all the books, but so far I haven't seen any of the films actually in the cinema.... countdown starts here!

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 05:51 PM

I liked the film. It started off rather slow, and I was actually starting to nod off, but it quickly picked up. Great effects, good story and the acting has improved. Best one so far.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 04:37 PM

Yep - very good indeed. I din't think Imelda Staunton deseved all that credit personaly but I guess it is just because the character she played and what I had in mind from the book were different. I'll bow to everyone elses judgement though and just agree to disagree:-)

Dave.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: alanabit
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 03:59 PM

Er Ruth, I thought Imelda Staunton had a small role in the film...

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 01:25 PM

It was fab. The best film so far, methinks. Daniel Radcliffe is maturing as an actor, and i think his character in the film felt more three-dimensional and sympathetic than the stroppy little sod that irritated the hell out of me in the book.

Luna Lovegood was especially good, and I also liked Gary Oldman a lot more in this film. Celia Imrie was perfect as Umbridge - again, a lot more believable than the character was in the book. Not sure about Helena B-C - thought she was a bit too mental, and not sinister enough. Lucius - ding dong. As usual.

The effects were brilliant.

Has anyone else noticed that they are all overly fond of knitwear? I mean, I know it's Scotland, but c'mon - even wizards have their street cred to think of.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 03:36 AM

Actually... I'd argue against the cinema viewing if you're prone to motion sickness. There are some amazing effects that might be lost on the small screen, sure.. but there are also some dizzying camera swoops that leave the cinema goer with a distinct feeling of sea-sickness, somewhat akin to the dodgy camera work on the Tom Cruise version of 'War of the Worlds'... Manitas was actually ill after seeing that, which we attributed to the swooping camera action, rather than the shameful way Mr Wells' excellent book was treated.

The way things go, the DVD will probably be out just in time for Christmas purchase. TV screens and definition these days are so good that I really don't think you'll miss much - and even if you've only got an old, steam powered telly, it's still going to be worth it.

True to form, my eccentric little offspring went 'erk' at the kissing and 'ahhhh' at the baby Thestral. Universal laugh from children and adults alike at the word 'wet' from Harry.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Rowan
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 10:33 PM

Walrus, while I sympathise, I suspect the special effects in the HP films (so far, at least) would be better appreciated on a cinema screen than a lounge room monitor. I'd recommend the cinema irrespective of any notions of being interested in HP as a phenomenon; I don't think the small screen can do enough justice to the cinematic effects in the films.

Either way, you'll enjoy the latest.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: The Walrus
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:05 PM

So book 7 is out on the 21st?
I expect that, if everything runs to form, I'll probably get a copy sometime in August (or possibly early September) when my local ASDA sell off hardback copies cheap (well, they have for the last few years, so why should this one be any different?).
A for the film, it's odds on that I'll not get to see it at the cinema, but I may well end up waiting until it comes out on DVD and then buying a cheap ex-rental copy.
I'll be interested in reading (and seeing) the latest products, but I'm not going to bust a gut over them.

W

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 05:48 PM

Now for the last book out on 21st...

I'm sorry for people who don't appreciate Harry Potter because it isn't great literature. Rather the sae way I feel sorry for people who look down their noses because it isn't Beethoven. As if you couldn't like both.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 05:37 PM

WHoo hooo!!

Went to see it this evening....

It's cool!

LURVE the knitty kitty...

Mew. Mew mew mew... mew.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: maire-aine
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 03:44 PM

Hope to see it tonight, but certainly before the weekend is over.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 03:36 PM

Released in UK yesterday, but it was my wedding anniversary. I'd promised my wife I'd take her out for the evening....


Good thing she like HP as well!

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: HouseCat
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 02:24 PM

We have OOTP in Imax here too but due to vertigo, I can't do Imax. I feel as if I'm falling through the night sky unchecked and end up clinging to my seat with my eyes squeezed shut. I REALLY hate that I can't go. But I AM going on Sunday to a normal theatre. We also can't wait for the HP Deathly Hallows Midnight Party at our local bookstore on the night of the release - lots of otherwise normal adults (and kids) dressed up as HP characters capering about and having a blast.

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Dazbo
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 02:11 PM

Well I'm looking forward to it and now I can swoon over hermione at last:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 12:37 PM

Never mind the Weasleys - I still swoon over Oliver Wood. Crikey, he was lovely.

Slightly more age-appropriate, but worrying for totally different reasons, is my ongoing crush on Lucius Malfoy...

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Noreen
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 11:32 AM

I'm taking my two kiddies (15 and 20!) to see it tomorrow, and all much looking forward to it- my daughter's seeing it first this evening with her friends but plans to see it several times (as she has the others).

Good to see the reviews on here, and to hear that the new film is J.K. Rowling's favourite so far.

Some interesting reviews at bbc.co.uk enertainment

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 10:38 AM

OOh - Imax harry potter! That would be great!

The closest I got, pun intended, was that we had to sit in the front row as we didn't get there early enough to find 4 seats together - and when they were grandly swooping about it would feel as if I were falling UPWARDS into the screen...

Excellent movie. Truly entertaining, and I did re-read the book - they changed some minor stuff, and didn't leave out much (I am thinking of one thing in particular which I won't mention).

However, I hadn't realized that my nephew hadn't read any of the books - and he didn't like it, it was too creepy for him (and he's 18!)... I think even if you hadn't read the books or weren't into the concept, that it would still be a good movie.

I can hardly wait for next Friday midnight!

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Wesley S
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 09:22 AM

By the way - we have a local theater that is showing the movie in IMAX. Has anyone seen it in that format yet?

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 08:43 AM

Are you certain you can count as far as that "certain age ", Liz?

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 07:40 AM

Oh please... The effect those Weasley twins have on women of a certain age would put the rating to 18, XXX and beyond!!!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: harpmolly
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 05:04 AM

Skipy...Actually, Ron's getting kind of cute. And his two brothers are simply devastating (if you like that slightly gangly, wickedly mischievous, Ewan McGregor-esque quality. ;))

Cheers,

Molly

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: alanabit
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 04:57 AM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter - Order of the Phoenix
From: skipy
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 04:40 AM

I am getting a little upset with the major film companies producing films that are totally unbelievable.

Take for instance the latest Harry Potter film.

Okay I can believe the Magic, the Ghosts, flying cars, creatures that talk, Demons and all the rest.


What I cannot accept is that a GINGER Freckled kid has TWO friends?????
Skipy (C&P)