BS: £75 to fill my car tank!

Subject: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 09:26 AM

77.39 litres of diesel from Tesco's today.
Bloody iniquitous!
G

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 09:28 AM

Thirty US dollars for a half tank for my wife's car the other day....

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: redsnapper
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 09:29 AM

What's a car?

RS

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 09:31 AM

It's what those few people in the US who don't have SUVs or pickup trucks still drive.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 10:39 AM

I can't do anything about the price of fuel. On the other hand, Lady Hillary has gotten a 25% improvement and rising in her mpg with the products I sell. If you cannot change the price of fuel, make it go further. If you want to know more, PM me.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 12:09 PM

We complain a lot here (in the US) about how fuel prices have risen, but the $3 per gallon (of gasoline/petrol) that it topped out at here is only £.38/liter, while your diesel price equates to $7.55/gallon (that is, always assuming I did the math right!). Diesel floats +/- $.25 with gasoline.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 01:11 PM

I drive one of those pickups (always have, probably always will--they're very useful when you actually do haul a lot of stuff around!). I regularly hit $50 and higher when I fill the tank. My goal is to drive as little and efficiently as possible. No point in buying another vehicle to lower the gas payments--this is paid for, a new car would be bought on time and all of the petrochemicals that would go into the manufacture of the plastic and such would be another environmental hit. I'll drive what I own as wisely as possible. Best I can do.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Morticia
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 01:56 PM

I told you not to drive that Chieftain tank, didn't I?

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:00 PM

Our gas here is $1.19/liter. Diesel is $1.01/liter. We pump the stuff outta the ground and refine it here. Go figure.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:17 PM

Yeh well we gotta a health service and that's how we pay for it. Atleast we don't have sick people worrying how they are going to pay for their drugs and medicines.

Anyway you live in Scotland Giok, you only need a full tank to get to England - and you know you don't like it.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:31 PM

Go figure Al.

"Anyway you live in Scotland Giok, you only need a full tank to get to England - and you know you don't like it."

If only mate. I live 290 miles from Gretna Green, just popping over the border from England doesn't mean you've seen all of Scotland, AND there's another 45 miles north to go from here before you fall off the edge too.
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:35 PM

weelittledrummer does bring an important point to the discussion. If the cost of gas is in part responsible for Canada's 'medicare' program, hell, double the price.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:43 PM

On second thought, double the tax on the gas. Damned oil companies are like a bottomless pit when it comes to bucks (dollars) and they seem to be accountable to no one but themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:52 PM

My major objection to SUVs and pickups is to those who drive them for show. I have no problem with folks who drive a pickup and actually haul stuff in it, or an SUV because they actually have to drive off-road or live/work in an area where four-wheel-drive is essential. It's the Cadillac Esplanades and the Lexus Whateveritis and the Mercedes Whosis that I object to.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Megan L
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 02:58 PM

Ach stoap moaning macKenzie ya greetin faced whirnin auld blighter. Ye ken fine ye live in paradise so quit bein a pleep there is aye a price tae pay

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Folkiedave
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:03 PM

I spent a month in Oregon a few years ago on a house exchange, and virtually every single day there was an article in the local paper complaining about the price if fuel for cars. (Unusually for the USA Oregon does not have a sales tax).

I guess fuel was at that time about 25% of the cost of fuel in the UK at the time.

When our swappers came back the first thing he said was "I'll never complain about the price of gas again".

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:05 PM

Yes, Rapaire... I call the Homobiles. PI, yes, but I don't care. When I pull up beside one a them there fancy big rigs that I have to look up at in my F150 4X4 and I can see that it has never seen an alder or a mudhole, I would chuckle if it wasn't so sad.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Big Phil
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:10 PM

21 gallon tank on my car, I dare not fill it up, no I cant afford to fill it up thanks to the tax we pay on our fuel. 21 gall tank - £105 to fill it up, £80 of that to the government in tax, great to live in the UK. How the Scots cope with the distances they have to drive, god only knows...............

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Phot
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:47 PM

I topped up the Discovery on Sunday, £78! and thats with the 5 pence discount voucher from Tesco! Roll on fitting the LPG conversion next year, and then the congestion charge can kiss my arse too!

Wassail!! Chris.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:51 PM

You have a petrol Disco Phot?
G.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Phot
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 03:56 PM

Oh yes! 3.5 V8, I must be mad...................But it don't half sound nice!

Wassail!! Chris.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 04:13 PM

Just think how much that would cost you if you lived in the UK full time ¦¬]
G.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Phot
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 04:29 PM

Try commuting 84 miles a day, five days a week John! Bloody Navy!

Wassail!! Chris.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 04:42 PM

Yo, Phot! Wassail! Good to see you. All okay with you and yours?

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Phot
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 05:16 PM

Hi Gnu! Fine thanks, too much work and not enough time off! But at least I'm at home at the moment! How's life on your side of the pond?

Wassail!! Chris.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: sneeble
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 07:14 PM

It costs me $100 to fill the tank, our gas is over 3 times the price comparatively to the US.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 07:38 PM

Sorry Giok. A bit cryptic for a retired pubsinger. What was I to figure - or was that a euphemism?

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Deckman
Date: 23 Jul 07 - 11:04 PM

YOU CAN BLAME PRESIENT bush FOR THIS!

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 12:29 AM

You can blame him for a lot of stuff, and this is part of it. I think it goes back to a plan in the year before the last election, when it appeared that he hoped to make Americans feel the pain of gas prices, but he'd come to the rescue and force them down just in time. Didn't work, did it?

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 03:40 AM

well if you will insist on driving your combine harvester everywhere... What kind of vehicle was it anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 04:32 AM

Land Rover Discovery Ella. I need it to tow my boat and/or my caravan, before the naysayers jump in. I also live in the north of Scotland where going off road is often a fact of life, and we still have real winters with snow.
I do have a small Citroen Berlingo diesel [60 mpg], which is used at all other times.
G.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 08:48 AM

Sorry, was joking, I know your alll away ooop north and beyond a bit. We still have real winters with snow here in Wales too, and yes i can fully understand the need for a LRD, it's just a shame that alot of people buy them but don't use them at all. Have you thought about adapting it for a bio fuel/cooking fat?

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 08:50 AM

I love Landrovers, they are the mutts doo dah's for off roading. You can stick all others they go for a while, but just won't cut the mustard for the really really tough stuff. A friend of mine uses his to do all sorts with. Put up marquees, tow things, goes places you wouldn't think it would.

Mind you, I used to do reasonably well in my old diesel pug. Ahhhh dreamy days, that car went everywhere. ahhhh

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 10:56 AM

Sounds as though you'd rather whine about the cost than reduce what you spend.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 10:59 AM

I have no choice in the matter, but thanks for the considerate remark!
G

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:01 PM

As I just PM'd John, there is a choice. PM me and find out how.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:19 PM

Yes indeed Barnacle Eric has a point. If you contented yourself with a new pair of wellies and a bar of kendal mint you could 'off road' (as you call it) for weeks - particularly if you weren't fond of kendal mint. It would last for ages.

Its not that we're not sympathetic. But why don't you stay in and watch Big brother like the rest of us. And apparently theres a new folk group called the Pussyact Dolls. You will miss all these things if you go gadding about in a military vehicle.

The thing is you're not John Wayne in The Sands of Iwo Jima. Its like Tracy says on Big brother.......deal with it!

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:33 PM

Oh the sybaritic life of the urbanite, with their big red/yellow/blue/green/orange buses passing the end of their road, and trains and all sorts of wonderful inventions for moving people about the streets.
How I long for the smell of the exhaust fumes and the noise of the traffic, I really don't know how I manage to bear a life of fresh air and clean water. I prefer having no bus services, and the nearest station 3 miles away, and all of FOUR trains in one whole day. Yes sir, I really think I should sell my fully paid up house and move to the big city, buy a house at twice what this one is worth, all for the joys of paying far too much to travel on smelly and after about 9 PM, perilous public transport. Oh why did I ever quit London after 35 glorious years and move to this backwater of a place. I'm sure that when I retire officially in October Mudcatters will have a whip round to help me pay my £1000 per month mortgage, so that they can rest secure in the knowledge that I have access to the wonderful efficient public transport system. After all pensioners get such large amounts of money from the generous UK government, so I should be able to live like a king.
Choice! What choice?
G ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Megan L
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:44 PM

3 miles to the nearest train hmmmm i vaguely remember those things. The last time i was on one i left Orkney on the 9 am boat and the train finally stopped at perth at 2am the bussed us the rest of the way to glasgow.

Lets see the nearest station is quite near 1 3/4 hours on the boat then a taxi ride. of course that would be fine if we could actually get on the train without the indignity of the wheelchair having to be manually lifted on board.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 02:57 PM

Megan,I had a boat like that once.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: GUEST,blindlemonsteve
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 03:08 PM

All you Diesel drivers out there, just do half tank diesel half tank vegetable oil, your car will run perfectly ok, and stop those thieving gits in westminster getting theyre grubby hands on your hard earned cash, also, you will be doing some good for the environment, there are no toxic emmissions from vegetable oil.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Phot
Date: 24 Jul 07 - 05:34 PM

On the good front, the price of crude fell today........So the pump price might go down sometime next year! And while I admit my Disco may not be the most fuel efficent car in the world, it's 18 years old, and with a little TLC will still be going in 20 years time, unlike most modern cars which have a design life of 6-8 years.

Mind you, just think how much it costs to keep a type 42 destroyer at sea for six months, how much diesel do you think 2 Rolls Royce Tyne gas turbines, 2 Rolls Royce Olympus gas turbines, and 4 Paxman Valenta V12 diesel engines drink a day?

Wassail!! Chris.

Subject: RE: BS: £75 to fill my car tank!
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 25 Jul 07 - 03:22 AM

People at work suggested I get public transport in to work. I work in a city, but live in the countryside.

For me, public transport means, walking for nearly an hour to the train stop (can be secluded), or if I'm lucky finding one of the 3 buses a day to the station, for a quicker route to the bus station. But this is unlikely.

Waiting for the train for the hourly service to the city I work in. But, sometimes that doesn't turn up, because the powers that be have decided to cancel that train, or the track is flooded, or there's a leaf on the line. Catching a train to the city - an hours trip.

Getting to the city, and then either a 45min walk, or wait 15 minutes for a connector train, then 15 minutes to nearer work, then a 5 minute walk again.

Tried it, it took me over 2 and a half hours to get in to work. (that was just one way - add 7.24 hours working, and then to do it all again to get home). If I miss the 5 or 6pm train home, then there's not one til hours later.

If I drive, it takes on average 45 to 1 hour max.

No comparison I'm afraid.

EWIS