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Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning

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ST. JAMES HOSPITAL
ST. JAMES INFIRMARY
THE UNFORTUNATE RAKE


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Roberto 04 Aug 07 - 12:23 PM
Megan L 04 Aug 07 - 12:27 PM
GUEST,Guest Singer 04 Aug 07 - 12:53 PM
BB 04 Aug 07 - 01:11 PM
Roberto 05 Aug 07 - 08:11 AM
BB 05 Aug 07 - 04:23 PM
GUEST,Roberto 06 Aug 07 - 04:53 AM
GUEST,Henryp 06 Aug 07 - 08:35 AM
BB 06 Aug 07 - 11:48 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: Roberto
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:23 PM

A need couple of words in Norma Waterson's recording of this version of The Unfortunate Rake

Oh send for the doctor to come straight away to me
Oh send for the doctor although it's too late
For if he would have told me of the ...(the word seems to begin with "t") he could salve (?) me
For I am a young girl cut down in my prime

Please, help. Thanks in advance. R


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: Megan L
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:27 PM

not aquaited with the recording but contextually could it be Trouble he could Save me.


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Subject: ADD Version: Bright Shiny Morning
From: GUEST,Guest Singer
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 12:53 PM

From

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/watersons/songs/brightshinymorning.html



Bright Shiny Morning

One bright shiny morning as I was out walking
One bright shiny morning so early one day
Well who should I meet but my own darling daughter
She was wrapped up in flannel most colder than clay

Come dearest mother come sit down beside me
Oh come dearest mother come and pity my crime
For my sad heart is aching my poor heart is breaking
I'm deep in salvation and surely must die

Send for the young man that first introduced me
Send for that young man who hurried my fate
For my poor head is aching and my bones they are breaking
I'm deep in salvation and surely must die

Oh send for the doctor to come straightaway to me
Oh send for the doctor although it's too late
For if he would have told me after ...
For I am a young guy cut down in my prime

Six jolly sailors come carry my coffin
Six jolly young sailors come and walk by my side
And a bunch of primroses to put on my coffin
For the people will smell me when passing them by

For my name is Loretta but don't call my name


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: BB
Date: 04 Aug 07 - 01:11 PM

Sounds like, "For if he would have told me of the trades he could have sold me", which I suppose is sort of possible, i.e. pills and potions? I'm sure of all the words except possibly 'trades'.

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: Roberto
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 08:11 AM

GUEST Singer: thank you, but the line missing is the one I'm looking for.
BB: I think it sounds more like "traits", but it doesn't make sense...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: BB
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 04:23 PM

It's actually a version from the West Indies - I wonder if that's why the line is worded as it is. I think 'trades' makes more sense than 'traits', but I don't think listening to it any more is going to help. We need to either go back to Norma or to her source.

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: GUEST,Roberto
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 04:53 AM

I think I've found the answer. At this site (http://www.newworldrecords.org/linernotes/80427.pdf) there is the text of ONE BRIGHT SUMMER MORNING sung by Beatrice Mopsey Johnson, St. Croix, 1980, wit this line: For if he would've told me the tricks he would've sold me,

Now, I think the stanza should be like this:

Oh send for the doctor to come straightaway to me
Oh send for the doctor although it's too late
For if he would have told me of the tricks he could've sold me
For I am a young girl cut down in my prime


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: GUEST,Henryp
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:35 AM

The girl is looking for treatment for syphilis.

http://sunny.crk.umn.edu/courses/biolknut/1020/micro4/sld006.htm   In the early 1900s, Paul Ehrlich recognized that certain dyes stained micro-organisms but not the animal cells. By using this concept of "selective toxicity," Ehrlich discovered that an arsenic-containing drug would inhibit Treponema (causative microbe of syphilis). He named the drug Salvarsan because it was a salvation against syphilis and contained arsenic.

There's another thread on the origin of the song Pills of White Mercury, which were also used as a treatment.

Tricks may be the missing word, although it doesn't seem to fit the context completely. There again, it may have been a slang word familiar at the time. Perhaps it is something closer to pills, drugs or treatment?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bright Shiny Morning
From: BB
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 11:48 AM

There are other versions of the song which mention 'pills of white mercury', which is what I was thinking of when I mentioned pills and potions ealier.

Could be 'tricks' that Norma sings - I certainly got the 't',the 'r'and the 's', and she does have to rush it slightly to get all the words in. And it does make more sense than 'trades'. Well done, Roberto, for finding it!

Barbara


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