Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Aug 07 - 04:53 PM "didn't look at this thread". I gotta proofread. I think Kate said the Cobbler's Daughter song was originally French--" but now it's from Yorkshire--like me." And "You Belong To Me" was a wonderful experience at the Getaway in the dining hall just standing around singing- a whole bunch of us---led by the wonderful young Appalachian ballad singer whose name escapes me--though we of course did it a la the Duprees. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Aug 07 - 04:34 PM Well, it's sure interesting. I loved this thread. All sorts of dramatis personae. Some information. I thought it was fascinating the same person had written Slowpoke and You Belong to Me. Totally different feel to the songs--and I love both of them. I've been trying for years to get a tick-tock instrument for Slowpoke. And Chilton Price's background was classical. Wikipedia may be unreliable on some topics but on Chilton Price it sounds right. Sure glad I didn't find look at this thread at work--would have been a terrible distraction--far too entertaining. As far as the Kate Rusby rendition, I'd agree she drastically changed the melody--basically she watered it down substantially. Jan said she should have written her own words and it would have been fine--and Jan LOVES Kate Rusby. I like her too, a lot--saw her at Sidmouth, and she was delightful--and had great stage presence and a great band. We particularly like her song about one of her parents killing her suitor with a broom. As she said "You know how it can happen, you're in the kitchen...." But it seems just possible that Diane Easby--if she's not just a wind-up merchant--may have overreacted. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Georgiansilver Date: 16 Aug 07 - 04:05 PM knit one---purl one---knit one---purl one....the thread has also had me in stitches! Even the needling was funny. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Crazy_Man_Michael (inactive) Date: 16 Aug 07 - 03:20 PM Though I must admit that the thread has taken on a somewhat Women's Institutionish look.....*knit one, purl one...dammit dropped a row...now what was you saying dearie...?* *LOL* |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Crazy Man Michael Date: 16 Aug 07 - 02:52 PM "Yawn. This thread appears to have been taken over by prepubescent schoolboys." I prefer to call it music hall humour, but to each their own.....*LOL* I'm Burlington Bertie I am ;-) |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 10:24 AM - Are you realy Doctor Who? - Well, I have to admit that I do, at the moment, live in a tardis *grin* |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Aug 07 - 10:12 AM Managed to watch Jim Moray's video again and then watch the Shrek video once more, with maybe a little Spiers & Bodenbetween 20 to and 5 past 3 and yet has taken many months to get to Canada. Are you realy Doctor Who? :D |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,AY Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 10:06 AM I think I may have one too many 0's there. *scratches head slowly grin* |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 10:04 AM - Mad old bat sets sail for Canada on the Lyme Bay pleasure steamer. . . - We had a very enjoyable cruise around The Napoli the other day, via Saskatchewan...both parts of it, The Napoli that is, not Saskatchewan. The cruise was enjoyable but The Napoli must win a prize for being the most boring and unromantic wreck in the History of Wrecks! Did you know though that the barge that held the crane that removed the crates (there was an old woman who swallowed a fly..) is the largest and most expensive barge in the world? It cost £1,000.000.000 a day to have it there. Unless of course, you know otherwise.... Full marks to the kids at Sidmouth for their Napoli play by the way, very good! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: The Borchester Echo Date: 16 Aug 07 - 09:49 AM Somebody made Richard Thompson's From Galway To Graceland into a R4 play. In fact I'm surprised they didn't repeat it today. Could be done with From Sidmouth To Saskatchewan I suppose. Mad old bat sets sail for Canada on the Lyme Bay pleasure steamer. . . Except that it would be the play with no point nor ending. Waiting for Samot you might say. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 09:40 AM Woopsie, forgot me name (above) again. Apologies! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST Date: 16 Aug 07 - 09:39 AM - There speaks a person with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. To say you "belong" to someone, that you're "in love" with someone who lives thousands of miles away and that you've never met, is delusional at best. - You said that, not me. I merely stated that you don't have to have 'met' someone first, to realise that you belong with them. It has nothing to do with being 12 years old, but everything to do with Old Souls. (not as in Poor Ol' Soul though) *grin* Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and watch Jim Moray's video again and then watch the Shrek video once more, with maybe a little Spiers & Boden to top it all off. Oh...and could I just say what a charming lad Jon Boden appears to be. I saw him a few times at Sidmouth chatting away to people and he was being so courteous and polite. Bit like that other Young Lad of Folk, Jim Causley, another charming person. Let's hear it for The Youngbloods! *grin* |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Black Hawk Date: 16 Aug 07 - 09:28 AM 'from Galway to Graceland ..................' |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ruth Archer Date: 16 Aug 07 - 09:06 AM "I think that's very sad. There speaks a person who I'd say has no understanding of souls. Of course you don't need to meet someone first. You simply know." There speaks a person with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. To say you "belong" to someone, that you're "in love" with someone who lives thousands of miles away and that you've never met, is delusional at best. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Aug 07 - 08:25 AM OMG... |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:53 AM I do beg your pardons...I of course meant *organic* above. Far be it from me to ever suggest that folk music could EVER put one into a state of bliss, for I have learnt over many a year that traditional music is only there to be pored over, argued over, discussed in hallowed tones in Cecil Sharp House. Traditional music is Organic..NOT Orgasmic.. No no no no no no no..NOT orgasmic...no no no no Yes! *heehee* |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ruth Archer Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:50 AM Lizzie Cornish - currently known as Ay Up |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:50 AM That's a link to er...'South Australia' they just happen to be singing it...bloody brilliantly too I might add! Fisherman's Friends are just the BEST sound! Has anyone got their CD 'Suck 'em and Sea' ? Orgasmic music!! *huge grin* - To "belong" to someone else, and for them to "belong" to you, wouldn't it help to have met them first? Only askin'. - I think that's very sad. There speaks a person who I'd say has no understanding of souls. Of course you don't need to meet someone first. You simply know. And you know, because, you belong. You belong to them and they belong to you. Hey we're back to the title of the thread! *whoopee smile* "As I went out one morning fair, heave away haul away, was there I met Miss Nancy Blair.." Ohhhh! That song, sung by those men is JUST OHHHHH! *orgasmic smile* |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: The Sandman Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:49 AM Excuse my ignorance,who has been banned. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ruth Archer Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:43 AM Well, Dave, banned members shouldn't be posting under any name at all. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:41 AM Ahhhhh - Got it at last, Diane. The Show of Hands link is a dead giveaway:-) Isn't there some mudcat rules about Guests posting with a consistant moniker? D. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:37 AM Guys is fast becoming a generic term for people of all genders. Example of US English creeping in over here. And yes, I am easily led:-P From the compact OED - guy1 • noun 1 informal a man. 2 (guys) N. Amer. informal people of either sex. 3 Brit. a figure representing the Catholic conspirator Guy Fawkes, burnt on a bonfire on 5 November to commemorate a plot to blow up Parliament in 1605. guy2 • noun a rope or line fixed to the ground to secure a tent. • verb secure with a guy or guys. — ORIGIN probably Low German. Covers a multitude of sins:-) So, Ted, what are you denying being? A catholic conspirator, a tent rope or a person of either sex? :-D Cheers D. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:27 AM Ay Up! *wink* did someone mention Bound For South Australia? *wink* Show of Hands and Fishermen's Friends sing South Australia - Bloody marvellous! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ruth Archer Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:37 AM "Being a person in love might I just say how beautiful it is to feel that you belong to someone and that they belong to you. If you don't feel this way then it's not love." To "belong" to someone else, and for them to "belong" to you, wouldn't it help to have met them first? Only askin'. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: The Borchester Echo Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:28 AM No, Ay Up isn't. Ay Up's in a fantasy hole: What, are you not whole on your own? You can be whole on your own, but to be whole because of someone else, is a whole other world. Bound For (or En Route For) not South Australia but Canada, maybe . . . |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Big Al Whittle Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:26 AM I'm no schoolboy, but I'm doin' allright (Jagger and Richard) |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Paco Rabanne Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:22 AM Neither am I. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Ruth Archer Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:00 AM Ay Up isn't a guy. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Aug 07 - 04:45 AM I don't think you guys are doing the cause of male equality any good you know! D. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive) Date: 16 Aug 07 - 04:38 AM Yawn. This thread appears to have been taken over by prepubescent schoolboys. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Georgiansilver Date: 16 Aug 07 - 03:28 AM I agree...a real 'cup'winner |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 16 Aug 07 - 03:26 AM - Double D - Now that's funny! *big grin* I know I'll probably get lynched for daring to laugh at what The Furher would deem a highly insensitive, politically incorrect, sexist, anti-feminist, degrading, oppressive joke, but ---- as I said further up this thread, credit where credit's due, because that's funny! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Cluin Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:36 PM Double D |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Crazy Man Michael Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:33 PM You know, that Jayne Mansfield had some big breasts. what key do you play it in? :-D |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: gnu Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:32 PM Yes, I know I said goodbye about 150 posts ago, but, I just had to check up and see what on earth another 150 posts could be about. Say, now, Cluin, there's a post that can't be argued with. To quote Chris Rock, "Everybody like a big tittie woman!" However, some princess might try. After all, they can't stand peas. Hmmm... what IS folk, eh? |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Georgiansilver Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM some....some..I know she had at least two but how many did she have? |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: TheSnail Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM Cluin You know, that Jayne Mansfield had some big breasts. SOME?! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Cluin Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:25 PM You know, that Jayne Mansfield had some big breasts. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:13 PM Ah, Patti Page- now there was a woman who could sing! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Georgiansilver Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:06 PM And my posts as I had already made the same mistake as you have Best wishes, Mike. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Brakn Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:05 PM Perhaps if you had read the damn post below my link.......... Lots of mistakes today. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Brakn Date: 15 Aug 07 - 01:01 PM Well done Crazy Man. Perhaps if you had read the thread below my link.......... |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Crazy Man Michael Date: 15 Aug 07 - 12:04 PM Being attacked by the likes of Ay Up is rather like being mauled by a six week old kitten, you admire its tenacity and are really amused by its presumption :-D |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Crazy Man Michael Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:59 AM Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Brakn Date: 15 Aug 07 - 06:19 AM Pee Wee King wrote it. and you give the Wikipedia entry on the song as your reference, Perhaps, Brakn, you should read the whole damn thing instead of selectively editing out the REAL composer of You Belong To Me, CHILTON PRICE from the Wikipedia entry, as follows: "It is credited to three writers: Pee Wee King, Redd Stewart, and Chilton Price. Actually PRICE WROTE THE SONG, and GAVE RIGHTS TO THE OTHER TWO IN EXCHANGE FOR PUBLICITY. She did this because of the success of an earlier hit which she had written, "Slow Poke," which had done so well with a similar arrangement that she felt she could do better by ceding partial credit for authorship to King and Stewart, rather than trying to publicize the song herself [1]. The original version of the song was recorded by Sue Thompson on Mercury's country label, soon covered by Patti Page, whose version was issued by Mercury as catalog number 5899, with the flip side "I Went to Your Wedding" (a bigger Patti Page hit, reaching #1). It entered the Billboard chart on August 22, 1952, and lasted 12 weeks on the chart, peaking at #4." |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Dave the Gnome Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:44 AM I don't think there is such a place as 'Frollocks'. I'm sure you can come up with a better premise for us to build on... :D |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:30 AM "There was an ol' woman from Frollocks Who loved to write nothing but B****cks" ......... Over to you Folks, I'd not want to spoil your fun here. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST,Ay Up Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:26 AM Pardon me for forgetting my namein the Guest post above this. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: GUEST Date: 15 Aug 07 - 11:25 AM - Thing is, I am adept at writing bollocks if I feel like it. - Now, now I think you underestimate yourself here, for it seems to me that you are also able to do it even when you're not feeling like it. Credit where credit is due. |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Georgiansilver Date: 15 Aug 07 - 10:57 AM OOps..you realised..sorry! |
Subject: RE: Kate Rusby, 'You belong to me' From: Georgiansilver Date: 15 Aug 07 - 10:56 AM Brakn....read your own reference and you will find that "Price wrote the song"....... Best wishes, Mike. |
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