BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)

Subject: BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 07:08 PM

Check this out. Almost unbelievably bad. I knew it could get bad, really bad, but I didn't know just how bad until I saw this. Seriously.

What is the ultimate possible confrontation? Well, it's William Shatner versus himself of course! Obviously. Okay, fine. But would you believe William Shatner as a cowboy versus William Shatner as a white comanche????????????????? With short white-man-like haircut and pale chest bared for all to see? Riding a comanche horse? Talking in quasi-noble savage cliches?

No, you wouldn't, right? Too incredibly tacky. No one would have the bad judgement to even think of doing it.

No one except whoever made this European western. Watch and be frikkin' astounded:   Shatner vs Shatner - "White Comanche"

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From: Cluin
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 07:34 PM

So he was still shaving his chest?

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From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 07:55 PM

Gawd, what an abomination! That is truly the tackiest, most repulsive thing I've seen in that genre!

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From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 08:06 PM

croll down and see his recitation of "Taxi". I particularly like the large oink lapels.

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From: Amos
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 08:46 PM

I am glad you are finally coming to your senses about this ungainly semi-human thespian, Little Hawk. I always had hope for you, even in the worst of your fevers.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 09:05 PM

Well, Amos, he always breaks new ground. That's what I like about Shatner. He goes where no man has gone before. ;-)

By the way, don't you think it's odd that he gets to play both parts?

Perhaps they are meant to be twin brothers, one brought up by the Comanches? If so...tres tragic!!!!

Or perhaps...that movie company was just desperately short of money, and they figured they'd get 2 parts for the price of one actor?

You have to wonder.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 09:49 PM

Heh! Here's Family Guy's take on Kirk/Shatner:

"The...Enterprise...has just...."

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From: Cluin
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 12:34 AM

It's good Kirk against Evil Kirk all over again.

But which is which?

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From: Cluin
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 12:37 AM

"All you women, stay back!"

...except for the one in the Tammy Wynette wig yelling "Johnny!"

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From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:19 AM

Does that say LOG on his drawers?

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From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:29 AM

Thank GOD I can 't get YouTube!

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:29 AM

From imdb:
"Filmed in Spain on a miniscule budget while William Shatner was on hiatus from playing Captain Kirk on "Star Trek" (1966), this film features him playing the dual role of half-breed twin brothers in the Old West."

"Johnny Moon: Next time, don't eat the peyote."

"Johnny Moon: Notah is well-named... his liver is white, like his Yankee father... his heart burns blacker than the skin of his Comanche mother. He's white-bellied, like his name..."The Snake."
Notah: Notah's brother talks like the white man he thinks he is. He's afraid... to be Comanche."

This is truly amazing. I did not realize that Shatner had a performance of this magnitude in his oeuvre.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:48 AM

Yes, it is remarkable the way the Great Man takes a piss poor script and a wretchedly low budget film and somehow turns it into....art. Note the subtle way that he depicts the inner torment of the brothers, caught in an inevitable and tragic clash between their diverse cultural heritages. I'm surprised this movie is not better known, but it is often the case that a work of this degree of psychological complexity fails to gain much attention at the box office. It's simply over the heads of most viewers. ;-)

There are several oddities in the film, probably put in deliberately as archetypal symbols, rather than being intended as depictions of literal reality. (Let's hope so, anyway!)

For example...

1. Note that the Comanche brother, Notah, does not appear to have gained any sun tan! This, despite his years of normally parading around bare from the waist up in the hot desert sun, so as to tantalize all those Comanche women with his magnificent hairless chest.

2. Note that Notah's haircut is like a white man's. In fact, it's exactly like Johnny Moon's haircut. It's really, really short. Was this normal for Comanches? Apparently not, judging by the other "Indians" shown in the film. So why? Well, like I said, it's a symbol. It is meant to show that he cannot escape his half-white heritage.

"So...why didn't they make it short on the one side, and long on the other, then?" you ask....

Now, look here, there are decent limits to how far symbology should be taken in an "art" film!

3. Note the interesting warwhoops given be the combatants. Is this how Comanches really whooped? Well, possibly, but who can say? Let's just assume that it is correct and not look too deeply into the matter, okay? ;-)

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 10:56 AM

I liked how they rode past each other and shot from about 10 feet away and missed. It took three passes before either scored a hit. I'm guessing this is because neither really wanted to kill his twin brother. The inner torment is clear as you look into their (his) faces (face) in the close-ups. I think some psych major could revolutionize the field with a dissertation on this. Probably wind up on Oprah or Dr. Phil.

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From: Bill D
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 11:26 AM

He begins the 'fight' by tying on a HEADBAND! He doesn't have enough hair to bother.

And jousting, with pistols?

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From: Cluin
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 07:36 PM

"Johnny!"

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 07:54 PM

Bill, the headband in that scene has nothing to do with how much hair one has. A warrior ties on a headband to denote his determination to conquer or to die. It's a ceremonial act. This is clearly what the character in the film is doing. Japanese servicemen in WWII frequently tied ceremonial headbands on for that very reason before a major battle, and they had about as short a haircut as you can get, in most cases.

Sure...there can also be some practical reasons for tying on a headband before a fight. If you have longer hair, it helps keep it out of your eyes. It also helps absorb sweat which might get in your eyes.

In the case of the movie scene, though, it is clearly a symbolic act, similar to that of the Japanese WWII pilot who ties a rising sun headband around his head before going out on what he expects may well be his last mission. He is signalling his complete willingness to die, and not flinch from death.

Whether Comanches would do such a thing before a fight, I don't know... ;-) Maybe. Maybe not.

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From: Bill D
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 08:53 PM

Ok, so the headband makes a modicum of sense, even though it don't ring true in the scene....

but riding at full speed on horseback and firing pistols? I'd be willing to bet that neither the Japanese nor the Comanches have tried that....next they'll be fencing with spears.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 09:19 PM

Yeah. LOL! Nothing rings true in that scene. That's the first thing one notices about it. I'm willing to bet that "White Comanche" is among the 40 or 50 worst movies ever made in history.

Fencing with spears would actually have been much better, and something I could see Comanches doing. They were famous for their superb ability to fight on horseback (the "cossacks of the Plains", they were called by some), and they did use spears a lot in battle.

The spears were often decorated with feathers and streamers. Now, THAT would have made quite a scene. Too bad I wasn't there to drop a hint in Bill's ear before they finished shooting (the scene).

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From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 12:37 AM

And why exactly did he take off his shirt? Besides the tittilation factor, I mean.

I was taken by Comanche Shatner's headband's rakish angle. Kind of like wearing your baseball cap sideways.

So...which brother died and why didn't I get to see him roasted?

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 12:39 AM

THAT is indeed a burning question...

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From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 12:45 AM

How come real guns go BHOOH and guns in Westerns go Ga-ZAANG ?

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From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:19 PM

The headband was tied on in that scene so you couldn't tell which Shat was which. So they were both wearing headband. Contributing to the confusion was the changing camera angles and multiple jousting passes. The old shell game. Heightened tension until one of them gets killed and you don't know who. I guess you were supposed to care at this point. Or maybe just so they could film all the duel scenes quickly at the same time with no costume change and save money.

Got a burning desire to see this flick now?

"Johnny!"

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:22 PM

I think it was Johnny who got killed and fell in the street, and it was Notah who rode back to the Indian camp and fell dead on the ground....but how can we know for sure?

And more importantly, do we really care? ;-)

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From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:38 PM

This is Shat at his shattiest!

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From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:44 PM

I think the survivor carried the loser of the duel back to be "burned on the fire". The body of whoever was shot was gone from the town's main street after the dust had cleared. Looks like the burnee was still alive when dropped off the horse, though.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:41 PM

Good lord! Cluin, that was one hell of a weird Shatner video you provided the link to there. I am almost speechless.

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From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:44 PM

Actually that clip increases my respect for Overkill Bill. The man is a true professional. I don't think you could pay me enough to do something like that. In close-up, even.

That's Oscar material.

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From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:49 PM

Then there's this bit of imaginative editing:

Star Trek Meets Monty Python.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:01 PM

Heh! Now, there's a bit of whimsy. My, they were young, weren't they?

But I'm still feeling queasy over that scene with the orange. You're right, Bill must have a lot of guts to take on a scene like that. A true professional. Most people just couldn't do it.

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From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:04 PM

Seducing a piece of citrus fruit and performing enthusiastic orangilingus...

All while wearing lipstick.

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From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 03:09 PM

Yeah. Why the lipstick?

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 03:31 PM

I think the lipstick was because he was being a sort of vampire-ish figure. I don't know if all vampires wear lipstick but I know Grandpa from 'The Munsters' did.

Subject: RE: BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 03:38 PM

Yes, that would be my guess too. It's an incredibly creepy scene.

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 04:18 PM

Creepy, yes. I've always liked grapefruit. Not sure if I will ever be able to eat one again.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 05:41 PM

Okay, you think that was creepy? Try this.

Bill Shatner has a very good year....

If you can sit through the whole thing, you are tougher than most people...

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From: Cluin
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 04:42 PM

And of course there's this classic:

The Shatman does Rocketman.

Stewie on Family Guy did a send-up of that one a couple of years ago. Talk about your low percentile jokes. Had to leave a lot of people scratching their heads in bogglement.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 04:47 PM

Ahhh...but for those in on the joke, it's sheer delight.

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 04:57 PM

What did Sh*tner think of his preformances, I wonder. He looks like he is just screwing around in "It was a Very Good Year." Harder to tell in "Rocket Man." I couldn't get all the way through that one, especially since I had just watched the first (all the way through, I am made of pretty stern stuff), but it has send up written all over it. The Family Guy bit was perfect.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 06:58 PM

Well, one thing for sure, he knows he can't sing. He never even tries to. He orates instead. I get the impression he is doing it mostly as a send-up. Mind you, people on TV shows keep asking him to do it, so I guess he believes in giving people what they want.

Family Guy has gotten quite a bit of mileage out of Mr Shatner.

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From: Cluin
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 12:46 PM

from the liner notes of Spaced Out:

"I've been entranced with music for the longest time," (Shatner) explained in 1972, "and the bane of my life is I really can't sing... I'm kind of feeling my way into an area that I'm discovering."

Feeling? Feeling? Ripping and rending, more like. Subtlety is not one of Overkill Bill's strong points.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 12:53 PM

He works with the tools God gave him, Cluin... ;-) I think that if he tried to be subtle, no one would notice. He may even have tried it, discovered that, and decided to forget about subtlety.

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 01:01 PM

Did anyone else see any of the game show 'Show Me the Money' that The Shanter hosted a few months ago? He was in fine form, completely over the top. From what little I watched, I thought he knew it was a stupid show and just picked it up and ran with it. He was dancing with the contestants.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 01:10 PM

Heh! He gives people exactly what they have come to expect.

Say, listen to this: "takes lots of cash to get the rest..."

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From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 01:49 PM

Recently, we were discussing the cheesy '70s cautionary film "Go Ask Alice" with my teen-aged son, and it came up that no other than El Shatner played the (college professor!) father of the drugged out main character...the man has range, dammit! I mean, has anyone else here seen "Incubus"?!

~D

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 04:13 PM

I think he played the part very well in that Twilight Zone episode about the gremlin on the airplane wing. Yes, he does have range.

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From: Cluin
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 04:21 PM

That episode was long before he started caricaturing himself, LH.

Can't fault him for that though. Other people were making good money caricaturing the Shatman; he may as well, too.

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From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 08:24 AM

My (Canadian) partner remembers reading "Julius Caesar" in high school, using an edition featuring photos of a scantily clad '50s era Shatner playing Cassius at Stratford Festival (back when he still had a lean and hungry look!). Of course, previous readers had obligingly provided talk bubbles with things like, "Beam me up, Brutus," etc.

But seriously, what CAN'T the man do? Thespian, singer, ambulance-chaser shill; why, just recently he got us a great deal on some airline tickets!

~D

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From: SharonA
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM

This is a simply great thread (about a greatly simple man!). "White Comanche" and "Ruby Red" were a revelation to me, and I couldn't keep a straight face through the intro to "Very Good Year" any more than Shatner himself could. Let's not forget his current role on the wackily weird "Boston Legal" TV series, too.

But let's be fair: Shatner isn't the only one who was no stranger in that strange land of the Sixties. Witness Leonard Nimoy's Ballad of Bilbo Baggins

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From: Cluin
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 02:09 PM

You just can't look away, can you? It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

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From: terrier
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 02:27 PM

Now I wish I had looked away! I think I'm turned to STONE.......

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 03:06 PM

Yeah, that Nimoy video is just about the worst thing of its kind that was ever done. Blood-chillingly awful. It doesn't help that Nimoy actually can sing...to a point...he stays fairly well on key. No, it would have been much, much funnier if done by Shatner.

Now, here's Kevin Pollack doing some great standup comedy of Star Trek. He plays William Shatner, in the role of James T. Kirk. Shatner, however, has been placed in an unexpected situation. Due to the other cast members holding out for more cash...or whatever...their roles have been taken by various genuine celebrities of the movie and TV industry of the time (sometime in the 80's, it would appear. The results are hilarious, and Kirk is very confused by how his crew is acting.

Chekov gets played by Robin Williams, doing his "Mork" routine from Mork and Mindy.

Spock gets played by Peter Falk, acting like he does when he plays Columbo.

McCoy gets played by Jack Nicholson! This is probably the best parody of all. Gloriously creepy.

Scottie gets played by.....? Danged if I know. Some drunken sot with an accent. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be the spaced out guy from Taxi or the spaced out guy from WKRP in Cincinnati...or???

Maybe someone else can tell me.

At any rate, here it is:

Kirk's crew goes totally mad...

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From: SharonA
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 04:00 PM

Little Hawk, I'm certain that Pollak is imitating Christopher Lloyd (as the spaced-out guy from "Taxi"), not Peter Falk, in the role of Spock. For Scotty's role, I'm also flummoxed as to whom Pollak is sending up. Same goes for the alien's voice.

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From: SharonA
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 04:06 PM

Oh! Wait, I do know who Scotty's supposed to be! Dudley Moore!!!

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From: terrier
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 04:48 PM

I like it! The guy's got to be good if even a Brit can understand it. But has anyone sussed out who the alien is yet? I think the Christopher Lloyd character is right but there again I don't know what WKRP is...

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 05:18 PM

You may be right, Sharon, about the Spock characterization...but wouldn't Peter Falk be just marvelous to parody doing his "Columbo" schtick?

Too bad he didn't get Fonzie in there too! ;-) He could have played Sulu. That would have really driven poor Kirk up the wall.

And how about those Shatneristic mannerisms and odd pacing of dialogue?

"Their persoNALities....their....peson-naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalities...have changed!       Idon'tknowwhattodo.    Kirkout."

LOL!

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From: Cluin
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 09:25 PM

The alien was supposed to be Brian Boitano.

And no, I don't get it either.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 12:24 AM

Nor do I.

Subject: RE: BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)
From: SharonA
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 10:11 AM

According to one of the responses to the YouTube clip, Kevin Pollak had done a more extended imitation of Boitano earlier in that routine, and worked it into the Shatner sketch to end the routine.

I've seen stand-up comedians do that more and more lately -- put part of an earlier bit into the last bit as a sort of exclamation point on the whole routine -- and it annoys me. I guess it's supposed to be clever, but to me it's just an affectation. It's a kind of a cheap laugh, since the comedian already knows that the audience found it funny the first time. Sorry, but I don't find it as funny the second time it pops up in the routine; it lets me down. "Oh, that old thing again," I find myself thinking. Why can't they close with something new that will make me laugh, rather than something that makes me work to remember why it was supposed to be funny several minutes ago?

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 11:40 AM

They do it just to bug you, Sharon. It's a conspiracy. ;-)

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From: Cluin
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 03:28 PM

It's a way to close. You know, coming full circle? It was in style in documentaries several years ago, working back to the point you started from. James Burke was famous for it.

But no, Little Hawk is correct.

Subject: RE: BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)
From: SharonA
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 04:10 PM

Yup, Cluin, I know it's a way to "come full circle" (like repeating your thesis statement at the end of one's term paper).... sort of... except that these comedians don't really go back to the point they started from, just to something from a sketch in the first half or two-thirds of the routine. And the style doesn't really "close" the routine in the sense of wrapping it neatly or buttoning it up snugly. It's more like a knot that has been tied in a rope: they take the end, stick it through a loop in the middle, and give it a quick jerk.

Don't know who James Burke is, but if he was an innovator of this style, then IMO he's been imitated by too many others! Ah well, since everyone is doing it, pretty soon someone will come along with a different innovation, and everyone will follow that for a while until audiences tire of it (and it drives me crazy in the meantime), etc., etc.

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From: robomatic
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 05:32 PM

Star Trek, the original, was a pretty short lived series. Can't blame the guy for picking up a paycheck while it was offered.

It still beats "Ishtar" all to hell.

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 01:26 PM

"Don't know who James Burke is"

He was the presenter for a multi-part TV show called "Connections" (the title here in the U.S. was "The Day the Universe Changed"). When I watched it 20 odd years ago I thought it was really good. He would start with some tidbit of histroy and follow a thread from that to some other, seemingly unrelated, occurence (sort of like Dr. Suess' "Because a Little Bug Went Ker-shoo" or what ever the title was). It showed how everything was connected, hence the name.


BTW, last night I watched Shatner in the lawyer show he is in now (can't remember the name), he really is pretty good in that. It showed clips of him, as a lawyer, in a show from the late 50's. These scenes were used as flashbacks for his current character.

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 05:22 PM

It's called "Boston Legal".

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 12:07 PM

Do you watch it, LH? I have only ever seen it a couple of times.

Subject: RE: BS: Sh*tner vs Sh?tner (?????)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 12:12 PM

I don't watch TV at home...but I've seen a couple of episodes of it at a friend's house. I think Shatner is excellent on that show, and the show itself is pretty good too.

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From: KB in Iowa
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 12:23 PM

I have seen it twice now and from what I have seen I agree, both it and Shatner seem quite good. Doesn't mean I will start watching it regularly, though.