BS: Avert The Draft

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:29 PM

We call it conscription, much more English.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:05 PM

Yeah, I get your drift, Azizi. You're clearly a
"dangerous radical"! Quite possibly you might be seen as a threat to the powers that be. ;-) I like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 04:58 PM

"Because the middle and upper classes can get deferrments..."

Y'know, I should leave it at the fact that it is a Democrat proposal, but I do kind of like the idea. And in the long run, it was because of the draft that Viet Nam was ultimately so unpopular that we accepted the loss of a war so our brothers could come home.

I was raised middle class through much of the 60s -- 'til dad offed himself -- but though I was one year too young to be drafted, my family went three for three -- all three of my older brothers were drafted. One of them even avoided -- so to speak -- the draft, until he finished college. Then his number still came up.

It is a re-write of history to say that enough middle class boys avoided the draft, such that a draft would have no effect on the middle class.

Surely every American mudcatter knows of at least a few middle class classmates who were drafted. I sure did.

And if the poor are drafted, well, curiously, the arguement (a la Rangel) is that the military is already made up of all poor people now. How much different would it be?

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 04:50 PM

Again, tell it to Rangel. He's your guy, not mine.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 03:46 PM

Because the middle and upper classes can get deferrments...for education for one. The poor can't afford education.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Cluin
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 03:37 PM

If the draft comes in they'll be thinning out the slums and trailer parks first. Always the way.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 03:31 PM

This is a curious thing. Reinstatement of the draft is a Democrat proposal. Some (from the right) might cynically......might, nothing.....some from the right HAVE said that it is proposed for the sake of bringing a quick end to the war.

The assumption -- by the likes of Charles Rangel, the bill's proposer -- is that the military is made up entirely of poor people who have no other employment options and are thus trapped into a life in the military.

He has proposed the draft in order to force more middle class sons and daughters into the war, and thus hasten its end. His reasoning being that middle class people don't care if poor people are killed in war, but they will care if it's their own kids.

In reality, it's not a bad proposal. And my leftist friend (professor at Notre Dame) has convinced this righty that a draft is the most moral way to man a military.

Of course, if you are naive enough to think that there is no need for a military at all, well, take that up with Rangel. He's your guy.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 03:15 PM

Somebody...CNN? is running a poll For or Agin. I voted Agin, and so did 65% of the other people voting.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:51 PM

With thanks to Amergin for posting this in another thread a ways back: draft registration.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:37 PM

Is anyone else perturbed at our government's response when there is a new disaster, such as floods and the Minnesota bridge, et al? The government says they're going to fix it, they'll get right on it... The way they got on New Orleans?

I think I'd be less than comforted by their pieties.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:29 PM

um.

What does having a draft have to do with health care, social services, or rebuilding New Orleans or our crumbling infrastructure?

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:03 PM

Too many subversive stuff been goin down.

Avert the draft.

Advert nefarious plans for the draft

Convert the money to health care, social services, re-building New Orleans, re-building our crumbling infrastructure.

It's too drafty in here.

Do you get my drift?

Holla out if you got something to say.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: artbrooks
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 02:03 PM

Weatherstripping on doors is always good, but sometimes the best way to avert a draft is by making (or buying) a cloth tube stuffed with rags to put in front of (or under) the door.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:58 PM

And furthermore, how 'bout convert the plans for a draft to plans to help the middle class and poor in the USA.

Not to mention helping rebuild New Orleans into more than a rich folks resort.

Subject: RE: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:55 PM

And also, advert plans for a draft.
[as a means of stopping it]

There's more rumors of war.

Where they gonna get folks to fight their wars?

Robots?

Now that's a scary thought.

Subject: BS: Avert The Draft
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Aug 07 - 01:51 PM

Hell no! We won't go.

I'm just sayin.