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Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award

DannyC 14 Sep 07 - 09:47 AM
Fred McCormick 14 Sep 07 - 11:26 AM
DannyC 14 Sep 07 - 12:17 PM
GUEST 14 Sep 07 - 12:24 PM
Fred McCormick 14 Sep 07 - 12:34 PM
Kevin Sheils 15 Sep 07 - 03:36 AM
GUEST,Jim Carroll 15 Sep 07 - 02:51 PM
DannyC 16 Sep 07 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,EPD 20 Sep 07 - 07:15 PM
GUEST, R WHITE 27 Jul 15 - 12:18 PM
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Subject: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: DannyC
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 09:47 AM

I am seeking biographical information about the man mentioned above, Sean O'Boyle. (I struck out here and on google.) Thanks, Danny


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 11:26 AM

Not a lot has been published about the man, although his book, The Irish Song Tradition, has brief biog on the back cover. Gilbert Dalton, 1976. ISBN 0905 17313.

There's also a short note in The Hanbook of Irish Traditional Music. Cork UP. ISBN 1 85918 148 1.

Off the top of my head I can't think of anything else in book form, which doesn't necessarily say there isn't anything. I just doubt you'd come across anything substantial.

Your best bet would be to contact Taisce Cheol Dúchais Éireann(The Irish Traditional Music Archive) in Dublin and see whether anyone has ever written a magazine article on him. Their website is http://www.itma.ie/ but you would be advised to either write or call in. Their email address sends out automated replies only, presumably to obviate timewasting enquiries of the "Where can I find the words to the Wild Rover" type.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: DannyC
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 12:17 PM

Thank you Fred


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 12:24 PM

There's a paragraph about him in Fintan Vallely's "Companion to Irish Traditional Music" p269.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 12:34 PM

Sorry, I should have said Companion, not Handbook. In fact what I said was Hanbook. Bloody keyboard.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Awa
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 15 Sep 07 - 03:36 AM

He was a schoolteacher in Northern Ireland, as well as being a folksong collector who contributed to the Folksongs of Britain Caedmon LPs (Later released on Topic) and taught a friend of mine way, way back IIRC.

Unfortunately the friend is not easily contactable at present to get more info but as soon as I'm able (and if it adds anything to what doesn't get here) I'll try to get what I can.

There wsa a snippet of him speaking on one of Reg Hall's Traditional Music Hour shows on Resonance Radio here in London a year or so back.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Awa
From: GUEST,Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Sep 07 - 02:51 PM

Danny
As Kevin said, he contributed to the FSB set; he was working as a collector on the BBC project in the early fifties.
His father Charles was one of the singers recorded at the time; the BBC index reads;
"Aged 74 and in failing health at time of recording; he died shortly after.   Father of Sean O'Boyle, who worked as folk song collector for the BBC in Northern Ireland 1952-5. Charles inherited much of his singing from his mother, who was born in Donaghadee, Co. Down where there is a strong Scots tradition, but she lived most of her life in Belfast. He was a teacher, but from 1914-20 (interrupted by the war) he studied and worked in Cork with Hardebeck the musician and collector.   He became secretary to Hardebeck who was. blind, and made musical and Gaelic transcriptions and translations for him - his work is acknowledged by Hardebeck in the preface to Pt. III of Gems of Melody. One of his songs: 'Sweet William's Ghost', transcribed from the BBC recording, is printed in JEFDSS 1956.
Section 1.
B for Barney; Billy Gillaspie; Cross of Armagh: 18407; Father Tom O'Neill: 18406; Gipsy laddie (2): 16407; Greenwood Laddie (1): 16404; Hares on the- mountains (3); I wish 1 was in America; Prince Charlie Stuart (1); Santaina (1): 16405; Sixteenth of March; 18407; Suit of Green: 18405: Sweet William's Ghost: 18404.
Section 2.   
Cá raibh tú ar feadh an Lae? 18404".
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: DannyC
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 09:08 AM

Kevin/Jim,

Thank you very much.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: GUEST,EPD
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 07:15 PM

Sean O'Boyle was a teacher at St Patrick's College Armagh, N Ireland up to the late 60's/70.(now called St Patrick's Grammar School). If you go on their website they have a email address and would be worth contacting. The present Principal is a past pupil and would certainly have known him and probably has fanily contact details. I have very fond memories of myself. Lovely warm man, old school scholar as well as teacher. Good Luck
Eamonn


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: GUEST, R WHITE
Date: 27 Jul 15 - 12:18 PM

I was on the staff of St. Patrick's college, started there in 1976. Sean did some part-time teaching for a short while after that. I remember him well, took him to a song event in Magee College , Derry, unsure of the year. He and Jerry Hicks were most influential re Irish language, song, cultural events.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Sean O'Boyle Cultural Traditions Award
From: GUEST,John Moulden
Date: 27 Jul 15 - 04:54 PM

One of his sons, Seán Óg lived in Dublin, another, Manus lectured in Aberdeen and Cathal lives in Newcastle Co. Down but I've not met any of them recently.


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