BS: Jacqui's operation

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: My guru always said
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 07:07 AM

Missed all this till now but sending positive thoughts for a good recovery Jacqui! Take the good advice & store up the belly laughs for a few weeks. Oh, and don't drink coffee while you're reading this thread *grin*
Love & Hugs,
Hil

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 09:33 PM

Ahhhhhh......That's sweet Jacqui......***sigh***........Ya' know, Karen says the same about me.....uh.......Wait...I think she says aromatic instead..........Never mind..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: jacqui.c
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 09:09 PM

Thanks Les - I'd forgotten that! See you in December!

Spaw - he's one of the most romantic men I know, just not in the usual way.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 03:59 PM

Yeeees, Spaw. True romance is not dead! Just in poor shape.

I hope you saved all those love emails, Jac, for posteriority.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Rasener
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 02:47 PM

Jacqui
I am so glad you are on the mend. Wont be long before you are back to this. You will need to scroll down a bit to see what I mean :-)

Jacqui at her best

Take care.
Les

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 12:56 PM

Aw gee Jacqui.......What a lovely tale. Kendall is really the romantic isn't he?

LMAO

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: jacqui.c
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 12:44 PM

A few years back, after my hysterectomy, I was constipated for a couple of days and waiting for my daughter to get a scrip for a suppository from the GP to deal with it.

I finally got too desperate to go and, necessity being the mother of invention, started trying to think about what might do the same job in the absence of the suppositories. Cod liver oil capsules work amazingly well! The gelatine capsules melt with body heat and then the oil just greases the - well, you know. Saved me the cost of the prescription and added another little bit of useful info that has been passed on to others since.

Kendall had the same problem a bit later and I told him what had worked - at this time we were separated by the Big Pond. He seemed a little doubtful about it but the next morning, at work, I got an email which said "I tried the cod liver oil at nine o'clock last night. At eleven o'clock I had a major bowel movement. I should have got out of bed first." Total collapse of me and my workmates wondering what was making me laugh so much.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 12:27 PM

Hmmmm...I guess I should consider myself VERY lucky, in that almost all meds I have even taken seem to work on me just as they are supposed to.

I was VERY glad to have Vicodin when I had a pinched nerve in my neck....it simply allowed me to stop hurting and get to sleep. It did NOT cause constipation...if anything, a bit the opposite.
I can take sulpha, any antibiotic they have, use any kind of adhesive tape, and eat any kind of food which *I* care about. I don't even suffer from pollen allergies!

I have only one known allergy, and that IS a nuisance...to most types of Rosewood dust. So, as a woodworker, I can't mess with Cocobolo.

I'm beginning to wonder what the relationship is of all these allergies people seem to have is to modern life & the environment. It 'feels' like there are way more than there used to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 12:08 PM

Oh, geez, Becca! I called Little Neophyte, who happens to be a nutritionist. Very little food was appetizing at the time, but I was able to get down a smoothie for breakfast every day. She advised me to add dried figs, not the dark kind, to it and voila! Now, more than two years later, I have found fish oil capsules would have worked, too!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Becca72
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 11:26 AM

The constipation isn't just a problem of Vicodin, but almost all pain meds. Just like certain meds will give a lot of women yeast infections (I know, gross).
I can relate, kat. I was on Vicodin for a herniated disc, barely able to walk, let alone "strain" and constipated all at the same time. And then the doctor tells me if I shit my pants to call 911. I know it has something to do with the disc material shifting around and compressing things and the bad stuff that results from that, but at first I thought that was actually going to happen. I was afraid to leave the bathroom!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 10:50 AM

It took a few years and many bouts with hives or worse for my docs to finally put a big RED label on the front of my chart that says "High Sensitivity to drugs!"

I also have to use paper tape. All sulfa-based drugs make me itch like crazy, so they had to get creative when finding something for high blood pressure as the favs. all have some sulfa derivative. So, I am on "edecrin" aka ethacrynic acid. Now, the docs call me, I kid you not, to find out where I get mine as there is only one pharmacy that still carries it, it is such an old drug, and the docs need it for other patients!

I got dizzy and stuff on vicodin but what they didn't warn me about was getting constipated from it! Just try that after your chest has been cracked open and they've sent you home. Afraid to strain thinking your staples might pop out, never mind the pain it caused! Ugh. I cannot believe folks willingly look for this drug to use for pleasure!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 10:19 AM

An allergic reaction to adhesive plasters must be common as I have it too. My physio noticed it years ago when she strapped my ankle & she told me to always inform doctors in future. The remedy is to use Micropore tape underneath, but maybe this is something only physios know!

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 08:49 AM

Make him sleep outside? Kendall, Seamus, or both?

My wife's allergic to adhesive and she gets VERY VERY vocal about it. So much so that it's easier to use something else, so the medicos do.

She might have only one functioning vocal cord and not be able to yell, but she can still strip paint right off the wall when she wants to. So rather than repaint....

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 06:18 AM

I heard someone feeds Seamus liverwurst!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: kendall
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 07:23 PM

Good for you Ebbie!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 06:39 PM

"...think you are being dramatic when you tell them what allergies and intolerances you have and what various medications do to you." Jacqui

I know what you mean, Jacqui. When I was being scheduled for a hernia repair I told the surgeon that 30 years before I'd had the same hernia done and that I was allergic to each of the pain meds they gave me; I told him they ended up giving me only tylenol.

The surgeon smiled. Medications are SO much better now, she said.

Right. I was supposed to be in just overnight- ended up being in there three days because everything they gave me I reacted badly to.

At one point, the surgeon said in a kind of miffed tone, Well, obviously you aren't used to narcotics.

Told her that if I were, I'd have a different kind of problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 06:27 PM

I on the other hand am having a very difficult time with Jacqui's recovery. Seamus is farting non-stop. The cats all left. I am considering letting him sleep outside tonight. What the hell did you feed him, KENDALL?

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 04:58 PM

Whoa! Makes my reactions seem mild.

It's interesting to note how the medicos seem to think that you are being dramatic when you tell them what allergies and intolerances you have and what various medications do to you.

I got their attention a bit when the large surgical dressing was taken off and the skin had blistered where the adhesive had been. Likewise when I broke out in hives about half an hour after eating one small piece of stewed tomato - luckily that one small piece was all that my stomach would let me have.

They just want to keep feeding pain meds, even though I was telling them that I really didn't have much pain, more discomfort from the fact that the girdle they used hadn't really been placed well.

I had a low resting pulse rate, good low blood pressure, almost in the athlete's class and high oxygen sats. Surely that should be telling them that what I am doing with my system is working, whatever their own theories might be.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 03:48 PM

Hangover from Versed? Minor problem Maggie.....Try this.

In '99 I was having some pain and to check it out I was admitted to a hospital. I had already had several heart surgeries at that point, but oddly enough had never been exposed to Versed which anymore is the drug of choice for pain. All I remember was going to a room. As folks who were on Mudcat back then will recall, the next thing I knew, 6 days had passed and I woke up in a different hospital on a vent after having an aortic dissecting aneurysm. That's what killed John Ritter. Luckily mine "only" ran from the femoral arteries to the aortic arch stopping 2 inches short of the heart.....Ritter's didn't. Its non repairable and non operable.

What had been the acute cause of this was skyrocketing blood pressure from the Versed. Also, the Versed had the exact opposite of the "desired effect." After the first shot I didn't become calm with less pain, I became agitated and restless.....so they gave me more! My vital signs went crazy and I became extremely violent and combative to the point of being restrained. One Doc came out and told Karen what was going on and asked if I were a violent person. Several other friends had come to the hospital and along with Karen assured him I was not. I was Life Flighted to a major trauma center in Columbus (where Karen now works oddly enough) and woke up wondering what the hell and where the hell and why was on on a damned Vent!

Outside of the fact I lived and am here with my torn up aorta to tell the tale, the best thing to happen was the effect it had on Mudcat. May of '99 we were a community but still mostly new to each other and the net. Odd though it may seem, my problems were a turning point of sorts where the group came together forming with the camaraderie which we all have enjoyed over the years.   I'm not taking credit for that obviously, I was just the catalytic agent, but it was a huge step in the development of this joint.

Versed? Yeah......I'd have settled for a hangover(;<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 03:11 PM

There are a number of those medications members of our family don't tolerate, so we're careful in approaching all of them. The surgery I mentioned earlier, my daughter got hives from the hydrocodone. She stuck with strong doses of ibuprophen after that and was fine.

I wouldn't let them give her Versed before that or the dental surgery she had later. It gives me a hangover like nothing else. Why test it on her to see if she's laid equally low, if we can avoid it?

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 02:38 PM

Jacqui, Vicodin is a BIG no no for me. I literally didn't know up from down. Luckily I was in bed and the nurse laid me down and told me to go to sleep. Which I did, instantly, in the middle of the day.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 10:34 AM

LOL - even with the staples!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: kendall
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 08:08 AM

Bossy? Assertive? Hey Mate, she doesn't need any suggestions in that area.
She read "Uncle Tom's Cabin" and she thought Simon LaGree was the hero!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: gnu
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 04:36 AM

Marshall Dodge... Hehehehehe!!! Bob Saget... no comment.

Close call, Jac! You have to learn to be more assertive. Bossy, even, if necessary.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Nancy King
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 08:13 PM

Hey Jacqui! Glad to hear you're mending at home and all seems to be going as well as can be expected. Except for Seamus' sympathy pains, of course. And all the crap you and Kendall have to put up with from Spaw...

Anyhow, I'm glad I was able to see you guys at the lobster boil! And looking forward to the Getaway!

Love to both of you,
Nancy

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: kendall
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 07:52 PM

That was totally devoid of any redeeming value at all. Pathetic.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 06:46 PM

I can't even get past the idea of him with a "gentle wit," let alone musical ability!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 06:14 PM

certainly, no one could give Bob Saget lectures about good taste.

Can you imagine Andrew Dice Clay with gentle wit and some musical ability?

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 05:51 PM

Here's a song that Bob Saget sings on his HBO special which is rumored to have been written by Kendall..............BTW, if you don't have a totally puerile and perverted sense of humor, don't click and in any case, I'm 58 so don't give me lectures about good taste.

Bob Saget, Folksinger


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: GUEST,Dan's other computer
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:35 PM

Somehow I missed this whole thread. Jacqui, you get better quickly, y'hear?

And Kiran sends his best to Nanny Jacqui. Mind you, his best at the moment is an indistinct "Aaaaahweeeeeeaaaaaa" and some bubbles, but we know what he means.

Dan Schatz

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:25 PM

Seamus coughed up his cookies at the beach today - sympathy pains, I think. Poor baby can't understand why he can't climb in Mother's lap.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:58 PM

Well, at least ya won't get foot and mouth disease doing it, Kendall!

Jacqui, I am come late to this...outta range for a few days. Glad to hear it went well and that you are home. There is nothing quite like getting home from the hospital, eh? That alone makes a person feel better, at least for a little bit. Take care and keep doing what you are told.:-)

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: kendall
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:46 PM

Jacqui my dear, I knew exactly what you meant, I was just messing with you.

This reminds me of a story my old friend, Marshall Dodge told. An old man was talking about his situation, and he said, concerning his wife, "I've waited on her hand and foot for 50 years. I wish she'd get well, or something."

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 02:23 PM

I'm back in bed and on a liquid diet right now - reaction to Vicodin. Should have known better than to let them talk me into anything stronger than Tylenol (paracetamol). The medicos think I'm just trying to be tough when I say that I try to avoid drugs of any kind but it ain't fun when you get to the point of feeling you're going to throw up with staples in a stomach wound!

Ah well, lots of rest today and I'll hopefully feel stronger tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 11:30 AM

My daughter had surgery in May, requiring three days in the hospital. The process, whether you're going through it or watching it, is interesting to watch (in hindsight!) You do feel like death warmed over for the first couple of days, and that white button is so helpful. But she would have stayed in bed, keeping herself at that level of discomfort, if I hadn't insisted that she get up and walk around the halls a little that second evening, and the third day we had her doing laps. With each walk I could see the anesthesia clearing out a little more. (She had her spleen removed, due to spherocytosis, and was under similar instructions not to lift ANYTHING for several weeks). The folks down at her summer job at Dairy Queen were so good--she had the laparoscopic surgery on a Monday and was back at work on Saturday. They had her handle cash only, not even lifting food to hand it over the counter.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 09:17 AM

I got it too, but I know what I meant!

Now he'll get all embarrassed, but Kendall is looking after me way beyond the call of duty. I'm very weak, dizzy and slightly nauseous from the painkillers (that's why I hate them so much) and can do very little without assistance. He's waiting on me hand a foot (and everywhere in between as well). Mary's coming in this morning to give him a break so that will help.

Right now I'm off for another rest - too much energy being used right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: maeve
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 08:04 AM

Indeed, SRS, in addition, others of us would prefer to stay out of the cellar.

maeve ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:33 AM

Salacious   

ETYMOLOGY: 17c: from Latin salax fond of leaping, from salire to leap.

Made me chuckle anyway!

G

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 12:02 AM

Kendall,

I thought more of us would "get it".

Some of us know better than to encourage that kind of thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Amos
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 10:39 PM

Now ladies, no need to fight over her. We have plenty of wide sandy beaches here in Southern California.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 10:23 PM

I thought it was funny too, Kendall!!!! And I won't be hurt for not being recruited on the deputy crew for keeping Jackie slowed down and quiet -- no , sniff, sniff, sniff - I won't be hurt.........!

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 08:13 PM

Just as long as you make sure Kendall is keeping to his health regime too!

Kitty

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 07:59 PM

I got it, Captain. Solicitous/salacious.

In Kendall's defense - he cooks, he cleans, he rebuilds kitchens. And he wants Jacqui healthy ASAP. Jacqui is the one who will need a kick in the pants to observe the LETTER OF THE LAW. Kendall has recruited Tami and me as deputies to oversee her lying in.I am looking forward to telling what to do and when and how hee hee hee.

Sit! Lie DOWN! Roll over! We have practicing on Seamus.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Amos
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 07:53 PM

Hey, Jacqui, baby!! When you're all fixed up, come out to California and we can go walking on the beach in the moonlight!!! Woddya say? Bring Seamus, he'll enjoy it. ... oh, and give my regards to that wonderful feller, Kendall...


;>)



A

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: kendall
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 07:50 PM

Jeri, I thought more of us would "get it".

Spaw, the dog is worse than me.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 07:43 PM

Glad to see yer back home, Jacqui... I think the Capt'n was gettin' a tad on the cranky side...

Awww, jus' funnin'... He's always sweet as pie, right???

Right???....

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 07:18 PM

I am overjoyed that you're home Jacco, but when you wrote:

"I had to share a room last night with an elderly lady who.........had a lovely bout of the runs on a comode about five feet away from me (sound effects included) about twenty minutes before lunch! I am SO glad to be home!"

Well, I tell ya', I was a bit surprised. I'd have thought you'd be used to that after living with Kendall. And have I mentioned how much fun I'm having ragging his ass on this thread?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Hawker
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 07:04 PM

WB Jacqui, glad to hear you are upright again! DO AS YOU ARE TOLD by the meds and boss everyone else about while you can get away with it!
{{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}} coming from Cornwall for a speedy recovery.
Love, Lucy

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: gnu
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 06:24 PM

Glad you are home safe and sound and that all is well and good. Make sure you take care to keep it that way.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacqui's operation
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Sep 07 - 05:51 PM

Kendall, that was funny. Probably true (what do I know), but funny. You'll probably have to stay that way for a bit.

Jacqui, you aren't an 'invalid'. Think like royalty. Hold court in your bedroom, propped up with pillows. Give a lot of orders, including some ridiculous ones. You're going to be obscenely healthy after this, so milk your current state for all it's worth.

And welcome home!