BS: Defenestration: pros and cons

Subject: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM

On the good side (if not the upside), it's fast. On the downside, the defenestratee might land on some innocent passerby. It's been known to happen. I sure wouldn't want that.

Discuss the pros and cons as you see it.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 10:40 PM

Chopping down all those trees...I dunno, Chongo. Trees are good and use up the CO2 that is causing Global Worming.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 10:42 PM

We should all get defenestrated at some point.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 10:55 PM

Are you ticked off at someone again, little buddy? Those gorillas getting out of line?

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Dead Horse
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 11:06 PM

Folks who live in defenestrated houses can throw as many damn stones as they like !

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 11:18 PM

I can't say at the moment, but I'll Czech it out.

(!!)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: M.Ted
Date: 15 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM

The problem with defenestration is that, at some point, someone needs to be fenestrated. You haven't been reading about Ermintrude Inch, by any chance?

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 12:01 AM

Defenestration pros are people who get paid to defenestrate. They are usually very good at defenestrating and, of equal importance, good at not getting caught in the act of defenestration.

If, however, a defenestration pro does get caught and sent to prison, he then becomes a defenestration con.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 12:16 AM

Defenestration, in and of itself, has its pros and cons - depending upon the identity of the defenestratee, the altitudinal relationship between the defenestration site and the ground, and the condition of the point located at the terminus of the defenestration vector. For example, defenestration from a basement window will probably not meet the basic intent of the defenestrator(s).   Likewise, if the defenestration vector ends in a large pool of lime jello the overall results are likely to be unsatisfactory, irregardless of the presence or absence of banana slices.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 12:52 AM

Defenestration, being the act of tossing someone out of the window, was first practiced when a father tossed his lunch and his daughter out of the window in Prague. Having great difficulty trying to retrieve her back the same way she went, he coined the phrase about how difficult it was to raise a daughter!

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Billy Weeks
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 04:54 AM

I had my fenestrates surgically removed and have suffered panes ever since.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: gnu
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 05:12 AM

Some of you are clearly out the window.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: skipy
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 05:59 AM

From Wikipedia:-
Defenestration were a UK heavy metal band from 1999 to 2004, based in the Northamptonshire town of Kettering.

Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: skipy
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 06:07 AM

Closing down my computer now, must get out of windows!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Leadfingers
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:12 AM

Dave - You beat me to it - I was going to ask wether any one had asked Bill Gates' opinion

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: skipy
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:29 AM

LOL
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:37 AM

We have no panes, dear Mother, now . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Amos
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:41 AM

Defenestration can be sloppily done, such as using the same window for two consecutive instances. This leaves the second defenestree in the enviable position of feeling no pane.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Grab
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:41 AM

It's always a problem, shifting bracken out of the corners of your garden when it's established - oh wait, that'd be defernestration...

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 08:17 AM

Grab, let us have no thread spread!!

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 08:43 AM

Ermintrude make a great outboard engine.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 08:55 AM

Sorry, I was thinking of deforestation. But the environmental consequences of defenestration could also be dire. How would we see outside if all of our windows were taken away? More importantly, where would we store them and would they leak into the water supply? Would the off-gassing destroy the Earth's protective layer of tin argide (SnAr2), which prevents passing aliens from peeking in at us while we're dressing or in the shower or picking our noses?

I need a comprehensive Environmental Impact Statement!

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Grab
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 09:45 AM

For the blokes in Prague heading out the window, I imagine the environmental impact 20 feet below was what worried them too!

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 11:57 AM

LOL! By God...some great puns here. Nice work, people. I'm still wondering who Chongo is ticked off at this time.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 12:18 PM

Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia
Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia

Wind it up and pull the rope, Halleluia
Putt-putt, die and pull again, Halleluia

Hold the choke when it's chilly and cold, Halleluia
Back the trottle when the spark takes hold, Halleluia

Grab the handle, steer from the dock, Halleluia
Blessed days off of the clock, Halleluia

Fishing's great there in the cove, Halleluia
Bamboo bent as the bobber dove, Halleluia

12 inch striper grabbed in the net, Halleluia
Pan-fried eatin' is good, you bet! Halleluia

Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia
Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 12:19 PM

Lovely...

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: TheSnail
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 12:22 PM

Grab

I imagine the environmental impact 20 feet below was what worried them too!

Well, the paticipants in the Second Defenestration of Prague landed in a pile of horse shit and survived. Very environmentally friendly.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 01:08 PM

From my notebook of song sheets:

A Bonnie, Wee Lassie

A bonnie, wee lassie whose name it was Nell
Lived in the house where her grandmother dwell.
The house it was small and the windows no less;
Having four panes, one needed a glass in that
CHO:
Hole in the window, that nice little window,
That cute little window where grandmother dwell.

"Oh, Johnnie, dear Johnnie, d'you think it amiss
E're going home just to give me one kiss?"
"Oh, that I will, Nellie!" he answered her true.
And to her surprise, he poked his head through that
CHO:
Hole in the window, that nice little window,
That cute little window where grandmother dwell.

Well, he gave her three kisses and great was the smack;
But to his surprise, he couldn't get his head back through that
CHO:
Hole in the window, that cute little window,
That cute little window where grandmother dwell.

Well, he ripped and he tore and he cussed and he swore.
Grandma heard the racket and jumped to the floor.
She picked up the poker and gave him a whack!
Another like that would have broken his back
CHO: With his head in the window, that cute little window,
That sweet little window where grandmother dwell.

Well, she lifted the ladle from out of the pot.
No batter e're took the beating he got!
He ran down the road with might and with main
Whilst 'round his shoulders, the sash and the frame of that
CHO:
Nice little window, that cute little window,
That sweet little window where grandmother dwell.

Learned in the early 1950s from The Burl Ives Song Book, Ballantine Books, 1953.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 01:13 PM

Hmm! Just noticed in re-reading the above, I got some of my "cutes" and "sweets" mixed up. I gotta fix the song sheet. In the meantime, just ad lib. But stay away from the windows!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Amos
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 02:17 PM

Thanks, Don...I knew that song by heart long ago and had completely forgot it!!!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 02:27 PM

I LOVED that song! Thanks, Don! We had a bunch of those Burl Ives records when I was a kid, and that one was my favorite.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 02:28 PM

Windows Post
to the tune of "Whipping Post" by the Allman Brothers

System went down
Fileserver too
I don't know why I let windows make me a fool
It took all my memory
Crashed my new box
Now its down and my programs won't run,
this has been so much fun.
Sometimes I feel like crying in a Usenet post
Good Lord I lost all my files.
Tech Support tells me
I've been such a fool
Running more than one program at once
Now my computer's FU.
I'll reinstall tomorrow.
Bill Gates what have you done?
Nothing seems to change.
The errors are the same.
My programs won't run.
Sometimes I feel like crying in a Usenet post
Good Lord I lost all my files.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 04:22 PM

AHA! I was wondering how long it would be before Microsoft Windows started taking a few shots. Good one!

Momentary thread drift:

For a kind of a ditzy little ditty, A Bonnie Wee Lassie has stood me in good stead during the past couple of weeks.

A week ago Sunday, Bob Nelson (Deckman) and I were at a gathering of friends, and after dinner the guitars came out and we did a bit of singing. Sometimes we play a little game of naming a sort of off-the-wall subject, and then seeing if we can come up with a song that fits. The son of the hostess tossed out the subject "big ears." After some thought, Bob said, "I got nuthin'!" I was about to pass also, then suddenly had an inspiration. I said, "This song doesn't mention ears, but it may very well be the cause of this fellow's problem." Then I sang A Bonnie Wee Lassie. Bob and the others cracked up, and the hostess's son allowed as how it fit the category.

Then this Sunday (Oct. 14th), at Bob's and my reunion concert (CLICKY), I did it again. It always goes over well.

And then here on this thread, where, in a weird sort of way, it seems to fit yet again. It's a cute song—not necessarily the song I want to be best known for—but it seems to work.

Now, back to our regular broadcast.

(Clinging fiercely to an inside wall!!)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 04:28 PM

shucks, I've been singing that song for 45 years. It's one of the few I can't forget. (Got it off the Burl Ives LP, which I still own)

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 06:24 PM

Quasimodo had the same problem, according to Les B.

"Quasimodo and the bishop fought a duel in the belfry,
It was bats at twenty nine paces,
At the third pace the bishop fell out of the window,
'Cos belfries are very small places".

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 06:58 PM

Wikipedia also records that the defenestrees of 1618 survived because they landed on a pile of horse manure..... also of course, this was apparently a trigger for the 30 years war, not sure whether that was a pro or a con?

Kitty

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 07:37 PM

Horse Puckey!

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 10:52 PM

I will have to read the thread later, but here's what I think:

If you get it done to your dog I'd say that's OK. Getting it done to yourself is definitely a bad idea. We defenestrated some young bulls, and despite the procedure being quite fast, it's also painful and shocking for the animal. To reiterate: Just say no to defenestration.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 11:03 PM

. . . or if you're real polite, "No, thank you."

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Joe_F
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 11:11 PM

ObSongs:

Old Mother Hubbard went to her cupboard
To get her poor dog a bone,
But when she got there, the cupboard was bare,
So she threw it out the window,
The window, the window, the second-story window,
But when she got there, etc.

Most of Mother Goose can be enlivened in that way.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Dead Horse
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 11:12 PM

Herga Kitty,
Trigger, as we all know very well, was Roy Rogers horse.
His manure couldnt possibly have travelled back thru time and space to Prague 1618 !

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Gurney
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 11:42 PM

Never happened to me, but it would be a con if it did.


I JUMPED out of a window once. That was a con.



Long time ago, and in another country. The wench may well BE dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Oct 07 - 11:49 PM

Well, Peace, I suppose having something like that done to one would tend to reduce one's window of opportunity. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Peace
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 12:32 AM

Darned right, Don.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 09:28 AM

In general, defenstration is one of the few murder styles where you don't bring your own weapon to the meeting. Of course, if you do bring your window, you might find it difficult to remove the victim from the room.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: artbrooks
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 09:40 AM

Oh no...not true at all. Removing the victim from the room is essentially a given in defenestration. It is the 500-year-old manure that is optional.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 10:45 AM

Good defenestrations make for good neighbors.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 11:31 AM

I was at a defenestration against the Vietnam War where they used tear gas.

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 11:34 AM

Rap said Sorry, I was thinking of deforestation. But the environmental consequences of defenestration could also be dire.

Peace said If you get it done to your dog I'd say that's OK. Getting it done to yourself is definitely a bad idea. We defenestrated some young bulls . . .

A window on my past:

These semantic misprisions remind me of a time in my relatively-well-spent youth when I did an unkind thing to a very annoying young man (who in about 1975 in a Forest Service fire-fighting job kept insisting that he should be paid more, not less, than I in the job we were hired for because he was male, regardless of my superior education and experience). Our crew went out for dinner at a local restaurant and the place was packed with locals. He started in on his complaint about my pay, and I cut him off. As he paused to put a forkful of food into his mouth, I politely asked "Jim, do you masticate?"

"What!?? You're asking me something like that HERE?!!"

"It means 'to chew,' Jim," was my answer back.

"DAMN YOU!!!" and he shoved his way out of our booth and stomped out of the restaurant, and the whole place went up in a roar of laughter. He didn't bother me again after that, but I've always felt a little guilty about doing that do him.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Oct 07 - 01:41 PM

...you should have asked him if he gesticulated....ot matriculated.