Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Peace Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:10 PM Beautiful piece of work, Rapaire. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:08 PM Man, if anyone had thought to publish that varmint, he'd a-been FAMOUS!! A |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 25 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM Amos, they were both written by my old buddy, Billy Bob Shakespeare. He was drunk at the time, just swiggin' down the Old Milwaukee and tossin' the empty cans into his pickup. Then he decided to shoot tin cans, grabbed the .30-30 out of his gun rack and started blazin' away. Shot up six empty cans, the sides of the pickup, both back tires, and his gas tank before he tossed his cookies and passed out. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:31 PM Actually, Rapaire is being modest. Last time he posted that on the MOAB thread he admitted, though, that it was his own work!! Can you believe that!!!! A |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:10 PM Not poems, but poetic: Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. --------- I have of late,—but wherefore I know not,—lost all my mirth, forgone all custom of exercises; and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form, in moving, how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world! the paragon of animals! And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? man delights not me; no, nor woman neither, though, by your smiling, you seem to say so. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rowan Date: 25 Oct 07 - 06:23 PM While working, often alone and well away from civilisation in some of the more remote parts of Oz, I've often contemplated these two. Independence Nancy Cato I will think of the leech-gatherer on the lonely moor. — Wordsworth How the red road stretched before us, mile on mile narrowing into the distance, straight as though ruled on yellow paper, away to the lilac hills low on the horizon. Above them the storm-clouds piled in a sky blue as though bruised, yet all ahead was glowing in an unearthly wash of light — dry roly-poly and saltbush lit to beauty, the sky a menace, but the wide plains bright. And there in that lonely place an ancient swagman, traveller, bagman, sundowner, what you will — his rolled-up blankets slung aslant his shoulders, billy dangling, his back to the line of hills and the coming storm; as mysterious in that place (with his hat set straight and his grey beard blowing) as a small ship glimpsed a moment far from land. Where did he come from? Where could he be going? I shall never know, for we had to race the rain that turns the black soil plains to a gluey mud bogging to the axles. Only a wave of the hand, but still the imagination glows, the blood stirs at the memory of that symbolic stranger glimpsed in a moment of vision, and swiftly gone: Man and his independent spirit, alone on the vast plains, with night and rain coming on. and The dead swagman Nancy Cato His rusted billy left beside the tree; under a root, most carefully tucked away, his steel-rimmed glasses folded in their case of mildewed purple velvet; there he lies in the sunny afternoon, and takes his ease, curled like a possum within the hollow trunk. He came one winter evening when the tree hunched its broad back against the rain, and made his camp, and slept, and did not wake again. Now white-ants make a home within his skull: his old friend Fire has walked across the hill and blackened the old tree and the old man and buried him half in ashes, where he lay. It might be called a lonely death. The tree led its own alien life beneath the sun, yet both belonged to the Bush, and now are one: the roots and bones lie close among the soil, and he ascends in leaves towards the sky. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Amos Date: 25 Oct 07 - 01:30 PM Because I could not stop for Death, He kindly stopped for me; The carriage held but just ourselves And Immortality. We slowly drove, he knew no haste, And I had put away My labor, and my leisure too, For his civility. We passed the school, where children strove At recess, in the ring; We passed the fields of gazing grain, We passed the setting sun. Or rather, be passed us; The dews grew quivering and chill, For only gossamer my gown, My tippet only tulle. We paused before house that seemed A swelling of the ground; The roof was scarcely visible, The cornice but a mound. Since then 'tis centuries, and yet each Feels shorter than the day I first surmised the horses' heads Were toward eternity. Emily Dickinson |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 25 Oct 07 - 01:25 PM Having been called "a mercenary" and a "baby-killer" I've always liked this poem by A. E. Housman: Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries These, in the day when heaven was falling, The hour when earth's foundations fled, Followed their mercenary calling, And took their wages, and are dead. Their shoulders held the sky suspended; They stood, and earth's foundations stay; What God abandoned, these defended, And saved the sum of things for pay. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: GUEST,Edgar A. Date: 25 Oct 07 - 12:11 PM No one has posted any of mine! Father My father knows the proper way The nation should be run; He tells us children every day Just what should now be done. He knows the way to fix the trusts, He has a simple plan; But if the furnace needs repairs, We have to hire a man. My father, in a day or two Could land big thieves in jail; There's nothing that he cannot do, He knows no word like "fail." "Our confidence" he would restore, Of that there is no doubt; But if there is a chair to mend, We have to send it out. All public questions that arise, He settles on the spot; He waits not till the tumult dies, But grabs it while it's hot. In matters of finance he can Tell Congress what to do; But, O, he finds it hard to meet His bills as they fall due. It almost makes him sick to read The things law-makers say; Why, father's just the man they need, He never goes astray. All wars he'd very quickly end, As fast as I can write it; But when a neighbor starts a fuss, 'Tis mother has to fight it. In conversation father can Do many wondrous things; He's built upon a wiser plan Than presidents or kings. He knows the ins and outs of each And every deep transaction; We look to him for theories, But look to ma for action. Edgar Albert Guest |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:14 AM The Logical Vegetarian G. K. Chesterton You will find me drinking rum, Like a sailor in a slum, You will find me drinking beer like a Bavarian. You will find me drinking gin In the lowest kind of inn, Because I am a rigid Vegetarian. So I cleared the inn of wine, And I tried to climb the sign, And I tried to hail the constable as "Marion." But he said I couldn't speak, And he bowled me to the Beak Because I was a Happy Vegetarian. Oh, I knew a Doctor Gluck, And his nose it had a hook, And his attitudes were anything but Aryan; So I gave him all the pork That I had, upon a fork; Because I am myself a Vegetarian. I am silent in the Club, I am silent in the pub, I am silent on a bally peak in Darien; For I stuff away for life Shoving peas in with a knife, Because I am at heart a Vegetarian. No more the milk of cows Shall pollute my private house Than the milk of the wild mares of the Barbarian; I will stick to port and sherry, For they are so very, very So very, very, very Vegetarian. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Peace Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:09 AM Great one here from Beardedbruce. Kisses are, but may be classified, according to intent. A kiss Upon the forehead is to seal devotion: A light touch on eyelids indicates a hope for peaceful dreams: On a cheek shows family affection. A kiss upon the lips has several meanings: One, a gentle brush of lips, offers concern, The other, a striving of the teeth and tongues, shows willingness and desire. To kiss the ears, the neck, or chin Might be to seek for trust, or just to taste the skin. A kiss upon the curve of breast, investigation: That upon the nipple often a plea, or hunger for attention. The kiss upon the stomach, back or arms is to arouse sensation. A kiss on back of hand, a greeting, or a subtle offer: Upon the palm, a gift of heart, to be tightly held, or quickly released. The kissing of the fingers, or the toes, shows a desire to please, or to be guided onward. The touch of lips to thighs, and variations, are preludes and will not be treated in this note. This is a partial catalog of meaning: Next week, we will discuss techniques. 23/2/81 |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: kendall Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:06 AM The night has a thousand eyes and the day but one. Yet, the light of the whole world dies with the setting sun. The mind has a thousand eyes, the heart but one, Yet, the light of a whole life dies when its love is done. Wm. Shakespere |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: maeve Date: 24 Oct 07 - 11:43 PM One of my favorites: Alchemy Because of the light of the moon, Silver is found on the moor; And because of the light of the sun, There is gold on the walls of the poor. Because of the light of the stars, Planets are found in the stream; And because of the light of your eyes, There is love in the depths of my dream. Francis Carlin (1881-1945) |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: GUEST,TIA Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:43 PM And Then... And then all that has divided us will merge And then compassion will be wedded to power And then softness will come to a world that is harsh and unkind And then both men and women will be gentle And then both women and men will be strong And then no person will be subject to another's will And then all will be rich and free and varied And then the greed of some will give way to the needs of many And then all will share equally in the Earth's abundance And then all will care for the sick and the weak and the old And then all will nourish the young And then will cherish life's creatures And then all will live in harmony with one another and the Earth And then everywhere will be called Eden once again. (Judy Chicago) |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:35 PM Dog Lawrence Ferlinghetti The dog trots freely in the street and sees reality and the things he sees are bigger than himself and the things he sees are his reality Drunks in doorways Moons on trees The dog trots freely thru the street and the things he sees are smaller than himself Fish on newsprint Ants in holes Chickens in Chinatown windows their heads a block away The dog trots freely in the street and the things he smells smell something like himself The dog trots freely in the street past puddles and babies cats and cigars poolrooms and policemen He doesn't hate cops He merely has no use for them and he goes past them and past the dead cows hung up whole in front of the San Francisco Meat Market He would rather eat a tender cow than a tough policeman though either might do And he goes past the Romeo Ravioli Factory and past Coit's Tower and past Congressman Doyle of the Unamerican Committee He's afraid of Coit's Tower but he's not afraid of Congressman Doyle although what he hears is very discouraging very depressing very absurd to a sad young dog like himself to a serious dog like himself But he has his own free world to live in His own fleas to eat He will not be muzzled Congressman Doyle is just another fire hydrant to him The dog trots freely in the street and has his own dog's life to live and to think about and to reflect upon touching and tasting and testing everything investigating everything without benefit of perjury a real realist with a real tale to tell and a real tail to tell it with a real live barking democratic dog engaged in real free enterprise with something to say about ontology something to say about reality and how to see it and how to hear it with his head cocked sideways at streetcorners as if he is just about to have his picture taken for Victor Records listening for His Master's Voice and looking like a living questionmark into the great gramophone of puzzling existence with its wondrous hollow horn which always seems just about to spout forth some Victorious answer to everything |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Emma B Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:54 PM If I was stranded on a desert island I'd need at least one of the quintesscently English poems of John Betjeman. I've no idea why, but this never ceases to ring a wry smile to my lips! "The Licorice Fields At Pontefract" In the licorice fields at Pontefract My love and I did meet And many a burdened licorice bush Was blooming round our feet; Red hair she had and golden skin, Her sulky lips were shaped for sin, Her sturdy legs were flannel-slack'd The strongest legs in Pontefract. The light and dangling licorice flowers Gave off the sweetest smells; From various black Victorian towers The Sunday evening bells Came pealing over dales and hills And tanneries and silent mills And lowly streets where country stops And little shuttered corner shops. She cast her blazing eyes on me And plucked a licorice leaf; I was her captive slave and she My red-haired robber chief. Oh love! for love I could not speak, It left me winded, wilting, weak, And held in brown arms strong and bare And wound with flaming ropes of hair. .......dedicated to Mrs Duck |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Azizi Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:58 AM EGO TRIPPING (THERE MUST BE A REASON WHY} [Nikki Giovanni] I was born in the congo I walked to the fertile crescent and built the sphinx I designed a pyramid so tough that a star that only glows every one hundred years falls into the center giving divine perfect light I am bad I sat on the throne drinking nectar with allah I got hot and sent an ice age to europe to cool my thirst My oldest daughter is nefertiti the tears from my birth pains created the nile I am a beautiful woman I gazed on the forest and burned out the sahara desert with a packet of goat's meat and a change of clothes I crossed it in two hours I am a gazelle so swift so swift you can't catch me For a birthday present when he was three I gave my son hannibal an elephant He gave me rome for mother's day My strength flows ever on My son noah built new/ark and I stood proudly at the helm as we sailed on a soft summer day I turned myself into myself and was jesus men intone my loving name All praises All praises I am the one who would save I sowed diamonds in my back yard My bowels deliver uranium the filings from my fingernails are semi-precious jewels On a trip north I caught a cold and blew My nose giving oil to the arab world I am so hip even my errors are correct I sailed west to reach east and had to round off the earth as I went The hair from my head thinned and gold was laid across three continents I am so perfect so divine so ethereal so surreal I cannot be comprehended except by my permission I mean...I...can fly like a bird in the sky... |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Emma B Date: 24 Oct 07 - 05:24 AM The wondeful thing about poetry is how it can assure us that others have experienced our pain and have survived to write about it, helps to put raw feelings into words and phrases and provide meaning in a world that may feel devoid of meaning. "Revisitation" by Anne Morrow Lindbergh ...Still I must make a faithful pilgrimage To those particular landmarks that were yours, Or intimately haunted by your sight; Not in the hope of finding you again, Not in obeisance to your memory, Nor self indulgently in search of pain. No, I must go Back to the places Where you put your hand, To see them now without you, gutted bare, Swept hollow of your presence. I must stand Alone and in their empty faces stare, To find another truth I do not know; To balance those unequal shifted planes Of our existence, yours and mine; to fix The whirling landscapes of the heart in which I walk a stranger both to space and time I must go back; In each familiar corner wait until I witness once again the flesh turn cold, The spirit parting from the body's hold And let it go, and love the landscape still; But now on only for itself alone... For I must meet and marry in myself The truth of what has ended, what is new; The past and future; death and life. And when At last the two conflicting pairs are met; The planes are balanced and the landscapes set; The strands of past and future tied in one Tough, weather-beaten, salted twist of hemp, The present - then I shall be able to refind myself And also you |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rowan Date: 24 Oct 07 - 04:14 AM And whenever I watch the muttonbirds leave the island on their migration from their nests in NSW to their feeding grounds in the Bering Sea I marvel, wonder, and then think on the following. The death of the bird AD Hope For every bird there is this last migration: Once more the cooling year kindles her heart; With a warm passage to the summer station Love pricks the course in lights across the chart. Year after year a speck on the map, divided By a whole hemisphere, summons her to come; Season after season, sure and safely guided, Going away she is also coming home. And being home, memory becomes a passion With which she feeds her brood and straws her nest, Aware of ghosts that haunt the heart's possession And exiled love mourning within the breast. The sands are green with a mirage of valleys; The palm-tree casts a shadow not its own; Down the long architrave of temple or palace Blows a cool air from moorland scarps of stone. And day by day the whisper of love grows stronger; That delicate voice, more urgent with despair, Custom and fear constraining her no longer, Drives her at last on the waste leagues of air. A vanishing speck in those inane dominions, Single and frail, uncertain of her place, Alone in the bright host of her companions, Lost in the blue unfriendliness of space, She feels it close now, the appointed season: The invisible thread is broken as she flies; Suddenly, without warning, without reason, The guiding spark of instinct winks and dies. Try as she will, the trackless world delivers No way, the wilderness of light no sign, The immense and complex map of hills and rivers Mocks her small wisdom with its vast design. And darkness rises from the eastern valleys, And the winds buffet her with their hungry breath, And the great earth, with neither grief nor malice, Receives the tiny burden of her death. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: bobad Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:27 PM This poem resonates with me because I grew up the "wrong" side of the tracks: dogfight he's a runt he snarls and scratches chases cars groans in his sleep and has a perfect star above each eyebrow we hear it outside: he's ripping the shit out of something out there 5 times his size it's the professor's dog from across the street that educated expensive bluebook dog o, we're all in trouble I pull them apart and we run inside with the runt bolt the door flick out the lights and see them crossing the street immaculate and concerned it looks like 7 or 8 people coming to get their dog that big bag of jelly with hair he ought to know better than to cross the railroad tracks. Charles Bukowski |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:11 PM Another one we memorized: Richard Cory Edwin Arlington Robinson Whenever Richard Cory went down town, We people on the pavement looked at him: He was a gentleman from sole to crown, Clean favored, and imperially slim. And he was always quietly arrayed, And he was always human when he talked; But still he fluttered pulses when he said, "Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked. And he was rich—yes, richer than a king— And admirably schooled in every grace: In fine, we thought that he was everything To make us wish that we were in his place. So on we worked, and waited for the light, And went without the meat, and cursed the bread; And Richard Cory, one calm summer night, Went home and put a bullet through his head. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Joe_F Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:15 PM As the long year came to an end all the world wept. Clouds burst against the spires and minarets, The streets melted and Many shivered at their gray reflections. And I was glad, as one is relieved at artificial endings. Tomorrow, in a different year, we shave the same face or powder it; and lawyers tell the same old laws for or against us. Yet the mind relaxes as midnight passes, And I was glad this year crept out in tears, That the dirty sky, without a lawyer's aid, should open, And make an end of it. -- Johanna Ross |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Marion Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:14 PM Fiddler Jones by Edgar Lee Masters THE EARTH keeps some vibration going There in your heart, and that is you. And if the people find you can fiddle, Why, fiddle you must, for all your life. What do you see, a harvest of clover? 5 Or a meadow to walk through to the river? The wind's in the corn; you rub your hands For beeves hereafter ready for market; Or else you hear the rustle of skirts Like the girls when dancing at Little Grove. 10 To Cooney Potter a pillar of dust Or whirling leaves meant ruinous drouth; They looked to me like Red-Head Sammy Stepping it off, to "Toor-a-Loor." How could I till my forty acres 15 Not to speak of getting more, With a medley of horns, bassoons and piccolos Stirred in my brain by crows and robins And the creak of a wind-mill—only these? And I never started to plow in my life 20 That some one did not stop in the road And take me away to a dance or picnic. I ended up with forty acres; I ended up with a broken fiddle— And a broken laugh, and a thousand memories, 25 And not a single regret. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:43 PM We'll go no more a-roving Lord Byron SO, we'll go no more a-roving So late into the night, Though the heart be still as loving, And the moon be still as bright. For the sword outwears its sheath, And the soul wears out the breast, And the heart must pause to breathe, And love itself have rest. Though the night was made for loving, And the day returns too soon, Yet we'll go no more a-roving By the light of the moon. --------------------------------------------------------- Upon the Death of Sir Albert Morton's Wife Sir Henry Wotton He first deceased; she for a little tried To live without him, liked it not, and died. --------------------------------------------------------- The Lover in Winter Plaineth for the Spring Anonymous Western wind, when will thou blow The small rain down can rain? Christ, if my love were in my arms And I in my bed again! |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: GUEST,GUEST Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:30 PM W. B. YEATS AN IRISH AIRMAN FORESEES HIS DEATH I know that I shall meet my fate Somewhere among the clouds above; Those that I fight I do not hate Those that I guard I do not love; My country is Kiltartan Cross, My countrymen Kiltartan's poor, No likely end could bring them loss Or leave them happier than before. Nor law, nor duty bade me fight, Nor public man, nor cheering crowds, A lonely impulse of delight Drove to this tumult in the clouds; I balanced all, brought all to mind, The years to come seemed waste of breath, A waste of breath the years behind In balance with this life, this death THE FIDDLER OF DOONEY When I play on my fiddle in Dooney, Folk dance like a wave on the sea; My cousin is priest in Kilvarnet My brother in Mocharabuiee.* I passed my brother and cousin: They read in their books of prayer: I read in my book of songs I bought at the Sligo fair. When we come at the end of time To Peter sitting in state, He will smile on three old spirits, But call me first through the gate; For the good are always the merry, Save by an evil chance, And the merry love the fiddle, And the merry love to dance. And when the folk there spy me, They will all come up to me, With 'Here is the fiddler of Dooney!' And dance like the wave on the sea. * Pronounced as if spelt 'Mockrabwee'. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Peace Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:11 PM "South of my days' circle I know it is dark against the stars. the high lean country full of old stories that still go walking in my sleep." Wow! |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rowan Date: 23 Oct 07 - 05:53 PM Ever since researching lithoseres at Wilson's Promontory I've had an affinity with granite landscapes; I now live in the one described here. South of my days Judith Wright South of my days' circle, part of my bloods' country, rises that tableland, high delicate outline of bony slopes wincing under the winter, low trees blue-leaved and olive, outcropping granite — clean, lean, hungry country. The creek's leaf-silenced, willow-choked, the slope a tangle of medlar and crabapple branching over and under, blotched with a green lichen; and the old cottage lurches in for shelter. O cold the black-frost night. The walls draw in to the warmth and the old roof cracks its joints; the slung kettle hisses a leak on the fire. Hardly to be believed that summer will turn up again some day in a wave of rambler roses, thrusts its hot face in here to tell another yarn — a story old Dan can spin into a blanket against the winter. Seventy years of stories he clutches round his bones. Seventy summers are hived in him like old honey. During that year, Charleville to the Hunter, nineteen-one it was, and the drought beginning; sixty head left at the McIntyre, the mud round them hardened like iron; and the yellow boy died in the sulky ahead with the gear, but the horse went on, stopped at the Sandy Camp and waited in the evening. It was the flies we seen first, swarming like bees. Came to the Hunter, three hundred head of a thousand — cruel to keep them alive — and the river was dust. Or mustering up in the Bogongs in the autumn when the blizzards came early. Brought them down; we brought them down, what aren't there yet. Or driving for Cobb's on the run up from Tamworth — Thunderbolt at the top of Hungry Hill, and I give him a wink. I wouldn't wait long Fred, not if I was you; the troopers are just behind, coming for that job at the Hillgrove. He went like a luny, him on his big black horse. Oh, they slide and they vanish as he shuffles the years like a pack of conjuror's cards. True or not, it's all the same; and the frost on the roof cracks like a whip, and the back-log breaks into ash. Wake, old man. This is winter, and the yarns are over. No one is listening. South of my days' circle I know it is dark against the stars. the high lean country full of old stories that still go walking in my sleep. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Emma B Date: 23 Oct 07 - 03:44 PM An extract from a (tranlated) poem by Blaga Dimitrova I can really feel empathy with - "I was always distracted from my goal in life I was always diverted , late , missed deadlines. But now ,looking back , I see how much I would have missed , If I had perfectly pursued my goal. (by the way ,what was it ?)" Here is a poem of hers that I find almost unbearably personally moving. Blaga Dimitrova "LULLABY FOR MY MOTHER" At night I make her bed in the folds of old age. Her skinny hand pulls mine into the dark. Before her dreams begin, from a brain erased of speech, a small cracked voice calls "Mama" and I become my mother's mother. and am jolted as if the earth's axis tilted and the poles reversed. Where am I? I have no time for speculations. Flustered, I wipe her dry just as she once taught me. "Mama", she whispers worried at being naughty. A draft streams from the window. Heating pad. Glass. The pills. I tip the lampshade back. "Mama, don't leave me alone all by myself in the dark." She chokes her sobs as I take her in my arms so heavy with pain and fear. She or me? In cold winter a double cradle breaks. "Please wake me early. I need an early start" Is anything left to do? Which of us left work undone? Mama, my child sleep. "Little baby bunting……" Translated by John Balaban more information about this poet and further extracts here |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Bill D Date: 23 Oct 07 - 11:35 AM exerpt from Carl Sandburg's "The People, Yes" - "Get off this estate." "What for?" "Because it's mine." "Where did you get it?" "From my father." "Where did he get it?" "From his father." "And where did he get it?" "He fought for it." "Well, I'll fight you for it." ----------------------------------------------------------- and doesn't that say a lot about "the people"? |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Peace Date: 23 Oct 07 - 11:34 AM I'm not much for religion, but ever since encountering this 25 years ago I have liked it, both for sound and for meaning. Simple and elegant at once. Fæder ure, þu þe eart on heofonum, si þin nama gehalgod. Tobecume þin rice. Gewurþe ðin willa on eorðan swa swa on heofonum. Urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us to dæg. And forgyf us ure gyltas, swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum. And ne gelæd þu us on costnunge, ac alys us of yfele. Soþlice. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Bill D Date: 23 Oct 07 - 11:27 AM In my first German class, in 1957, we read this poem by Walther von der Vogelweide, ca. 1170-1230. I put the 1st verse here from memory, though I have long lost the book it was in, and cannot vouch for the spelling. Unter den Linden, auf die Heide, Wo Ich mit meinen Leibsten lag; Da mögt er finden wo wir beide, Die Blumen braüchen, und das grass. Vor dem Wald in einem Tal. Tanderedei! So leiblich sang die Nachtigal. Now, here it is in its entirety, in its original Middle High German spelling. Under der linden Under der linden an der heide, dâ unser zweier bette was, dâ muget ir vinden schône beide gebrochen bluomen unde gras. Vor dem walde in einem tal, tandaradei, schône sanc diu nahtegal. Ich kam gegangen zuo der ouwe: dô was mîn friedel komen ê. Dâ wart ich empfangen (hêre frouwe!) daz ich bin sælic iemer mê. Kust er mich? Wol tûsentstunt: tandaradei, seht wie rôt mir ist der munt. Dô hete er gemachet alsô rîche von bluomen eine bettestat. Des wirt noch gelachet inneclîche, kumt iemen an daz selbe pfat: bî den rôsen er wol mac, tandaradei, merken wâ mir'z houbet lac. Daz er bî mir læge, wesse'z iemen (nu enwelle got!), so schamte ich mich. Wes er mit mir pflæge, niemer niemen bevinde daz, wan er und ich, und ein kleinez vogellîn: tandaradei, daz mac wol getriuwe sîn. Walther von der Vogelweide and here is a translation (not a good one, in my opinion, as the translator treats it pretty lightly - read in German, it can sound quite sensual.)(he translates 'tanderadei' as "heigh-de-ho", when I hear it as "wow..oh, my gracious!" (I have seen it translated as "Gracious Mary!") So, here is another translation which does not even bother to translate the exclamation. ------------------------------------------------------------------ and last, a poem about Vogëlweide by Longfellow. Walter Von Der Vogelweide Henry Wadsworth Longfellow VOGELWEID, the Minnesinger, When he left this world of ours, Laid his body in the cloister, Under Wurtzburg's minster towers. And he gave the monks his treasures, Gave them all with this behest They should feed the birds at noontide Daily on his place of rest; Saying, "From these wandering minstrels I have learned the art of song; Let me now repay the lessons They have taught so well and long." Thus the bard of love departed; And, fulfilling his desire, On his tomb the birds were feasted By the children of the choir. Day by day, o'er tower and turret, In foul weather and in fair, Day by day, in vaster numbers, Flocked the poets of the air. On the tree whose heavy branches Overshadowed all the place, On the pavement, on the tombstone; On the poet's sculptured face, On the cross-bars of each window, On the lintel of each door, They renewed the War of Wartburg, Which the bard had fought before. There they sang their merry carols, Sang their lauds on every side; And the name their voices uttered Was the name of Vogelweid. Till at length the portly abbot Murmured, "Why this waste of food? Be it changed to loaves henceforward For our fasting brotherhood." Then in vain o'er tower and turret, From the walls and woodland nests, When the minster bells rang noontide, Gathered the unwelcome guests. Then in vain, with cries discordant, Clamorous round the Gothic spire, Screamed the feathered Minnesingers For the children of the choir. Time has long effaced the inscriptions On the cloister's funeral stones, And tradition only tells us Where repose the poet's bones. But around the vast cathedral, By sweet echoes multiplied, Still the birds repeat the legend, And the name of Vogelweid. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Peace Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:11 AM An Immorality Sing we for love and idleness, Naught else is worth the having. Though I have been in many a land, There is naught else in living. And I would rather have my sweet, Though rose-leaves die of grieving, Than do high deeds in Hungary To pass all men's believing. Ezra Pound I am aware of Pound's difficulties during the war. That said, I like much of his poetry--especially the ones I comprehend. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Wild Flying Dove Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:59 AM Sorry Jeanie! There appear to be loads of references to pomegranates in poems, so finding it without author and title will be hard. I will ask my colleague who teaches English if he has any ideas. By the way, I did English Literature too, 1971-3, but didn't do any Commonwealth stuff. I still love all the literature I read then. WFD |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: kendall Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:12 AM The Loch Archre was a clipper tall With seven and twenty hands in all Twenty to hand and reef and haul A skipper to sail, and Mates to bawl, "Tally into the tackles falls, Heave now and start her, Heave and pawl." Hear the yarn of a sailor 'Tis and old yarn, learned at sea. The crew were shipped and they said "Farewell, So long me tottie you lovely gal We sail today should we fetch to hell It's time we tackled the wheel a spell." The dockside loafers talked on the Quay (Key) the day they towed her down to the sea "Lord, what a handsome ship she be. Cheer her sonny boys, three times three." They gave her a cheer as the custom is And the crew yelled back "GIVE OUR LOVE TO LIZ! Three cheers for the old pier head And the bloody "stay at homes," they said. Then the darkness, the coming on of night She drops the tug at the Tusker Light Her yards were trimmed and she slanted south With her royals set, and a "bone in her mouth." They crossed the line and all went well They ate, they slept, they struck the bell And I give you gospel truth when I state The crew could find no fault with the Mate. But, one night, off the river Platte She freshens up and blows like thunder Buried her deep lee scuppers under She couldn't lay to, nor yet pay off Her decks swept clean in the bloody trough. Then, a fierce squall hit the Loch Archre Buried her down to her waterways The main shrouds gave and the forstay Green seas carried the wheel away. Before the watch below could dress She was cluttered up in a blushing mess Her masts were gone and before you knowed She filled by the head, and down she goed. The crew made seven and 20 dishes For the big Jacksharks and the little fishes Over their bones the water swishes. Now, the wives, the girls wait in the rain For a ship that won't come home again "Oh, I reckon it must be them head winds," they say, "They'll be home tomorrow, if not today. I'll just nip home and air the sheets Buy the fixin's and cook the meats As my man likes, as my man eats." Up the windy streets they go They are thinking their men are homeward bound With anchors hungry for English ground, But, the bloody fun of it is, they've all drowned. Hear the yarn of a sailor 'Tis an old yarn, learned at sea. John Masefield This is from memory which is not getting better. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 23 Oct 07 - 09:11 AM Grass Carl Sandburg Pile the bodies high at Austerlitz and Waterloo. Shovel them under and let me work - I am the grass; I cover all. And pile them high at Gettysburg And pile them high at Ypres and Verdun. Shovel them under and let me work. Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor: What place is this? Where are we now? I am the grass. Let me work. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Azizi Date: 23 Oct 07 - 08:03 AM WHEN MALINDY SINGS {Paul Laurence Dunbar} G'WAY an' quit dat noise, Miss Lucy -- Put dat music book away; What's de use to keep on tryin'? Ef you practise twell you're gray, You cain't sta't no notes a-flyin' Lak de ones dat rants and rings F'om de kitchen to be big woods When Malindy sings. You ain't got de nachel o'gans Fu' to make de soun' come right, You ain't got de tu'ns an' twistin's Fu' to make it sweet an' light. Tell you one thing now, Miss Lucy, An' I'm tellin' you fu' true, When hit comes to raal right singin', 'T ain't no easy thing to do. Easy 'nough fu' folks to hollah, Lookin' at de lines an' dots, When dey ain't no one kin sence it, An' de chune comes in, in spots; But fu' real melojous music, Dat jes' strikes yo' hea't and clings, Jes' you stan' an' listen wif me When Malindy sings. Ain't you nevah hyeahd Malindy? Blessed soul, tek up de cross! Look hyeah, ain't you jokin', honey? Well, you don't know whut you los'. Y' ought to hyeah dat gal a-wa'blin', Robins, la'ks, an' all dem things, Heish dey moufs an' hides dey faces When Malindy sings. Fiddlin' man jes' stop his fiddlin', Lay his fiddle on de she'f; Mockin'-bird quit tryin' to whistle, 'Cause he jes' so shamed hisse'f. Folks a-playin' on de banjo Draps dey fingahs on de strings-- Bless yo' soul--fu'gits to move em, When Malindy sings. She jes' spreads huh mouf and hollahs, "Come to Jesus," twell you hyeah Sinnahs' tremblin' steps and voices, Timid-lak a-drawin' neah; Den she tu'ns to "Rock of Ages," Simply to de cross she clings, An' you fin' yo' teahs a-drappin' When Malindy sings. Who dat says dat humble praises Wif de Master nevah counts? Heish yo' mouf, I hyeah dat music, Ez hit rises up an' mounts-- Floatin' by de hills an' valleys, Way above dis buryin' sod, Ez hit makes its way in glory To de very gates of God! Oh, hit's sweetah dan de music Of an edicated band; An' hit's dearah dan de battle's Song o' triumph in de lan'. It seems holier dan evenin' When de solemn chu'ch bell rings, Ez I sit an' ca'mly listen While Malindy sings. Towsah, stop dat ba'kin', hyeah me! Mandy, mek dat chile keep still; Don't you hyeah de echoes callin' F'om de valley to de hill? Let me listen, I can hyeah it, Th'oo de bresh of angels' wings, Sof' an' sweet, "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot," Ez Malindy sings. -snip- Online resource of selected Dunbar poems: http://www.dunbarsite.org/gallery/WhenMalindySings.asp |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Jeanie Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:08 AM Wild Flying Dove: The pomegranate poem I am looking for is not the DH Lawrence one. I agree, though: a master with words. The poem came from an anthology called something like "A Book of Commonwealth Poetry". It was one of the set books for the London GCE A Level English exams in 1971. It was a wonderful collection of poems. I did see it once in a second-hand bookshop, and could kick myself for not having bought it. I am determined to track it down some time ! - jeanie |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Emma B Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:42 AM The cadencies of John Masefield's "Cargoes" also reminded me of another favourite one of mine. I don't think I need to add what it "speaks" to me :) The Rolling English Road by G.K.Chesterton Before the Roman came to Rye or out to Severn strode, The rolling English drunkard made the rolling English road. A reeling road, a rolling road, that rambles round the shire, And after him the parson ran, the sexton and the squire; A merry road, a mazy road, and such as we did tread The night we went to Birmingham by way of Beachy Head. I knew no harm of Bonaparte and plenty of the Squire, And for to fight the Frenchman I did not much desire; But I did bash their baggonets because they came arrayed To straighten out the crooked road an English drunkard made, Where you and I went down the lane with ale-mugs in our hands, The night we went to Glastonbury by way of Goodwin Sands. His sins they were forgiven him; or why do flowers run Behind him; and the hedges all strengthening in the sun? The wild thing went from left to right and knew not which was which, But the wild rose was above him when they found him in the ditch. God pardon us, nor harden us; we did not see so clear The night we went to Bannockburn by way of Brighton Pier. My friends, we will not go again or ape an ancient rage, Or stretch the folly of our youth to be the shame of age, But walk with clearer eyes and ears this path that wandereth, And see undrugged in evening light the decent inn of death; For there is good news yet to hear and fine things to be seen, Before we go to Paradise by way of Kensal Green. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Wild Flying Dove Date: 23 Oct 07 - 05:41 AM Jeanie - the Pomeganate poem is DH Lawrence, part of a series about fruit - the Fig poem is well known for being a partly veiled description of female genitalia. Pomegranite alludes to sex and morality - in his era he has forced to justify his actions - eg. the last 2 lines of Pomegranite ... "For my part, I prefer my heart to be broken, It is so lovely, dawn-kaleidoscopic within the crack." Bet you've never heard it described like that before! He was masterful with words. Poems I especially like are: Entirely by Louis MacNeice and The Great Lover by Robert Graves |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rowan Date: 23 Oct 07 - 02:24 AM The first few stanzas of AD Hope's "The double looking glass" reads; See how she strips her lily for the sun; the silk shrieks upward from her wading feet; down through the pool her wavering echoes run; candour with candour, shade and substance meet. From where a wet meniscus rings the shin the crisp air shivers up her glowing thighs, swell round a noble haunch and whispers in the dimple of her belly.... Surely eyes lurk in the aurels, wher each leafy nest darts its quick bird-glance through the shifting screen. .... Yawn of the oxter, lift of liquid breast splinter their white shafts through our envious green where thuds this rage of double double hearts. .... My foolish fear refracts a foolish dream. Here all things have imagined counterparts: a dragon-fly dim-darting in the stream follows and watches with enormous eyes his blue narcissus glitter in the air. The flesh reverberates its own surprise and startles at the act which makes it bare. Laced with quick air and vibrant to the light, now my whole animal breathes and knows its place in the great web of being, and its right; the mind learns ease again, the heart finds grace. I am as all things living. Man alone cowers from his world in clothes and cannot guess how earth and water, branch and beast and stone speak to the naked in their nakedness. .... A silver rising of her arms, that share their pure and slender crescent with the pool plunders the braided treasure of her hair. Loosed from their coils uncrowning falls the full cascade of tresses whispering down her flanks, and idly now she wades a step, and stays tp watch the ripples widen to the banks and lapse in mossy coves and rushy bays. And that's the first 9 of the allegory's 42 stanzas. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Mickey191 Date: 23 Oct 07 - 01:30 AM Remembrance We promised we wouldn't do this But now I look into your face My legs are weak, just one hug And a kiss, for old times sake Then another hug, and I quiver In remembrance Your hand is so soft As it strokes my hair and down my back Smoothing away months and years You light the candles And shadows dance across the walls We lie down just to hold And suddenly, remembrance takes over You are everywhere Beside me, above me, below me, in me Your mouth is the sweetest thing I've ever known. I can't touch enough, kiss enough, hold enough. Like time has been standing still You cause me to shudder. Anonymous |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Mickey191 Date: 23 Oct 07 - 01:04 AM American Tune lyrics Paul Simon lyrics Many's the time I've been mistaken, and many times confused Yes, and I've often felt forsaken, and certainly misused. Ah, but I'm all right, I'm all right. I'm just weary to my bones. Still you don't expect to be bright and bon vivant, so far away from home, so far away from home. And I don't know a soul who's not been battered. I don't have a friend who feels at ease. I don't know a dream that's not been shattered, or driven to its knees. Ah, but it's all right. It's all right. For we've lived so well so long. Still, when I think of the road we're travelin' on, I wonder what's gone wrong. I can't help but wonder what's gone wrong. And I dreamed I was dying. I dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly, and looking back down at me, smiled reassuringly. And I dreamed I was flying, and high up above my eyes could clearly see the Statue of Liberty sailing away to sea. And I dreamed I was flying. And we come on the ship they call the Mayflower. We come on the ship that sailed the moon. We come in the age's most uncertain hours, and sing an American tune. Oh, and it's all right, it's all right, it's all right. You can't be forever blessed. Still tomorrow's gonna be another working day and I'm tryin' to get some rest; that's all - I'm trying to get some rest. Brilliant. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Marion Date: 23 Oct 07 - 12:45 AM One more for tonight... Elegy for the Gift (Elegy for the Light) Sometimes, when the subway car comes briefly out of the tunnel, we don't look up, miss the light. And it's as though, inattentive, we'd never had that moment of brightness. A life may be full of such small losses, or full, equally, of small, dense gifts: the child on that same car dipping her face into her mother's; that perfect regard. PS. Found on a poster in the Toronto subway. The title is sic; I know it looks like I wasn't sure and offered two versions. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Marion Date: 23 Oct 07 - 12:37 AM NICU by Belle Waring Dying babies need warmth motion song Dead babies need nothing So why am I still rocking singing PS. NICU stands for neonatal intensive care unit; I found this in a book of poetry by nurses. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Marion Date: 23 Oct 07 - 12:30 AM Dirge Without Music by Edna St. Vincent Millay I am not resigned to the shutting away of loving hearts in the hard ground. So it is, and so it will be, for so it has been, time out of mind: Into the darkness they go, the wise and the lovely. Crowned With lilies and with laurel they go; but I am not resigned. Lovers and thinkers, into the earth with you. Be one with the dull, the indiscriminate dust. A fragment of what you felt, of what you knew, A formula, a phrase remains,--but the best is lost. The answers quick and keen, the honest look, the laughter, the love, -- They are gone. They are gone to feed the roses. Elegant and curled Is the blossom. Fragrant is the blossom. I know. But I do not approve. More precious was the light in your eyes than all the roses in the world. Down, down, down into the darkness of the grave, Gently they go, the beautiful, the tender, the kind; Quietly they go, the intelligent, the witty, the brave. I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Marion Date: 23 Oct 07 - 12:27 AM The Lesson of the Moth by Don Marquis i was talking to a moth the other evening he was trying to break into an electric light bulb and fry himself on the wires why do you fellows pull this stunt i asked him because it is the conventional thing for moths or why if that had been an uncovered candle instead of an electric light bulb you would now be a small unsightly cinder have you no sense plenty of it he answered but at times we get tired of using it we get bored with the routine and crave beauty and excitement fire is beautiful and we know that if we get too close it will kill us but what does that matter it is better to be happy for a moment and be burned up with beauty than to live a long time and be bored all the while so we wad all our life up into one little roll and then we shoot the roll that is what life is for it is better to be a part of beauty for one instant and then cease to exist than to exist forever and never be a part of beauty our attitude toward life is come easy go easy we are like human beings used to be before they became too civilized to enjoy themselves and before i could argue him out of his philosophy he went and immolated himself on a patent cigar lighter i do not agree with him myself i would rather have half the happiness and twice the longevity but at the same time i wish there was something i wanted as badly as he wanted to fry himself |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Peace Date: 22 Oct 07 - 11:00 PM Thanks, Tom. Anyone who likes "The Little Prince" is OK with me. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: topical tom Date: 22 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM No apologies necessary, Peace. Thanks for the correction.I know what I like in poetry but I obviously need to do more research! |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Rapparee Date: 22 Oct 07 - 10:17 PM Sort of a poem.... JUST WORDS Baxter Black They were just words: "Tear down the Berlin Wall" Reagan to Gorbachev at the Brandenburg Gate, 1987. "Chance of rain. " Weatherman in Iowa during the '93 flood. "Give me liberty or give me death. " Patrick Henry, 1775. "I wish I'd never read this book. . . so I could read it again for the first time." Dan Trimble about Hemingway's Old Man and the Sea, 1992. "The Grass Is Always Greener over the Septic Tank." Erma Bombeck, 1976. We often underestimate the value of words. "Good job, son." "Best cobbler I ever ate." "Did you paint that yourself?" "I'm really proud of you." "Thankya, love." We underestimate their power. "You shouldn't'a let that kid beat ya." "Maybe you should lose some weight, Bon." "You should'a tried harder." "Not again; they've heard those stories before." "You do that every time!" There are people whose opinions we truly value. There are people whose praise we'd die for. They are often two different things. Sometimes we genuinely would like to improve ourselves. "Yer lettin' your rope go too soon." "Give him his head." "Always check the hind feet when you set him up." Sometimes we just need encouragement "You did the best you could. " "You looked like you won from where I sat." "It sure runs better after you worked on it." Most everyone is the most important person in someone's life. It is no small responsibility. It should be a crime if we don't realize and recognize that importance, because what you say can have such long-lasting effect: "I believe you got the makin's of a world champion." Ty Murray's mom. "I know you can do it, but be careful." James A. Lovell, Jr.'s wife. "Believe in yourself." Martin Luther King's Sunday School teacher. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. " JFK. "Write about what you know." My college English professor after giving me an F on a poem I wrote for a class assignment. "You'll never amount to anything." Too many of us, too many times. Words. . . like burrs under a blanket, like nails in a coffin. Like a single match in a sea of gasoline. |
Subject: RE: BS: Poems that speak to you. From: Azizi Date: 22 Oct 07 - 09:00 PM I posted that entire "Signifyin' Monkey" poem/song instead of posting a hyperlink because I couldn't find the Oscar Brown Jr. version online. Here's another version of that classic African American poem: http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~boade/spring04/signifying.html |