Folk albums of 2007

Subject: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Colin Randall
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 10:22 AM

It's only late October, and I'm really only a fan with a platform (I had two until a new job overseas caused me to stop filing reviews to the Daily Telegraph) but I have used Salut! Live to list my folk albums of 2007.
Subject to something unexpected happening between now and Dec 31, Martin Simpson's Prodigal Son is my clear winner, followed by a dark horse, James Keelaghan (A few Simple Verses), and Rachel Unthank & The Winterset's The Bairns.
Full list, including separate nominations (for compilation, boxed set, retrospective), at my site but any thoughts on my top three?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Cragrat
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 01:57 PM

I think that so far 2007 has been a pretty dull year for folk music. I haven't heard Prodigal Son yet but Mr Keelaghan's album, while it remains listenable, is clearly a filler release and not up to his usual high standard. (He's recorded so few of his own songs recently, that I wonder whether he has writer's block). The Bairns is okay but just sticks to that pop/folk groove that blights so many albums these days.

One album that does warrant a mention is Sharron Kraus' Right Wantonly A Mumming (Bo Weavil25cd)which is a fresh and exciting look at that hoary old subject, the seasons. Her own songs feel as old as church yews and the singing is magnificent but this is the only folk album this year to really make me play on repeat. Sad days.

By the way, Mr Randall, I don't always or even often agree with your opinions (although we're both fond of Seth Lakeman's music) but thank you for promoting folk music in a national newspaper. You're practically a one man band!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: C. Ham
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:03 PM

The James Keelaghan album mentioned is from 2006.

Among the great albums of 2007 that immediately come to mind are:

Ry Cooder- My name Is Buddy

Bruce Springsteen- Live in Dublin

Uncle Earl- Waterloo, Tennessee

Maria Muldaur- Naughty, Bawdy & Blue

Joel Mabus- The Banjo Monlologues

David Francey- Right of Passage

Jimmy LaFave- Cimarron Manifesto

Hans Theessink- Slow Train.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 06:08 PM

"Songs of Defiance", traditional music from Chechnya and the North Caucasus:

http://music.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2108464,00.html

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: RTim
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:12 PM

As usual in the field of Folk Music, particularly Traditional Folk Music -Marketing & Production out does real talent!

Tim R

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:14 PM

Cragrat - I'm with you on Sharron Kraus - it's her best album yet. She's an underrated treasure of the contemporary UK folk scene and by rights should be made compulsory. I'd also nominate Anahata and Mary Humphreys' 'Fenlandia' and the Askew Sisters' 'All in a Garden Green' as my two favourite trad albums of the year, and the Owl Service's 'Garland of Song' as the best folk rock album.

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:43 PM

Kate Burke & Ruth Hazelton, Summer's Lonesome Tale.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Declan
Date: 23 Oct 07 - 07:44 PM

Colin,

I'm currently sorting through my CD purchases this year to come up with my pick of the year. This isn't something I publish anywhere but tends the basis for some recordings I do for some friends of mine, to give them an idea of what I'm listening to.

So far my favourite CDs are "Prodigal Son" and "There's gangs of them digging" which is a retrospective album of Songs of Irish Labour recorded by the late lamented Dublin Singer Frank Harte. There are some other candidates, but I haven't come to any conclusions on overall albums yet. I may post again in a while when I've come to more definite conclusions.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: mattkeen
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 04:40 AM

Chris Wood "Trespasser"

Only got my copy this week

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: mattkeen
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 04:45 AM

Oh and van eyken "stiffs lovers holymen thieves"

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Cragrat
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 04:47 AM

Hello Mr Spencer.

I've never heard of The Owl Service but naming yourselves after Alan Garner is very cool, indeed. Who are they?

As for folk-rock album of the year,, I haven't got it yetbut I suspect that the new Duncan McFarlane Band album will be hard to beat.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 05:47 AM

Van Eyken was last year.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: mattkeen
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:03 AM

OOps sorry about that

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Nicholas Waller
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:20 AM

Cragrat: I hadn't heard of The Owl Service either until a few days ago, when I noticed a free £7 voucher from Woven Wheat Whispers (the folk music download shop) in my email box (you have to have been already registered with WWW). I went to the site, The Owl Service's Garland of Song is their featured album, I liked what I heard of the samples they had, and so I got it (£5) and like it a lot (also comes with a bonus EP).

Click on the album for more info and samples of 6 tracks.

Also, here's some blurb from their Myspace site:

"The Owl Service formed through a mutual love of British films and television of the 1960s and 70s, the great outdoors and {of course} the sound of the English folk revival. No retro obsessives, The Owl Service simply believe that music production peaked around 1969 and they merely seek to perfectly encapsulate the influence of the greatest albums and artists of that time. Beautiful music, simply arranged, exquisitely executed and captured on tape with authentic warmth".

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:45 AM

C Ham: James Keelaghan's UK rep assures me she received the album in 2007. I certainly received my copy this year. Could it have come out across the Atlantic first and not hit the UK until his tour?

Cragrat/Nigel Spencer
       Sharron Kraus has eluded me so far but I am inspired by your recommendations andwill certainly explore.

ps to cragrat: Your last few words suit me as an epitaph. they almost made me feel guilty about cutting my link to the Telegraph. If you ever felt like doing it, a piece from you challenging my likes and dislikes, and arguing the "dull year" case (I think the opposite) would sail onto the pages of Salut! Live. [e-mail] if you want to take me up on it.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 08:55 AM

Cragrat: I HAVE listened to Duncan McFarlane's electric band CD "All Rogues and Villians" and it's on permanent repeat in the house and car.

That about says it all really!.

Actually, I envy you - you've still got the delight of hearing it for the first time to come.

BBP

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 09:47 AM

Definitely Duncan McFarlane!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 09:52 AM

Daniel O Donnell,the cup of tea?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 09:55 AM

Er...Jim Causley's "Lost Love Found", released 2 weeks ago....
And VickiSwan/Jonny Dyer's Sliptease.
And Lynn Heraud/Pat Turner's new one - is it September Song?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Guest: Greg Doucette
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:10 AM

Banjo Monologues by Joel Mabus

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Santa
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:18 AM

Bob Fox? John Tams? I must admit not remembering any recently-bought cd as outstanding, or playing non-stop (as some kind of guide). Of course, a new Threlfall Trio CD is mentioned as coming this year, so there is still hope.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: treewind
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 10:18 AM

George: will your new one be out before the end of the year?

Nigel: OK - the cheque's in the post!

And for the guest (apparently Colin R.) who wanted to investigate: Askew Sisters (a bit out of date, but I'm sure you can follow the advertised CD buying procedure for "Four by Two" to get a copy of "All in a Garden Green" and Fenlandia ("buy online" link recommended!) both on WildGoose of course.

Anahata
(brazenly exploiting possible Xmas sales opportunity)

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Colin Randall
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 11:06 AM

Treewind: Yes, that was my post - I appeared as a guest because I'd forgotten my password and then compounded it by not adding my name. And thanks for the Askew Sisters/Fenlandia tips - living abroad is no excuse for having to admit these names are new to me

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 11:08 AM

The Askew Sisters record is terrific (as are the Askew Sisters).

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 11:34 AM

Damn, I forgot Fenlandia - indeed there's a worthy candidate!
No, Anahata, mine should come out February (tentative title "Lifeseyes").

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Arnie
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 12:07 PM

These are supposedly good folk albums. Anyone have these on their lists?
http://www.canadianfolkmusicawards.ca/cfma/index.php?page_id=16

I'd venture to say there are many many great recordings in 2007 not even thought of by any given person or organization making up their best of list,(who can possibly have listened to the enormous output of cds in a year) when you delve into the various folk genres. These kinds of contests are becoming a bit ridiculous. So many great recordings aren't even submitted to any kind of contest. I know one thing - that much of the recorded music coming out of a brand new generation of great players and awesome talent is better than ever! We are in for an exciting time. Enjoy the music.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 01:39 PM

My faves of 2007, none of these are huge releases, mainly done for the joy of music rather than substantial financial return.

You can hear songs from most of them on MySpace, I implore you to have a listen:

Brother Crow: "One for sorrow" http://www.myspace.com/brothercrowfolk

Dave Gibb: "Avalon"   http://www.myspace.com/davegibb

The Young 'uns: "To Hell with Pirate John" http://www.myspace.com/theyoungunsmusic

Wendy Arrowsmith "Now Then?" http://www.myspace.com/wendyarrowsmith
(Listen without prejudice....I have to declare a vested interest....I'm married to her!)


I haven't heard the full album below yet but I was there at the live recording and felt the hairs on the back of my neck stand up at the harmonies (from the audience as well as from the stage!!!):

Keepers Fold: "Songs for The Singing vol 1"

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 04:45 PM

Oh, I forgot one!
Steve Bailey: "Words, Lines & Rhymes" http://www.myspace.com/stevebaileyacoustic

Now this is a seriously cool album, you really should have a listen if you like your folk with a touch of blues & country, Steve writes great songs!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Greg Doucette
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 05:00 PM

Whoops. I forgot John Roberts' "Sea Fever". It's a joy.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 05:55 PM

Is this discussion being limited to folk-pop recordings?
There's a ton of fine trad-style material that was released this year.
To name a very few,
"There's Gangs of Them Digging"   Frank Harte (Daisy)
"Fenlandia" Mary Humphries and Anahata (Wildgoose)
"Harlan County" various (Rounder)
"Down By the Old Riverside" the Brazil Family (Musical Traditions)
"Sea Fever" John Roberts (Golden Hind)
"White Wings" Alison McMorland and Geordie McIntyre (Greentrax)
"Feathered Maiden" Lisa Null (Folk-Legacy)
"Three Score and Ten" Peggy Seeger (Appleseed)
"These Bones" Cooper & Nelson (Self Produced)
"Take the road to Aberfeldy" Margaret Bennett (Camsco)

I could go on and on, but why bother. I'm having enough trouble keeping the list up-to-date at camscomusic.com

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:07 PM

Dick....Folk pop...can you define?

I would not say the Young 'uns (traditional a'capella except 1 track) Keeper's Fold (a high proportion of traditional material, mainly English) or Wendy Arrowsmith (half the album traditional, mainly Scottish) really fit into your clearly derisory categorisation.

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Jeff
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:28 PM

Tom Dundee: Fleeting Moment: Live performances from 1973 to 2006. Available @ http://www.cdbaby.com/all/tomdundee

This is a retrospective set of live performances culled from many, many hours of recordings from variety of places. He was a friend of Steve Goodman and John Prine and though lesser known his body of work is every bit as strong. For those who take joy in finding gems this would be an unpolished, but brilliant stone. Tom died last year in April at the age of 59.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: C. Ham
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:32 PM

C Ham: James Keelaghan's UK rep assures me she received the album in 2007. I certainly received my copy this year. Could it have come out across the Atlantic first and not hit the UK until his tour?

I got it in the summer of 2006. According to Festival Distribution's catalogue site, the release date was June 27, 2006.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 06:35 PM

Sorry-I didn't mean to sound derogatory. It's just that there is a vast difference between, say, Bellowhead or Bodega and many of the more contemporary performers that have been mentioned in this thread and the Brazil Family or John Roberts, say. It's a difference in kind, not of quality. Can anyone suggest a better term?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: pdq
Date: 24 Oct 07 - 09:06 PM

John Prine and Mac Wiseman did a really nice record this year called "Standard Songs For Average People" which, despite the tongue-in-cheek quality of the title, is fine effort by both singers.

Prine is better known to folkies, but Mac Wiseman is a legend in Country Music and one of it's best lead tenors. He is 82 and still handily out-sings Prine who is 59. In all fairness, Prine has worked very hard to improve his diction (which it needed). Wiseman has phrasing that is hard to match.

I listen to the more than any other CD from this year and find it "works" driving to a job or sitting around in the evening having a beer.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 03:43 AM

Dick,

Thanks for your clarification....I've fallen off my high horse now....how about just calling it contemporary folk?

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 05:48 AM

I'd have extreme difficulty in accepting a definition of 'contemporary folk' applied to Bellowhead and Bodega. Good grief! They are bang up-to-date bands playing mainly trad music rooted firmly in their respective English and Scottish traditions. Bodega won the Young Folk Award a couple of years ago and Bellowhead have a prime position on the touring circuit and are, individually, heavily involved in vast numbers of ceilidh bands and concert combinations.

To answer the question, truly outstanding releases (among many others) I have come across this year include Fenlandia, Askew Sisters, Trespasser and Jim Causley, all I think, already mentioned.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 07:06 AM

If anyone doesn't know the Askew Sisters, and for those who already do, there are some clips taken from one of their Sidmouth Folkweek 2007 gigs on youtube. Search on Askew Sisters should find them. (PS videoed and put on youtube with their approval)

PPS I really like their CD and John Kirkpatrick's Bare Bones but it has been a quiet year for the stuff I like

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 10:04 AM

Martin Simpson - Prodigal Son

June Tabor - Apples

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,The Ballad of the Bold Researcher
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 12:20 PM

"Can anyone suggest a better term?"

John Tams has refered to it as popular music...works for me

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: mattkeen
Date: 25 Oct 07 - 02:30 PM

Yves Lambert & Le Bebert Orchestra - self titled

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Folkiedave
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 04:28 AM

Can I just echo the Duncan McFarlane record as a nomination?

This guy needs and deserves to be much better known.

If this was heard on a wider scale it would walk Album of the Year.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: theleveller
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 05:04 AM

Albums I've particularly enjoyed this year are:

Oysterband - Meet You There
Martin Simpson - Prodigal Son
Steve Knightley - Cruel River
Waterboys - Book of Lightning

and a CD from a young singer/songwriter from York called Dan Webster - The Other Side of Brightness. Not everyone's cup of tea, maybe, but it keeps finding its way onto my CD player.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 26 Oct 07 - 05:34 AM

I love Traitor's Love, George, nice one! Froots review didn't seem to pick up on it although it did mention Jim duetting with Sandra Kerr on Lady Skin & Bone even though she isn't even on that track and doesn't actually sing anywhere on the album!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 27 Oct 07 - 08:06 AM

Thanks Dave - wish we could achieve a wider audience!

But I must point out - it's a band effort - the other five...
Geoff, Anne, Steve, Tony and Nick....
on leccie guitar, fiddle, melodeon, bass guitar and drums respectively...
....have made a magnificent contribution to that album,
one that we all agree is far superior to any work we've all done before.

Six way credit then, not just me - cheers - Duncan

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:20 PM

theleveller has just mentioned my 3 fav cd's

oysterband...meet you there
martin simpson...prodigal son
steve knightley...cruel river

so need to check out his other leads, thanks leveller

J

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Graham.R.
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 08:44 AM

my vote goes to Mary Humphreys & Anahata's Fenlandia

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:08 AM

oooh - I bought Harlan County USA from iTunes, Dick G, and have to agree that it's fantastic!

Fenlandia is very good. I think Martin Simpson will win album of the year for Prodigal Son. I've only listened to Jim Causley's CD once so far, but I liked it a lot.

I heard Bella Hardy's CD recently, and I really liked her voice.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: theleveller
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:32 AM

"theleveller has just mentioned my 3 fav cd's"

Great stuff, w-a-j. Have you heard The Imagined Village, yet? Very different, but I think it's great (see the thread on it).

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 11:10 AM

thx leveller have not heard of it but will certainly check it out.

waj

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 01:42 PM

Buy The Duncan McFarlane album, put it on the dansette and you will be excited by the excellent music that comes out.

Certainly album of the year, great tunes, new songs interesting arrangements.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 02:30 PM

Thanks Les - how I wish we could get a gig over your neck o th woods
- so we can play for ya - you allus say grand things about us!
Cheers!
Side note - another thread mentions the DMcF band's Woodshed Boys album
- says it's grand enough but we're better in the raw!
The new one (All Rogues & Villains) is much more like our live efforts innit
- glad you like it - cheers - Duncan

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 03:15 PM

duncan

tis my pub where we are holding 'Woodshed Sessions' led by the talented Bob Kenward. he named the sessions after the story in "woodshed boys"...hope you arent expecting any royalties!!!

stop by if you are passing through broadstairs...oh, hold on...nobody passes thru broadstairs

waj

wrotham arms

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 29 Oct 07 - 03:21 PM

- says it's grand enough but we're better in the raw!

This is dangerous talk Dunc!

Best of luck

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 06:22 AM

No royalties neccessary waj.
Quite pleased someone actually heard of the song & album!
Bless!
It's bloomin hard to get exposure on the 'scene' when you put
out on 'own label' with no management or agent.

- just hoping the newie 'All Rogues & Villains'
gets more of a 'fair go' than 'Woodshed'.
So far so good - lotsa fine reviews (try www.folkwords.com)
and plenty of BBC radio plays - local level! - Shropshire, Derby, Leeds etc - all to high acclaim
- but not Radio 2 - wonder why?
We truly believe this is a grand CD!
(well they would say that.....hah!)

Broadstairs - a fest we'd gladly bring the band to...
got any clues for us as to how we get noticed by 'em?
Sending a CD (when they get so many) seems fruitless in the main.
I wonder if the right folks get to hear - when we post out
- one rarely gets feedback - but perhaps that's fodder for another thread discussion?
Cheers - D

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 08:13 AM

Duncan,

I thought you had already reached the pinnacle playing Kirkby Fleetham Folk Club in February for the Winter Warmer Weekend

....you mean you need more than this!!!!

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 10:01 AM

Duncan,

Assuming Paul's wrong and that wasn't the pinnacle of your career...
I can put a word in, but my clout is very limited, alas. IMHO would be a wonderful addition to a good fest.

A thread is a great idea. Would have to say that I may not be the best to start it since I am less than anonymous and have a business interest...hmmmm me thinks time to change my identity...where's the closest phone box these days?

Go on, I dare someone to start it up so I can at least observe from behind my screen.

waj

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: BB
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 03:36 PM

Duncan, Kim Headley who is the Artistic Director at Broadstairs, does listen to the CDs she's sent, and often books on the strength of them, although a personal word from someone she trusts also helps sometimes. She also goes to the AFO conference and talks to a lot of people there, as she's not a 'folkie', so listens to those 'in the know' to some extent.

If you're really pleased with the new CD, it might be worth sending it, although she's already got most of her main stage line-up for next year booked, I think.

I haven't heard you yet, but the various things on here about you make me want to.

Good luck.

Barbara

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 04:21 PM

w-a-j......not was the pinnacle but will be the pinnacle...The Winter Warmer Weekend is in February 2008.

In all seriousness, The Duncan McFarlane Band do deserve a much bigger stage than we can give them at Kirkby Fleetham....I don't know what is wrong with the first album personally never mind the current release.

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 07:29 PM

I'll send Kim a CD or two - thanks for the info - presumably via any addy found on their fest website?
Nowt wrong wi' first album - second is divisions better in class tho'
- read an independant review on www.folkwords.com
Never met them folks - but they seem to know that it's quality folk-rock they've encountered!
Thanks for the encouragement folks! - D

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Declan
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 08:26 PM

Diane said "I'd have extreme difficulty in accepting a definition of 'contemporary folk' applied to Bellowhead and Bodega. Good grief! They are bang up-to-date bands".

Not wanting to start a slagging match here, and I may be quoting selectively, but what does the word contemporary mean if it is not bang up to date - so what is the problem with the word contemporary describing the bands in question.

The English language, which I speak, but have no claim to ownership of, is being strangled in these silly folk definition wars. I like both Bodega and Bellowhead. They are both,as Diane has said, well rooted in their traditions - but if that means they can't be described as contemporary, we're all using the wrong words.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Cobble
Date: 30 Oct 07 - 08:34 PM

Real folk music is written by people that have experienced what they are singing about, not a load of crap by someone who is out to make a fast buck off what they have seen on the news etc.

Cobble.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 05:12 AM

Duncan,
Incase you haven't found it...

Kim Headley, Artistic Director
Broadstairs Folk Week
Pieremont Hall
Broadstairs
Kent
CT10 1JX

e-mail [e-mail]

Good luck to you!
waj

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 06:19 AM

You know you're getting old (alt. explanation: the world is going mad)when you read a thread on recent folk albums and you haven't heard, or heard of (!), about 90% of the artists mentioned in it.

Still, I'm not too worried about this state of affairs as 'Sturgeon's Law' probably applies ie. "90% of everything is crap".

I have heard of (and heard) Mary Humphreys & Anahata, by the way - and they are excellent and definitely not crap.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 06:29 AM

OK Shimrod......listen to this and tell me it is crap

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 07:25 AM

Beware clicking on Banjimans link if youre in a hurry, it links to so much excellant stuff that you'll not get out of the house!!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,matt m
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 08:41 AM

Chris Thile - how to grow a woman from the ground
(barnstorming bluegrass album. quite poppy but never cheesy at all)

Alasdair Roberts - the amber gatherers
(one of the best folk-rock albums I've ever heard. possibly Ali's cheeriest yet)

Agree with the votes for the Jim Causley album. Still not entirely convinced about some of his delivery on some of his songs though. But great stuff.

Really enjoying the snippets I've heard of Simon Prager's album 'Shuckin Sugar' - mix of covers and originals of blues and fingerpicky US folk stuff. From what I've heard I suspect it's probably up there with the best of other folky things I've heard this year.

Nick Drake's 'Family Tree' album is probably the album I've listened to the most this year. I actually now prefer it to his studio albums. Much more bluesy playing. The duet with his sister, and the music written and played by his mum is beautiful.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: KeithofChester
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 09:15 AM

The James Keelaghan first came out in Canada in the summer of 2006 but it only had its UK release on Fellside in February 2007, ready for James tour here.

I like both James' CD and Steve Knightley's Cruel River. I would but Steve ahead of James, but I would rate Richard Shindell's South of Delia higher than either. Now, whether that is really "released" here is a moot point. It is on Richard's own label. Amazon do now (finally) know it exists and Mike Harding has played a couple of tracks, but it hasn't really had a lot of "marketing" in the UK as such.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Colin Randall
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 10:29 AM

The sheer number and variety of nominations prove Arnie wrong in his assertion that these exercises are ridiculous because no one can possibly have heard everything released in a given year.

My original choices at Salut! Live would have included both Oysterband's Meet You There and Steve Knightley's Cruel River, among others, if I had not stopped my list at 10. And even though my previous reviewing role means I probably get more albums than most, I don't pretend to have been able to listen to more than a fraction of the total folk and folk related output. There is music out there I will explore as a direct result of this thread.....

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:34 PM

The Wendy Arrowsmith music Banjiman has alerted us to is lovely. What a gorgeous voice.

Thank you.

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:56 PM

What I actually wrote was that Bellowhead and Bodega were 'bang up-to-date bands playing mainly trad music rooted firmly in their respective English and Scottish traditions'.

As any fule (probably even Declan) kno, 'contemporary' has a specific meaning in the field of what is (extremely) loosely termed 'f*lk', namely that it is recently composed of known authorship, is usually performed in strangulated fashion by callow youths playing acoustic guitars in their bedrooms and has as little relevance to traditional music as McRubbish has to food.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 05:09 PM

Bellowhead and Bodega are thoroughly modern and definitely not 'contemporary'. I really don't like that term - nothing any good ever gets called contemporary except slightly old art.

Bellowhead I saw live not long back, here in Manchester.I dragged some non-folk friends along who had a riproaringly good night out. Sadly they still don't like my 'Spencer the Rover' ringtone... maybe the Coppers are too southern for them?

Meanwhile I'm listening to Bella Hardy's CD as I type. Another great voice and yet more lovely arrangements. How healthy is traditional music at the moment?

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 05:30 PM

Bella Hardy is an exceptionally fine fiddlesinger from Edale which is even further south than Spencer The Rover's decidedly Midlands home territory of Rotherham with a crystal fountain at the foot of a slag heap. As Spencer wandered aimlessly throughout England and most parts of Wales, I've always thought the location must have got confused with somewhere else (like the Coppers somehow inserting the walls of Troy into Claudy Banks).

Right, back to topic, chaps . . .

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 05:48 PM

Talking of folk albums I've enjoyed in 2007, Paul Scourfield's 'Freshly Squeezed' should also be added to everyone's Xmas list, too...

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 31 Oct 07 - 07:09 PM

"...'contemporary' has a specific meaning in the field of what is (extremely) loosely termed 'f*lk', namely that it is recently composed of known authorship, is usually performed in strangulated fashion by callow youths playing acoustic guitars in their bedrooms and has as little relevance to traditional music as McRubbish has to food."

How very, very true, Diane, how very, very true. I really think that we should be wary about taking the 'music' of MOST "callow youths" too seriously. In my experience MOST callow youths (CYs) are merely slaves to fashion - and not much else. For example, for most of the last 35 years or so, I can guarantee that, most nights of the week, one can switch on the telly and witness a CY bellowing into a microphone whilst other CYs thrash electric guitars and bang drums in the general vicinity of the bellowing CY. Many of these 'bands' (hate that word in that context!) are proclaimed as the greatest thing since sliced doo da - but disappear without trace within a few months - to be replaced by another set of CYs - who sound exactly the same as the previous set.

Most new, contemporary, 'cutting-edge' folk bands (those that I have heard) are similar - although they are often better musicians (I will concede that much).

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 11:11 AM

Diane, Shimrod,

How old do you have to be to play "proper" f*lk music then?....I'm vaguely hoping I might still be a "CY".

.....and how old do the songs need to be?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Wayne
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 11:20 AM

Anybody heard Megson's Smoke of Home? It's very jolly. However, the most consistently enjoyable albums of the year, for me, have been rock albums: R.E.O. Speedwagon's Find Your Own Way Home and Pride of Lions' The Roaring of Dreams - both chock full of stunning melodies and great playing. Eagles' new album is shaping up nicely too but having only had it for two days, it's too soon to add to any "best of" list.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: treewind
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 12:10 PM

Don't worry, Paul. You and Wendy are doing all right!

I'm sure you've noticed (and I know perfectly well that Diane has) that there's plenty of "CY" doing excellent trad and folk especially in recent years!

Anahata

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 12:47 PM

Anahata.....

I suspect that we are no longer in the "CY" category or only relative to most on this forum...hee, hee, hee

Can I expect an oldie (? *ldie) backlash now........

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 12:50 PM

Yes, indeed. Wendy Arrowsmith was a MySpace friend on my old page which I set fire to to ward off fascists. I've made Another Page where nice young men (and others) may come and befriend me. Callowness optional. No, I lie. It's actually not allowed.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 01:04 PM

Diane,

That is one scary photo.....

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: theleveller
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 01:06 PM

All those people with their youth, good looks and talent - I hate them! Take Mawkin, for instance - their actually NICE as well.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 01:34 PM

Shimrod, am I missing some rule where people who like traditional music have to swear off kick-arse rock 'n' roll?

You're not going anywhere near my garage rock albums!

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 01:35 PM

Diane, you're my friend for life. Can I now be officially called a "callow youth"? Anything really, as long as "youth" is in there somewhere? Can't do strangulated easily though - would a hernia do?

Long time - missed you. See you at the Magpie at the end of the month?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 04:32 PM

(i) "How old do you have to be to play "proper" f*lk music then?....I'm vaguely hoping I might still be a "CY".

.....and how old do the songs need to be?"

(ii) "Shimrod, am I missing some rule where people who like traditional music have to swear off kick-arse rock 'n' roll?"

Isn't it odd that if you express an opinion about music (especially an opinion in support of trad. folk and anti-rock 'n' roll) you are automatically deemed to be laying down rules?

Where, exactly, did I suggest that any rules should apply?

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 05:05 PM

Erm... I was actually being flippant in my use of the word 'rules', Shimrod, and haven't accused you of laying down anything, I hope.

However... there does seem be a tendency for people to express their preference for thing A by slagging off things B though to F rather than by proclaiming to the world the utter marvellousness of thing A. I like traditional music rather a lot. I don't tend to express that by saying how much the music of, say, James Bl*nt or KT Tunstall sets my teeth on edge (though it undoubtedly does), but by saying, for example, how good I think the Askew Sisters or Bella Hardy are (all three about as callowly youthful as it gets, by the way).

And in my house - and it's a strange house, I readily admit - a deep affection for both Peter Bellamy and the 13th Floor Elevators (f'rinstance) is absolutely acceptable and not mutually exclusive. I'm not saying I'm right, but come to think of it...

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 07:04 PM

Nigel,

Let's get it right: Diane Easby expressed an opinion that some new 'folk music' is "usually performed in strangulated fashion by callow youths playing acoustic guitars in their bedrooms". I agreed with this remark and went on to express my opinion that the music of "callow youths" should not necessarily be held in very high regard and seized the opportunity have to a dig at contemporary rock music, which is often performed by CYs, and seems to me to be all pervasive in the mass media (even though it is, in my opinion, often trite, tuneless, ugly, unoriginal and derivative). By implication, some 'contemporary folk music' (whatever the f*ck that is!) is probably similar.

In expressing my PERSONAL opinion I was not laying down any rules and was careful not to condemn ALL music made by youths (callow or otherwise).

I'm sorry, Nigel, if my opinions and tastes are different from yours.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 01 Nov 07 - 07:44 PM

As I just said, I haven't accused you of laying down rules. I've just made a flippant comment about your outburst about kids playing rock music. Please accept my apologies if this has offended you (though I can't think why it should have!).

I like traditional music. I also happen to think that when kids experiment with making music, even if we don't enjoy or understand what they are doing, they should generally be encouraged rather than have their bonfires pissed on. Not that they'll be taking a blind bit of notice of us anyway...

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: mattkeen
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 06:11 AM

Never mind Nigel, some people just always look for a fight, and if ones not there will, then they feel the need to create it.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 06:21 AM

.....and I was just hoping someone, somewhere might still consider me youthful.

Interesting collaboration taking place between some local "CYs" in our part of the world "The Conspirators" and Judy Dyble doing the Fairport song "One Sure Thing"

Be careful with this link, you might hear some indie rock.......

The Conspirators

Variety and all that!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: theleveller
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 08:04 AM

It's bedlam in our house. In one room my 16-year old son is trying to play drums like Joe Jordison; in another me and t'missus are trying to get a cittern and mandolin duet sorted, then 8-year old daughter decides to join in on fiddle or cello. Aaaaaargh! Too many folk - not enough music.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 08:33 AM

Thank you, Nigel, for your apology. Actually, I'm actually not very easily offended but, as 'mattkeen' has noted, I do quite like a good fight now and then (oh, you noticed, did you?).

What tends to make me combative is the too easy acceptance of the status quo. I happen to believe that rock music - especially the all-pervasive CY kind mentioned earlier - has sort of taken over our culture and is stifling innovation and variety in popular music. I think that the culture has now got stuck in a kind of 'rock 'n' roll furrow' (groovy man! - thought that I'd say that before anyone else does!) and not enough people are able to see over the edge.

And, for as long as I can remember, the rockers have been trying to take over folk as well. I think that they should be recognised for what they are and resisted - rather than automatically praised as talented and innovative.

NOTE that I am NOT advocating the imposition of any draconian rules, nor am I suggesting that anyone should be excluded. What I am proposing is that we bring more critical and questioning attitudes to our special kind of music - and to recognise that 'new' can often just mean 'fashionable' and is not necessarily better.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 12:21 PM

Shimrod,

I wouldn't argue with all that you say here...but just as you can't automatically say new (fashionable)= better, you can't automatically say new (fashionable) = bad either.

As for rock being all pervasive ....I think plastic pop bands are much more offensive...at least with CY rock there is often an attempt to be "creative" i.e. songs are often written by the bands rather than with plastic pop where the songs are often covers or written in "hit factories".

Anyway, back to the subject of fine albums this year...I did mention earlier in the thread "One for Sorrow" by Brother Crow.....who are 2 ex CY (used to play rock) saw the (f*lk) light and produced a great "contemporary folk" album....all self written but conjuring up colourful images of folk tales of the Durham Dales. Good singing & playing too.

Take a listen:

Brother Crow

Paul

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: musiknlaw
Date: 02 Nov 07 - 11:12 PM

Try this one: "Taking a Dive (Heart First)"

samples at www.cdbaby.com/cd/peterthompson

Comments from Ralph McTell, Tom Paxton, Bill Staines


Harmonies by Peter Sarstedt

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Stewie
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 03:11 AM

I agree that Martin Simpson's 'Prodigal Son' will take some beating in 2007. I also very much enjoyed this one:

Michael Black.

On the Oz scene, Evan Mathieson's 'Harry's Legacy: Songs by Harry Robertson 1923-1995' is first rate. It is available from Evan and Lyn Mathieson PO Box 21, Donnybrook, Queensland, Australi 4510.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 03 Nov 07 - 05:00 AM

Anyway, Wendy Arrowsmith's album popped through my letterbox yesterday. Only had a chance to listen once so far, but it's getting a definite thumbs up in the Spencer house!

Meanwhile, back to the CYs, I went to see Nancy Elizabeth Cunliffe play last night: excellent stuff - there's a lot to be said for the harp/cello/percussion/andabitacousticguitar led version of callow youthmusic... in fact, her 'Battle & Victory' wins my award for best Green Man Festival-tastic album of the year. Accidently had a pint with her dad in the interval, too...

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Banjiman
Date: 04 Nov 07 - 05:16 PM

....strangely it does in the Arrowsmith household too!

Seriously, Wendy says thank you for your kind words and she is really pleased you are enjoying it.

Paul Arrowsmith

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Nov 07 - 10:24 PM

My last CD came out in 2007.
name: Chicago Town And Points West.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,John
Date: 06 Nov 07 - 04:20 PM

Theres a duo from York called Pillowfish who released a quirky little album called Common Knowledge at the very beginning of 2007.

it's one of those albums that really grows on you - on the first listen i didn't quite take it all in and appreciate it as much as i do now, and it's now rarely out of my CD player. I hear something new every time I lisetn, there are so many layers. I think they're very much underrated, with really sophisticated lyrics, ideas and arrangements and well worth a listen.

If you want to hear something that doesn't sound like anything else that's going on at the moment check them out at http://www.pillowfish.co.uk.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Barry Finn
Date: 06 Nov 07 - 04:50 PM

I just got back from the Getaway & I picked up Elizabeth LaPerelle's newest CD, "Lizard In the Spring" & I gotta tell ya all that it's just gotta be right up there if it isn't the best CD I've come across all year. I'm still getting goosebumps & chills from listening, like someone's walking over my grave. You can hear some of her samples by going to the link.

Barry

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Santa
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 11:03 AM

Following the advice on this thread, I left a short list lying around, and on my birthday came The Imagined Village. I've only had the chance to play it throught once, but it sounds pretty good. Not overly struck with the rewritten Tamlyn - a bit too "worthy", perhaps. Worth playing again soon.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 13 Nov 07 - 07:02 AM

Andi Neate is geting coverage at last. And about time too!
B****r Forgot the name of her latest album. something to do with animals!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 12:54 PM

"Lion Taming for Astronauts"
And she is up for some award as well!!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 08:19 AM

Here's my two penn'orth, kids -

Bellowhead 'Burlesque' ;

'Sweet England', Jim Moray.

Sheer genius, both albums, and that is from one once described as a minuscule-minded traditionalist (remember that one, FolkieDave ?)

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Bainbo
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 08:35 AM

Santa - I know what you mean about Tam Lyn being worthy, but I'd subsitute the word relevant. Instead of being magically turned into various beasts by fairy folk, our protagonist is turned into every negative black stereotype by the press - but is still saved because his woman clings to him and stays true to him. Benjamin Zephaniah says he managed to get a handle on the song when he realised it was about love at first sight.

If you havene't already seen it, this is the video which is projected above the Imagined Village stage show, while the band plays live on the stage. It makes it tremendously powerful, and is the highlight for me.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,cardboard cutout
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 05:34 PM

Are you being ironic, Bryn Pugh? "Sweet England" came out in 2003. "Burlesque" came out in - can't remember, but not this year, surely?

Good choice of albums, glad you discovered them in 2007! Watch out for Jim's 2008 c.d.

Jane, from Briton's Protection c. 1976

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Colin Randall
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 02:15 AM

Among the many suggestions posted here after I started this thread were Duncan McFarlane and Wendy Arrowsmith. As a direct result of this feedback, I have now reviewed both at Salut! Live plus Ruth Notman and Steve Ashley, others that "got away" when I was drawing up my own list of best 10.
These things are only a bit of fun for the most part, and one person's view is no more than that, but I'd certainly find room for the Duncan McF Band's excellent "All Rogues and Villains" and Ruth's "Threads" if compiling the list now. Martin Simpson would still be at the top, though, as he was in mv votes in the fRoots and BBC folk album polls of critics.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: bankley
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 12:02 PM

Steve Earle : "Washington Square Serenade" , not as edgy as his last couple of CDs, but still Earle. The Village seems to agree with him.

Joni Mitchell: "Shine" 'tho I prefer Herbie Hancock's "River: The Joni Letters" released on the same date. Some superb acoustic sounds and vocal interpretations of Ms. Mitchell songs

Lyle Lovett and his large band: "It's Not Big It's Large". covers a lot of territory. Guy Clark featured on one song."South Texas Girl"

Erik Frandsen: :"Antiques, New and Used"...solo voice and guitar. Highly entertaining..

just a few CDs recently added to the pile.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 04:50 PM

Must also give a mention for little known (why I dont Know!)Bob Davidson and his budget CD "Nobby No Mates". An absolute gem. He also has a great little book out. Tales From the Woodshed" or something incredibly funny and available on Amazon.
www.bobdavidson.co.uk

Also Angie Wright and her second solo CD " Captive Heart" well worth hearing and seeing live.
www.sky-web.net/taggartandwright/

Not Too Late for Christmas!!!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Santa
Date: 15 Dec 07 - 06:06 PM

Picked up the Martin Simpson too. I greatly enjoyed this. I was playing it in my wife's presence, and she was getting sniffy on the lines of "No Americans sing pretending they came from Barnsley" but she was silenced by Andrew Lammie and is now planning to add it to her repertoire.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Santa
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 11:22 AM

Bainbo: sorry for not answering sooner. You say "....I'd subsitute the word relevant. Instead of being magically turned into various beasts by fairy folk..."

If being relevant is important, and by your comment I presume you include/mean contemporary, perhaps you could tell me just when being turned into fairy folk actually was relevant or contemporary? The tale is a story, a fable, a fantasy. Perhaps even an allegory, heaven help us. It always has been, and if the audience cannot get the value of the story of innocence, love and holding onto what's true through all the world can throw at you, then they aren't going to get the message in a modern setting either.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Alonzo M. Zilch (inactive)
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 01:14 PM

I gotta go with "My Name Is Buddy" by Ry Cooder as the Folk Album of 2007.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 04:11 AM

My photo album looks good this year!!!

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: bankley
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 09:34 AM

Bruce Cockburn - "Life Short, Call Soon"

Tom Russell - "Wounded Heart of America" , a compilation of Russel songs, mostly performed by other artists, such as Van Ronk, Cash, Ramblin' Jack., Joe Ely, Jerry Jeff Walker and others.

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 09:52 AM

Try listening to Boldwood's 'Feet don't fail me now'- absolutely fabulous dance tunes from England and Wales played faultlessly.
Boldwood's CD
This is MY favourite CD of 2007 without a doubt!
Mary Humphreys

Subject: RE: Folk albums of 2007
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's Apprentice
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 11:14 AM

Raising Sand - Alison Krauss, Robert Plant and T-Bone Burnett

The Mother of All Morris - Various Artists