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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Newport Boy Date: 05 Nov 07 - 03:35 PM Just back from 10 days walking and cycling in Scotland - catching up is taking some time, but I enjoyed this thread. A few snippets of my own: Ebbie (28 Oct) suggested choosing your own time. A great idea - the villagers of Llangennith (Gower, west of Swansea) had the same thought. The extract below phrases the story better than I can. QUOTE Life in such a remote area as Llangennith produced an independent, perhaps arrogant people who considered themselves apart, not only from the rest of the peninsula, but from the rest of Britain as well. During World War I, when the government decided to introduce the daylight saving measure of putting clocks forward an hour during summer months, the villagers here had to hold a public meeting to vote whether they should follow suit. The outcome was that they should, but only on a one month trial. ENDQUOTE Bill D (28 Oct) reports a guy who carried two watches. Reminds me of a programme on Wainwright's books on the Lake District recently. A guy is updating some of the route information. He was interviewed, explaining that he didn't really trust electronics, so carried two identical GPS receivers. When he logged a point, if the two readings agreed, he accepted it as correct, and wrote it in his notebook! The interviewer asked what he would do if the readings disagreed. Easy, he said - I'd get the third GPS out of my pack and check against that. Talk about redundancy! I like the various approximations from Peace - near enough is right! Back in the good old days of DOS, I had a computer technician who wrote a little program to display the time on his PC. He simply typed "TIM" at the prompt, and the computer responded with "It's nearly quarter to one" or "It's just gone four" - in text on screen, of course - no sound then. It was much more human than this digital nonsense. Me? I haven't owned a watch for the last 15 years. Oh, by the way - it's nearly coffee time! Phil |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 30 Oct 07 - 07:27 AM "Of COURSE it is possible to specify to the computer exactly how YOU want it to read!" Back in the days about the time I changed from Win 95 to 98 (well after it had been in!) I found an app somewhere that allowed me to set up 'special' time zones - which I had to do because Brisbane was not one of the Standard Time Zones, in Mickeysoft. Of course now I can't remember anything else about it... :-0 |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: open mike Date: 30 Oct 07 - 02:51 AM http://www.amazon.com/Voices-Time-Julius-Thomas-Fraser/dp/080760318X |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: GUEST Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:40 PM By moving to November, the kiddies will have darkness one hour later. That is one hour less to practice pagan rituals of wickedness. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Bill D Date: 29 Oct 07 - 04:45 PM Well, Susan...the puter DID reset itself yesterday. And today, I got up, sat down, started reading Mudcat & email, and almost missed my Drs. appt. because I'm so used to relying on it. It only took me 1 minute to override that for the rest of this week....now I have to reset the control for what day it does this. Of COURSE it is possible to specify to the computer exactly how YOU want it to read! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: GUEST,Neil D Date: 29 Oct 07 - 12:56 PM Captain Cloud says "Time is a trip man." |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: wysiwyg Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:48 AM Wouldn't it be simplest just to let the puder auto-set the time and live with having it off by an hour, for a week? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Bill D Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:45 AM Indeed, BB! We can saty up till 2AM at the Getaway, go to bed at 1AM and get 'some' sleep before that infernally anal-retentive camp staff serves breakfast on THEIR schedule....for exactly 30 minutes! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 29 Oct 07 - 10:33 AM The New Year will be welcomed in again this year. But maybe not, because really it would be next year. This is very bad for the nerves. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: beardedbruce Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:04 AM The time change was delayed until next weekend in order to increase the available time at the Getaway- not that 25 hours in a day is enough, though. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: topical tom Date: 29 Oct 07 - 09:02 AM Trevor Thomas: WAAAAY COOL! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Trevor Thomas Date: 29 Oct 07 - 08:56 AM Told you! http://www.whattimeisiteccles.com/ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Trevor Thomas Date: 29 Oct 07 - 08:28 AM I know what time it is because I've got it written down on a piece of paper. A nice man wrote it down for me this morning, so if anyone wants to ask me the time, I can show it to them. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: topical tom Date: 29 Oct 07 - 08:11 AM I have to admit to an an obsession. There must be at least 30 clocks and watches of many types in our house!I have this irrational need to know the time at all times. So, for those in search of the time it's now October 29th, 2007 and 8:10 A.M.,no 8:11, no 8:12...Ah screw it! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: aussiebloke Date: 29 Oct 07 - 07:04 AM http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ cheers all aussiebloke |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: GUEST,Ford Prefect Date: 29 Oct 07 - 05:32 AM As I once pointed out to Arthur Dent:- Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so... Don't Panic. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: JennieG Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:21 PM What's this crap about the river Thames? I go by Parramatta River time. Cheers JennieG whose inner biological clock doesn't really like DST...... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Wincing Devil Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:21 PM For a good time, call 202-762-1401 |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM "If I need to know what time it is I just flip open my mobile phone. " Yeah. BUT, what if yer not IN mobile, huh? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:15 PM
Like the children of Israel you have been in bondage to a 666-clock set of the river Thames.
Your existance....becomes YOUR time....there is no anchor....it is continuem.
Sincerly, |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 28 Oct 07 - 10:05 PM If I need to know what time it is I just flip open my mobile phone. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:24 PM And from where I'm posting: My watch says 7:26 PM. The computer says 6:19 PM. The wall clock says 7:22 PM. Another wall clock says it's 7:23 less the two minutes since I checked it which means 7:21, and yet another clock says tick, tick, tick, tick in a ceaseless unrelenting cadence that--back in a minute. INTERVAL OK. The clock don't say nothin' now. CRAP Now the computer clock says it's 6:23 PM. Rather than put you through that again, just add 4 minutes to each of the times above unless you are looking at the one that reqwuired subtraction. AND, regardless what anyone says, it is STILL 2007. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:17 PM OK. For all you people with exact time/watch fetishes: It is the latter part of 2007. The October latter part. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:14 PM It is 2007. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 28 Oct 07 - 09:08 PM We have bi-modal time at our house. Weekdays we go by the official US atomic time clock. Weekends we relax and simply accept that it's latest Upper Pleistocene. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:46 PM Leadfingers - Except that at the moment it's EDT, not EST, isn't it? John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Leadfingers Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:43 PM So all you do is post to the cat , and look at what time it says your post was , and there you have the E S T time ! Or is there something I've missed ? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:42 PM THE FLIPPANT ATTITUDE DISPLAYED BY A NUMBER OF THOSE WHO'VE POSTED HERE BORDERS ON ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOUR. IT IS CRITICAL that the local clock in your computer be ACCURATELY SET in order to communicate with us here at mudcat. Each time you link to the mudcat server, your computer must report its local time, the server calculates the difference between your local time and its own, and that difference is transmitted with each piece of information exchanged by the two computers. Since the "bit count" available for the exchange of the correction/synch factor is limited, any error in your local computer's clock exceeding the maximum interval that can be recorded in the bits available1 will ABSOLUTELY PREVENT the exchange of information necessary for us to receive and see any blatherings you might choose to post, and will ABSOLUTELY PREVENT YOU from benefiting from the erudite exchanges that will occur here in your absence - until such time as an appropriate correction is made in your local clock setting. Note that some other forms of communication are even more critical. At least in the US, each cell phone service has its own "time standard" and will reset your cell phone to match. This is REQUIRED for you to be able to make a call. Checking the time on a cell phone would give you an accurate setting for other devices, if not for the confirmed fact that most cell phone networks use their own time deliberately set several minutes from UMT. Nobody seems to know why they're deliberately wrong; but it probably has something to do with "competitiveness" and "market sharing." 1 bits available will accomodate an error of approximately 80 years (or maybe it was 280 years?) Being in the right century is recommended though. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Bill D Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:11 PM ah, but being the antithesis of a Luddite is my hobby! I am EXPECTED to know the time, and how to get it! There are TV programs I watch which almost require you to see the first minute, and I hate to miss them... My parlor trick is resetting other folks VCRs (the blinking 12:00), without looking at the manual. My one good watch is always within 4-5 seconds of the exact time....which I get from the Atomic clocks by way of the computer. But....I also can estimate time pretty well. When I was in 7th & 8th grade, I used to count the seconds between classes until I had calibrated my brain. The side effect is, I HATE it when someone says "I'll be back in 20 minutes." and has NO idea how lonk his task/trip etc., will take. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: bobad Date: 28 Oct 07 - 07:01 PM I have never worn a watch and have become quite adept at estimating the time. "it too me forever (+ or - a few eons) to re-set all the digital gadgets!)" I feign ignorance and get the loving wife to do it. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Bill D Date: 28 Oct 07 - 06:46 PM I got a good watch..I always know what time it is. I know a feller who has TWO watches....he's never sure. (our power went off for about an hour yesterday...it too me forever (+ or - a few eons) to re-set all the digital gadgets!) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 06:02 PM Yeah! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: bobad Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:53 PM It doesn't really matter because "the times, they are a changin'." |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:48 PM OK. Lemme see if I actually have this right. No one here actually knows what the actual time actually is, right? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:42 PM Assuming that your computer is running a supported version of Windows you can get all the poop on updating as required so that your computer will automatically accomodate the changes. The updated procedure is much simpler than the previous instructions, so checking things out should be fairly painless. Daylight Saving Time Help and Support Center has a step-by-step process for determining whether you need a patch, downloading it, and installing so that you'll be fully automated. There is a separate link at the first oro second step (of several) for people in "oddish time warps" in countries that "follow deviant practices." This is for those who change times differently, not for those other things that are innocent but unusual features of national cultures. IF YOU USE Outlook, you also need a separate patch to keep it's calendar in synch. The Outlook patch is available at the same link. (It's possible that you may have other (non-Mickey) programs that need an update, but those will have to be handled separately. Anything with a calendar and/or "scheduling features" might be suspect.) Win98 and WinME users are S.O.L., as these are "out of support," but Win2K and WinXP, if current, are still supported (to the extent anything Microsoft is). Vista doesn't need a patch (for this). John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Nick Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:29 PM Nistime will adjust you to fractions of a second |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Ebbie Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:28 PM hahahha Bainbo. That's funny. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: michaelr Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:19 PM Thanks, Joe! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Bainbo Date: 28 Oct 07 - 05:17 PM No, no, you're all being far too complicated. Click here for a blindingly obvious way of telling time, piloted in the 1950s. (This was done for the radio, and in my opinion the visuals which have been put on are just distracting. It may be better to set it going and then close your eyes.) |
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Subject: ADDPOP: Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:57 PM I think we need the whole shebang:
Chicago As I was walking down the street one day A man came up to me and asked me what the time was that was on my watch, yeah And I said Does anybody really know what time it is I don't Does anybody really care care If so I can't imagine why about time We've all got time enough to cry Oh no, no And I was walking down the street one day A pretty lady looked at me and said her diamond watch had stopped cold dead And I said Does anybody really know what time it is I don't Does anybody really care care If so I can't imagine why about time We've all got time enough to cry Oh no, no And I was walking down the street one day Being pushed and shoved by people trying to beat the clock, oh, so I just don't know, I just don't know And I said, yes I said Background Vocal: People runnin' everywhere Don't know the way to go Don't know where I am Can't see past the next step Don't have to think past the last mile Have no time to look around Just run around, run around and think why Does anybody really know what time it is I don't Does anybody really care care If so I can't imagine why about time We've all got time enough to die Oh no, no Source: Lyrics World (a really good place for pop lyrics) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Ebbie Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:56 PM Just hang tough for a week, MichaelR and then all will be well. If one really does object to DST and its ramifications, it's not that difficult to keep one's clocks at the same setting year 'round and just make allowances for other people. For instance, if your office opens at 8:00, remind yourself that it's really 7:00 (or 9:00, depending on the time of year) and plan accordingly. I don't have any particular feelings about the matter, pro or con. Since time as we know it is arbitrary, the powers that be - or any individual household - could decide that the day begins at 3:00 AM or PM, for that matter, and squirrel it around to suit themselves. So count yourself lucky that people have agreed upon a method. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:54 PM Neat link from Joe. You can find out what time it is in your atoms. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:53 PM AND it's late October. It was simply fortituitous/fourtooitus/foretewitous lucky I knew that. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: artbrooks Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:53 PM A few decades ago, I think..... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:52 PM For the official time in the U.S., Google atomic clock or go to http://www.time.gov/. Sorry, I don't know what time it is in Canada....
Does anybody really care? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:50 PM LOL GMT OK. Stay with me. It's 2007. That's as accurate as I ever need to be. I will send a message to you when it's 2008. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: michaelr Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:44 PM Old Timex, good idea. Same problem though: What do I set it to? Maybe I'll google "time". |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:37 PM History of DST here. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Peace Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:35 PM PLEASE NOTE: This is a great time to replace batteries in CO2 and Smoke Alarms. If your place is hard-wired, test them. (If your system triggers a response from an Alarm company, let them know first or you will end up with fire trucks and firefighters at your door.) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: I don't know what time it is From: Shaneo Date: 28 Oct 07 - 04:30 PM Just a query, when did the clocks start going forward/backwards. Was it in the late 60s ? If anybody knows then can you say was it put forward first or back, Just so we know the real time, so to speak. |
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