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Amy Winehouse, what a waste?

Richard Bridge 10 Nov 07 - 01:21 PM
John MacKenzie 10 Nov 07 - 01:49 PM
greg stephens 10 Nov 07 - 02:01 PM
RTim 10 Nov 07 - 02:40 PM
John MacKenzie 10 Nov 07 - 02:41 PM
Leadbelly 10 Nov 07 - 02:47 PM
Peace 10 Nov 07 - 02:54 PM
Peace 10 Nov 07 - 02:57 PM
Jean(eanjay) 10 Nov 07 - 03:03 PM
redsnapper 10 Nov 07 - 03:13 PM
Lonesome EJ 10 Nov 07 - 03:27 PM
Richard Bridge 10 Nov 07 - 03:30 PM
GUEST,a casual bystander 10 Nov 07 - 03:31 PM
number 6 10 Nov 07 - 03:36 PM
Peace 10 Nov 07 - 04:27 PM
Jean(eanjay) 10 Nov 07 - 04:33 PM
Peace 10 Nov 07 - 04:35 PM
Peace 10 Nov 07 - 04:39 PM
Jean(eanjay) 10 Nov 07 - 04:48 PM
Jean(eanjay) 10 Nov 07 - 04:50 PM
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GUEST,Tunesmith 10 Nov 07 - 04:57 PM
Peace 10 Nov 07 - 04:58 PM
Jean(eanjay) 10 Nov 07 - 05:02 PM
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GUEST,Jezthekipper 10 Nov 07 - 05:10 PM
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Subject: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 01:21 PM

Hmm. I wouldn't go to one of her gigs - but then I wouldn't even if she did not have a substance situation....

Wht was it her mother said? "If the record label dropped her then she would not be able to afford her habit".

And come to think of it - Docherty - what did he ever do for music?


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 01:49 PM

Aye well her husband was remanded in custody today, charged with perverting the course of justice, and guess which lead singer from the group Babyshambles was in court to observe?
Turds of a feather, and all that.
G


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:01 PM

Well, I went to see Amy Winhouse, and I thought she was jolly good. Especially the hair-style. Sure, she leads an irregular life. Well, so did Leadbelly.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: RTim
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:40 PM

Who the hell is Amy Winehouse?

Showing his ignorance!! - Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:41 PM

A poor sad individual who can't cope with life, or success.
G


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Leadbelly
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:47 PM

Greg: "Well, so did Leadbelly."

This might be. But she's a woman.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:54 PM

I just heard 9.3 seconds of her on YOUTUBE.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 02:57 PM

With age I can't quite click as quick or it would have been 3.6 seconds.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:03 PM

I enjoy listening to Amy Winehouse and even more I enjoy watching her sing - she's interesting. I haven't seen her live.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: redsnapper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:13 PM

Her private life seems an unfortunate mess but I think she has considerable talent.

RS


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:27 PM

Talented. Self-destructive. Low self-image. If she's alive this time next year, I'll be surprised.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:30 PM

Is she talented? Is Docherty? I think that is the big difference, that some have the genius, and many others only the appetites.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,a casual bystander
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:31 PM

A mousey whine?
A wee noisy hum?
Ahem, you swine! You wish enema?


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: number 6
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 03:36 PM

She's one hell of a talented singer.

Your right, what a waste of talent.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:27 PM

The YOUTUBE piece was horrible.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:33 PM

Peace, I think I've just found the piece you must have listened to:)

Try a different site. She is talented.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:35 PM

Thanks. I will go look then.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:39 PM

That one was, too. Eanjay, would you aim me at one that you like?


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:48 PM

try here


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:50 PM

I like quite a lot of what she does - but definitely not the youtube one!


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:51 PM

Perhpas that is what Richard was meaning when he started this thread.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:52 PM

perhaps


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:57 PM

By what standards is she talented? I believe that she is a big fan of Dinah Washington. Now that's what I call talent!


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 04:58 PM

I heard the link you gave, Eanjay. Sad to hear the differences.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:02 PM

It is isn't it?


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:08 PM

By what standards is she talented?

By her peers, other musicians. I suppose a lot comes down to personal taste.

There is no doubt that Dinah Washington is talented.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Jezthekipper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:10 PM

Reasonable voice, ugly as a jail door, dreadful songs, knows how to court publicity though, but is a lousy example/role model for young people. On the other hand, Pete Doherty's just a waste of oxygen..

Love the anagrams :-)


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: number 6
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:16 PM

"lousy example/role model for young people"

so were Chet Baker, Charlie Parker, Lenny Breau (just to name a few).

biLL


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Jezthekipper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:20 PM

They didn't revel in it and use their bad habits for publicity.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:29 PM

We should not judge musicians on their appearances.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:33 PM

On the other hand, I have been very unimpressed by Beth Ditto's singing...


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Jezthekipper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:36 PM

Quite right too, but I wasn't doing. Her lack of talent has nothing whatsoever to do with her ugliness.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: number 6
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:37 PM

The press, the record company, the hypocritical finger pointing public are just as guilty on playing up her addiction.

Regardless, when you scrape away all the (tragic) addiction, underneath it all this very young woman has talent .... but again, what waste.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Jezthekipper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 05:54 PM

Yes, it's a terrible waste, and you're probably right about the record company and press, but the public are only being manipulated by them - that's how it works. That's why she's being talked about on here. I still don't think she has the talent to merit the attention she gets, although that is obviously subjective.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: number 6
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 06:07 PM

"but the public are only being manipulated by them"

Your right on the point with that Jez. The talent bit, i think this girl has a lot of soul in her voice, but then as you say it is all subjective.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Jezthekipper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 06:38 PM

She's got a good voice, I just don't particularly like what she does with it. It'd be a boring world if we all liked the same stuff, and besides, if that were the case, how could I then have superior tastes? :-)


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: shepherdlass
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 06:52 PM

Interesting singer, interesting songs, interesting image (which I've only raised because it's already been made an issue in this thread) .... Role model? Since when did we judge musicians on their suitability as role models? From Schubert to Billie Holiday to Jimi Hendrix there've always been those who are mad, bad and dangerous to know ... where's the problem? Surely only the very deluded think that aping the dangerous lifestyle of a "difficult" star will make them just as talented?

The really bad role models are the likes of Victoria Beckham, whose success can really convince young women that all you need in life is an eating disorder, a lot of cosmetic surgery and an equally rich and famous husband - no talent or real effort required.

I say good luck to Amy W - hope she kicks the habit before it kicks her.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,Jezthekipper
Date: 10 Nov 07 - 11:58 PM

"From Schubert to Billie Holiday to Jimi Hendrix there've always been those who are mad, bad and dangerous to know ... where's the problem?"

The problem is that they didn't use their bad habits to gain publicity, and they had infinitely more talent.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 12:41 AM

30 odd years ago when i was 18..

i had a girlfriend a bit like her..

lost touch when i moved up north to be a student and become a folkie..

first time now i thought about her for years..

dont even know if she still alive..


sad..


hope amy gets her life in order
and survives to be the mature talent
she deserves to be 30 years from now...


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Brakn
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 03:02 AM

What she does is easy listening but hardly ground breaking. Reminds me of poor Northern Soul. Hope she gets better.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: van lingle
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 07:48 AM

Those myspace clips are great, thanks for the link, eanjay. Her stuff sounds like a welcome change from the dreck that's being   labeled pop nowadays and, apropos of nothing, she appears to be quite attractive.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: goatfell
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 08:01 AM

WHO ARE THEY?


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 06:42 PM

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/02/22/amy-winehouse-to-be-reclassified-as-class-b-celebrity/


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: alanabit
Date: 01 Mar 10 - 11:58 PM

A passable story to read over the toast and cornflakes, but it distracted me from other important stories, such as "Bus Driver Looked at Girl in Short Skirt" and "Labrador Barked at Postman"...


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 10:45 AM

Not as good as "Jamie Oliver feeds 5000 for a fiver"...


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 05:38 PM

So many talented people are on the circle that Amy's on. I feel really sorry for her. I happen to think she's got an incredible voice.

But only she can pull herself out of all this. Only Amy can change her world for the better, and she has to **want** and decide to do that in the first place. Everyone else can only help as best they can, but without her input things ain't going to get better.


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: Alan Day
Date: 02 Mar 10 - 06:29 PM

A few years ago Amy appeared with Jules Holland and his band on Hootenany New Years Eve. She was brilliant a real star. I saw her recently in a Music Festival ,she was singing out of tune and in a mess. I agree with the thread title. It would appear that she cannot cope with the pressure. If it is just publicity then it isn't working. A great shame, but I wish her well and hopefully wait for her to recover from her current crazy lifestyle.A great talent in limbo.
Al


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Subject: RE: Amy Winehouse, what a waste?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Mar 10 - 08:24 AM

Jools Holland


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