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Living on the Road

coldjam 14 Nov 07 - 01:19 PM
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coldjam 14 Nov 07 - 06:33 PM
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Janie 15 Nov 07 - 01:43 AM
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Subject: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 01:19 PM

We just recently sold, pitched, and gave away most everything we acquired over the last 14 years, packed what was left, and put it in storage with some friends. We didn't own the house we were living in, so we are free (to say the least) to pursue the old folky dream to go, "All gone to look for America."

Anyone else doing that right now? Or done it in the past? It's been easier in some ways and harder in others than we thought. Having taken some shorter trips, and also travelled across country in '90 (that's 19 not 18!) with 4 kids in a trailer, we had a pretty good idea of what to expect trip wise, but playing music and booking and keeping the chops up is a different story! And of course everything is easier physically at 25 than at, well, our age.

Love some input!
Judy


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 03:35 PM

Wow - it sounds like a lot of fun - best of luck to you. Will you be traveling in a trailer? I think Allen C did this for a while. I hope he checks in.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 03:54 PM

I hope that you have WiFi enabled computer facilities , so you can keep us all informed of progress - AND of course , to set up meetings with Catters as you travel around !


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Beer
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 04:29 PM

On the road where and to where? Children as well?
Curious.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Ythanside
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 05:37 PM

Please keep a diary, written or audio-visual, it could be a best-seller not only with folkies but also several million job-trapped dreamers who wish they had the option/daring/guts to do the same as yourselves.
The crowd here send heartfelt if slightly envious best wishes, and hope that you will keep Mudcat up to date with the trip.
Cheers,
Ythanside


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 06:33 PM

Thanks for the encouragement. I am keeping a little diary, in the way of letters to friends, but now I think I should be a little more detailed about it.

We headed out with a conversion van that we took the tiny little electric seat/bed and two back captains chairs out of. My husband ingeniously took a army bunk bed we had apart and cut the legs down so he can sit on it and not hit his head. Our mattress is on it and it has storage underneath.So we have a full sized bed. We have our own porta-potti and a huge cabin tent and camping gear for when we want to set up camp. We are also pulling a truck-bed trailer with a topper on it for most of our stuff.

We do have a mac that allows for wi-fi, but find just using the amazing libraries of America just as easy sometimes.

One of our biggest problems is the van doesn't have a working ciggerette lighter, but we plan to get an inverter when we can afford to. We really are doing this on the money we make as we go, there is very little (NONE!) safety net. Exciting, and scary as hell!

No kids this time.(Oh yeah!) Just the two of us. We started in Northern Michigan and are working our way to Florida. We've hit Indiana, Chicago area Illinois, Nashville and now we're in the Atlanta Georgia area. Any catters here?

We're staying with one of our kids till we head off for Florida. (Gotta say, love that private indoor plumbing!)
Judy


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 06:48 PM

Judy, next time you see a PA map, look in the north central area for where 6 & 15 cross. If you get up this way, there are beds, showers, laundry machines, cats, and dogs here for your convenience. There's a tiny folk venue nearby if you can send me a press kit with sample CD to give them. In fact, if you are interested in a housesitting stint here in late July-mid August, you can have OUR room in exhange for letting the dogs out each day and throwing some critter food around!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:18 PM

We will definitely have to talk Susan! Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:34 PM

Spencer Bohren and his wife, Marilyn, did it for seven years in an old Chevy with an Airstream and kids. You can read about HERE.

Good luck to you. If you ever get on I70 through western Colorado come by for the indoor plumbing, some amazing vistas, and several venues, although I don't have any contact with them, just know of them.

kat


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:42 PM

Thanks Kat. Having grown up in the west, I miss it! One of my daughters lives in Eugene Oregon, so maybe some year we'll be headed that way!


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:47 PM

That Stephen Bohren link was very cool! Do you know him Kat? Does he come here ever?


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:48 PM

You are most welcome. I admire your courage.

There are several Mudcatters in the Northwest, too.:-)


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Janie
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 07:49 PM

I've done something similar, but it was years ago.

Have a grand time. Hope the rise in oil prices doesn't break the bank.

Remember that Motel 6 is your friend when you just have to have a real bed and a real shower every now and then, or it has been raining for 5 days straight (not likely to happen in the East this year!)

Janie


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 08:25 PM

Bumping for Severn


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Art Thieme
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 10:28 PM

We did it in 1967. Left Chicago behind. Traveled in a VW bus the first 3 years we were married. Settled ultimately in Depoe Bay, Oregon where we opened our FOLK ART SHOP on coast highway 101. The town was 25 years away from the condominiums then. No stoplights in town. But it had a Chinese restaurant---run by Mr. Lee--a retired actor who played the doctor attending Yul Brynner in the death scene in the film THE KING AND I. Also, the condominiums hadn't found it yet. We loved the Oregon coast and were based out of there for nearly two years before we went broke. We then went back to Chicago where being a folksinger was at least a possibility. I always figured that I sort of "retired first!!" We're both too ill and out of it to retire meaningfully now---so it's a good thing we spent my small inheritance "irresponsibly"--as older folks always said. But gas was thirty cents a gallon then----so what the hell. It was a glorious time and I'll always be glad we did it that way -- and got to camp out in about 45 different states. We climbed the mountains and walked the trails when we had the energy to do it.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 10:49 PM

We took to the road in 1991, IIRC, and drove our Chevy Van camper with portapotti, stove and minifrige, chuck full to the brim with clothes instruments and some tools, and our tow-headed beautiful daughter Barky. We crossed America from San Diego to Santa Fe, across Iowa, stopping in KOA's and cooking on a grill outside the van. We went up to Vermont, up to Portland, down tot he Florida Keys, back across Texas, and a dozen other waypoints, and finally crossed into Mexico in Bisby, Arizona. We rambled down Mexico 1 down the coast and then over to Gudalajara, set up house in a rented stone cottage out in a little town called Santa Maria de Tequipexpan, and lived there for a year making forays into various parts of Mexico. We finally came back across to Gringolandia at Laredo, and found our way back to San Diego and re-started our lives here.

That was 17 or so years back and we have never forgotten the pleasure of that expedition.

A


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: number 6
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 11:44 PM

"on the road"

Ann and I took a couple of months off back in 1988. Bought an open topped Jeep Wrangler (back when Jeeps were Jeeps). Headed down to New Orleans via Highway 61. Right down through the heart of Mississippi. Swayed over to East Texas for a bit. Stayed in Vicksburg for a while, the French Quarter, and Biloxi (back before the casinos took over).

It was one memorable trip. I'm certainly glad we did it.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: michaelr
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 01:27 AM

Living on the road, my friend
Was gonna keep you free and clean


Townes Van Zandt, "Poncho and Lefty"


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Janie
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 01:43 AM

We had to schedule stuff so tightly, to bring in the bucks to keep us on the road, that it took a lot of the fun out of it. No time to explore, gotta be xxx by tomorrow night for whatever the next gig was. Took a lot of the fun out of it.

I wanna try it again within the next 5 years, before my boy turns 18, without the deadlines.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: open mike
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 02:59 AM

If you make it out to California you could camp out here..
lots of elbow room here on 50 acres in the mountains.

Also if you do have internet access, you might consider a My Space
or a Blog to report about your travels and adventures. I have
heard of such a trip travelogue by a band called Cow Bop with
Bruce Forman. try this link...http://www.wayoutwestmusic.com/

i also used to know some fellows who travelled in a motor home
and published a travel magazine on board their R.V. (Monk Magazine...)


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 04:23 AM

I think its a wondersul idea, and I feel sure you will never regret it.   Its little acts of individual bravery and determination, like yours, that give us some hope for humanity.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Folkiedave
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 10:04 AM

One of Sheffield's long standing folkies Pete Smith is travelling to Australia from the UK and is then continuing via Australia and New Zealand to the USA and back to the UK taking around nine months.

Did I mention the first part of the trip to Australia is by bus overland from the UK? And they are through the dangerous part. Beware it is a little bit out-of-date. Internet connections are not of the best where he is!!

You can read his diaries and his motivation here.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Mark Ross
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:21 AM

If you get to Eugene let me know, I would love to meet some fellow 'Catters.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Midchuck
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 11:47 AM

I want to do this.

Every time I say so to my wife, she curses me for a fool.

Other than that, we get along too well for me to take off. That's the breaks. I'll continue to work on her.

Of course, there's our "second family" to think of. Four cats in a van is little scary. And then we need room for at least a dozen or so instruments and several hundred books...Maybe she's right.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 12:21 PM

...but now, you wear your skin like iron
And your breath, it smells like kerosene!


Ibid.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: GUEST,Mad Jock
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 01:00 PM

As the car sticker says







"Old Age Travellers".


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 02:31 PM

So you guys who HAVE done this (jamie, art, number6,amos) have any advice?

We have found that side trips are out at the moment-due to gas prices mostly. So we try to schedule stuff on our way.

Dealing with the clothes,instruments, food/kitchen, cleanliness issues keeps us busier than I thought it would. I suppose if you could buy expensive prepared foods and stay in motels or even campgrounds a lot, it would be less of a problem. But it still takes time and effort and you better put stuff away right now instead of later!

Thanks open mike for the offer. It would be cool one day to take everyone up on their offers and cross the country west again...ok, back to the phone and booking efforts!

Judy


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 03:20 PM

My dad and mom did it in the oilfields for several years, then he continued to do until retirement when he settled down into a house with his second wife. They had a dog, always, and a cat a lot of the time. The travel trailer had "facilities" which made it a lot easier, I am sure.

I know my Rog wants to do this; he wants to take me to all of the Mudcatters' places in North America and I would love to, but I have to have some comforts AND there's the two cats, the dog would be no problem. Then there's the grandson I cannot possibly leave until maybe he's a little older. And, we'd have to sell our house or let it in order to afford the going, which would mean a bigger storage shed to put everything in.

Rog's big dream is to start our own chain of "Mudcat Cafe RV Park, Bar & Grill," kind of like our own version of "Hardrock Cafe," each one with a Mudcatter in charge and those who travel in can pick-sing-play for their supper, so to speak. His plans for same are enhanced each time he waxes poetic about it! (UKers - caravans would be welcome:-)

I'd like to just do it a couple of months at a time, I think.:-)


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 03:51 PM

Remember KOAs -- they are much cheaper than motels, or were when we were on the road -- and other campgrounds, too. KOAs almost always have a decent hot shower available, laundry facilities, and suchlike.

There are lots of places in a good sized town -- YMCAs, for example -- that offer civilization to the traveler for less than motels. Youth hostels, etc. This is worth some internet research to find out what present options exist. There is also a network of couch-sharers out there on the internet who offer their couches to those passing through their cities and are offered others' couches in return for their own travels, an informal support network for youthful travelers into which you might tap.


A


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:10 PM

Some friends of mine left Evergreen Colorado four years ago to make a living on the road as a traveling bluegrass band, a lifelong dream for Dan and his wife. See them at a folk venue near you!


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:20 PM

PS, review old thread about Boondocking for others' practical ideas.

But don't live ON the road-- pull over! :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 07:14 PM

I forgot to tell of the time during those 3 years we tried heading for Alaska on the old Alaska Highway---a dirt road from N. of Dawson Creek. To shorten the tale, we had a grand time in Western Canada. Breathtaking. We chose to travel, whenever we could arrange it, after school had started --- to lessen traffic hangups and chaos in canping areas.---That meant going in September. The aspens were glowing!! I think we were a bit late in the year for that far north though. We had a few troubles. First, we blew two of the ol' bus's four cylinders and couldn't afford to fix it, so we adjusted by not going over 40 miles an hour. Slowed us down, but it was just plain lovely. A beautiful snowfall hit the same night the car got lame. Camping out in that snowstorm---our son, Chris, was conceived. (Born the next June 4th, 1970.) So we were kept quite warm in the snow. North of White Horse somewhere, we decided we weren't gonna make it to Alaska that way. So we turned around and headed south---going on the shoulder to get up every hill---------and then coasting downhill. That's how we got back to Chicago eventually---45 miles per hour all the way except for coasting down at up to 75 or 80 mph.

Sure, stuff happens, but I was 25 years old and life was easy.

As ED Denson said in his old motto for Kicking Mule Records, "It's easy to be easy when you're easy!"

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 09:13 PM

Ya know, if we were Bluegrass (and not half bad) we could be playing (for money) a LOT more than we are.It's just not what we do. There aren't a lot of folk venues out there. Sure lots of open mics (my tirade about that later) and some coffee houses that will let you play to 6 people for free, but try to tell em you're not really a singer/songwriter or Bluegrass and see their eyes glaze over. "Folk music? So you sing 'she'll be comin' round the mountain' and like that?")

We've learned to go for events, but you need some advance time to set them up. Slow but we're gaining on it...

KOA is a good idea. I'm trying to find Campgrounds that host Good Sam members to exchange space rent for entertainment at the moment.Maybe I'll try a KOA or two and see if they are open to it.

Tired to connect to youth hostels with no avail! YMCA is a definite possibility. Saw one in Nashville and thought about it, but we had a place to stay there (daughter).

Art your story gives me hope. We drive about 60 tops. We get passed a lot and are very often in a pocket void of other drivers, and that's where we get our best mileage.

We coulda spent a year preparing and researching but it didn't work out that way, so we're learning on the fly and on the cheap. Hopefully make a good story at least!


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 09:26 PM

How about getting a book agent? Would that be of any use/help?

There's a good hostel in Glenwood Springs, that I know of..not youth, it's for anybody.

Would it be helpful if those of us who know of some venues, send you the information or post if, here?

I forgot to check, do you have sound samples on your website?

What about getting into play in schools? Wilson and McKee, a couple I know of, have made a good living of that for years.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 09:41 PM

Hostels in the US

Hostels USA

Hostel Listings, USA and Canada

Hope these are useful.


A


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 16 Nov 07 - 11:45 AM

Thanks guys. Amos, I will try the hostel thing again. In the past year I have emailed and tried to call-- nada.

Oh yeah, a booking agent would be heaven. I tried a local one up north, and got more (read "the only") gigs myself. I had already worked and knew the territory better than the booker, who was busy with her boyfriend & brother's acts. Plus I can represent us the best really. We're a bit difficult to nail labelwise for some reason. Seems the bigger ones want you to have a name already that they can sell around...but if you know of any booking agents, we're sure open to it! A good indie agent is desparately needed at this level.

Venues are ALWAYS welcome Kat. For that matter, we always try to share the venues we've found with anyone who's interested.(Just ask!) It's not a competition to us, and venues (usually) like different acts coming through.

We do have sound samples on our site. Our site click on music (oddly enuf!)I'm even working on an epk page so bookers that are too busy to look at our website only have to go to one page.I still have to get video and sound to it tho.

One of my biggest complaints is bookers who string you along for months and then turn you down for one reason or another that they could easily have told you the first time. Don't know if it's just a power trip...but that's probably for another thread!

This weekend we have two real gigs north of Atlanta; sent the promo material ahead and prayed! Hopefully someone will turn out!


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: open mike
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 12:15 AM

Mckinney Washtub Two
fixed link...you need to add "Http" or els the system automatically
puts the mud cat URL in front of yours..try this one.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 12:28 AM

Wow, you've got some great stuff on there! Thanks for sharing.

I'll scare up some venue ideas for you and post them here. Might take a day or two or more. We've got a grandson's b-day party this weekend.:-)


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Janie
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 11:11 AM

Coldjam,

Sounds like you are doing it on near the same scale that we did, and on a similar budget! Except we stayed in the East. We ate healthy and cheap, but boy was it boring! Lots of cabbage, carrots, apples and citrus, all of which keep well, chunks of cheese, and hard whole wheat or rye crackers. Lots of mustard, because it does ok without refrigeration also. Cold cereal with a banana and canned milk diluted with water. We did away with the Coleman campstove. Instead we got a single burner that screws directly onto a propane bottle. Canned beans, corn and the like with wild greens, garlic, onions tossed in, pasta, rice, oatmeal with chopped apples. The rule was, if it had to be cooked, it had to all go in the same pot or ten inch skillet.

Although we occasionally stopped at a cheap motel for a break when the weather had been bad for a long stretch, or with friends along the way, we mostly slept in parking lots in urban areas. In rural areas, especially in mountain or hill country, or in the swamp areas along the coast, we'd find some little holler along a creek to pull into. (We weren't pulling a trailer and were in a 4 wheel drive 3/4 ton truck.)    Truck stops and community recreation centers usually have showers, but we mostly we just accepted that we were going to look somewhat 'disreputable.'   We carried a small plastic dishpan dedicated to daily cold sponge baths, and took a lot of cold baths in creeks and farm ponds. If I were to do it again I would probably cut my hair very short. As it was, I kept it pulled tightly back or kept it covered with a cap. A daily shampoo was out of the question. Early on I realized that heating water for daily ablutions was not going to be a realistic option for the most part.

We travelled with two well-trained, rather large dogs, hound/lab mixes. While this imposed some real constraints, it was worth it. In rough areas, usually urban, they definitely enhanced our safety. In other situations, where we ourselves might otherwise be perceived as threatening, or at least as an extremely undesirable presence, having the dogs with us seemed to reassure people that we were not what we otherwise appeared to be - homeless vagabonds. Occasionally, some one would call police to investigate our presence, or they would check us out on their own. And occasionally we would be asked to move on - but not posthaste. The dogs seemed to lend us credibility. Social conditions have changed a good bit since. I don't know if we would be as tolerated in parking lots or on urban streets as we were then.

We weren't musicians, we were doing craft shows, powwows, medicine wheel gatherings, etc. That meant we could usually set up a two or three day camp on the grounds most weekends. During the week, we'd stop at rest stops, roadside or municipal parks - any place with a picnic area - for our main meal and to clean up. All dirty dishes went into a meshbag, and were washed once a day.

Before we left, we scoped out all national and state forest and recreation areas that we would be going near, and ordered topos of same to get a good idea of where we might hole-up periodically. In the mountains of the southeast, there are many old logging roads and it is easy to 'hide out' if you have 4 wheel drive.

It was not always fun. Travelling without a bankroll and paying for it as you go can be pretty stressful and restrict your options in a much different way from planning a long trip with a pre-known, limited budget.   But it was quite an adventure, and we learned a lot. (Saw a bumper-sticker the other day that said "Oh No, not another learning experience!)

My partner had lived for three years in a canvas wall tent in the woods in WV so already knew a lot about living comfortably in the out-of-doors. Even so, we shed a lot of gear along the way that we initially thought was 'must have.'   Who wants to spend so much time loading and unloading - packing and repacking? We did enough of that setting up and tearing down the booth - (and we also greatly parsed that bit over time.)


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Janie
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 11:20 AM

You may have already considered this. Pick a region you would like to explore. Identify a good place for a base camp of 2 to 3 weeks duration. Book a number of gigs within, say, a 50 mile radius of the base camp. Between gigs, explore with bicycles, mass transit, hiking, etc.


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 02:37 PM

Thanks Janie, good solid advice. We have learned some of the same things.We keep the food simple. We also have this really cool gadget my husband knew about it...a little folding sterno stove. (He was a marine so he is pretty good in the camping dept.) We occasionally use MREs when we want hot and quick food as we go.We try to eat healthy and as much fresh stuff as we go as we can afford.

One of the great things about "now" is you are actually welcome to park at Walmarts (no endorsement implied or intended!) as well as Meier's and Walgreens, and Rite Aid I believe. We also have no problem with large truck stops/plazas, and they have showers for sale if you need 'em. We've used Walmart, a state park, onsite gig camping, and family and friends, this trip...so far. It's getting cold here in Georgia at night, almost time to head to Florida.

Can't do the dog thing, though I can see where it would come in handy making friends, and they make a great alarm system.

I do tend toward looking alternative (in an old folkie way) but I try to look very middle-class when we travel, strictly for the respect and help it gets us. We got pulled over by a cop the other nite and he was actually polite and friendly and didn't even ask for registration and all after he got a look at us. I think he was thrilled we weren't crazed van-livin' hippies! (lol!)

My daughter was pretty dismayed to think about her folks "livin' in a van down by the river" til she got a look at the set-sup when we came to visit. She and her friends were a little envious, and kept saying THEY wanted to do this!

Thanks openmike for the link, and Kat, any lead would be greatly appreciated!

p.s. our Northern Georgia gigs went great this past weekend! Times like that make it all worthwhile!


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Fidjit
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 06:20 AM

Did that in the late sixties early seveties.
Slept in a van. They called us Hippies. Remember?

Still do it for the festival run for a month or so each year.
Then theres the odd week-end too.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: fat B****rd
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 06:46 AM

All the best to you and yours.
From slightly Green-eye fB


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 06:59 PM

Well we are going on almost two years in Sept and have learned a lot!We still spend almost 24/7 "in arms reach of each other" and are still married!:) So I feel pretty good about that!

Our daughter decided to get married in Eugene,Or., so we wound up booking our way there. Sorry Mike Ross, I forgot to look back here before we headed out or we coulda met up. Ack. But it does throw you off your stride booking and traveling waaaay out of your regular field that you've been plowing and tending.But we did alright...much better than last year. If you're interested you can read a condensed version on our website

Oregon was just fantastic, as was Yellowstone. We have this last year stopped a few times to smell the roses and drink the wine,(and eat the mexican food!) so it was a better all round.

We have jettisoned more stuff and upgraded some. We even got a new old van (88 chevy) with what I refer to as "cathedral ceilings". Extended roof and a TV up above over and behind the front seats.
Life is good!

Anybody else take the plunge?
Judy


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:58 PM

Hellllooooo. Anybody out there?Major Tom to ground control...


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 08:07 PM

Judy - Nice to hear from you again ! Glad you are still (Apparently) enjoying things !


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From: coldjam
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 08:09 PM


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 10:08 PM

I have to say I am impressed, Judy!! Congratulations on your survival!!


A


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 06:40 AM

it was fascinating to read this "old" thread & blog & see that you're still on the road. I loved the page on your name changes.

Living your dream in a small, eternally moving space with another person, definitely deserves praise - so congratulations from me, too.   

sandra


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Subject: RE: Living on the Road
From: coldjam
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 09:22 PM

Thanks. Yes. I am a SURVIVER! :) The van does seem to close in on one every once in while...


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