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Help needed to identify a morris side

skipy 18 Nov 07 - 12:12 PM
Mikefule 18 Nov 07 - 12:17 PM
GUEST,baz parkes 18 Nov 07 - 12:20 PM
Richard Bridge 18 Nov 07 - 12:27 PM
GUEST 18 Nov 07 - 12:34 PM
Emma B 18 Nov 07 - 12:37 PM
skipy 18 Nov 07 - 01:23 PM
gnomad 18 Nov 07 - 01:34 PM
skipy 18 Nov 07 - 01:38 PM
Liz the Squeak 18 Nov 07 - 02:16 PM
Fidjit 18 Nov 07 - 02:23 PM
Malcolm Douglas 18 Nov 07 - 02:25 PM
Richard Bridge 18 Nov 07 - 04:55 PM
Liz the Squeak 18 Nov 07 - 05:10 PM
skipy 18 Nov 07 - 05:47 PM
Fidjit 18 Nov 07 - 06:15 PM
Herga Kitty 18 Nov 07 - 06:34 PM
Dick The Box 19 Nov 07 - 03:49 AM
skipy 19 Nov 07 - 04:16 AM
Liz the Squeak 19 Nov 07 - 04:57 AM
skipy 19 Nov 07 - 06:30 AM
Scooby Doo 19 Nov 07 - 06:50 AM
Dick The Box 19 Nov 07 - 07:59 AM
manitas_at_work 19 Nov 07 - 08:06 AM
Dick The Box 19 Nov 07 - 08:29 AM
GUEST,An Ex Datchet Dancer 19 Nov 07 - 08:40 AM
skipy 19 Nov 07 - 08:46 AM
GUEST,An Ex Datchet Datchet Dancer 19 Nov 07 - 09:01 AM
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skipy 19 Nov 07 - 03:56 PM
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Subject: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:12 PM

Help please:-
I have found 6 35mm slides in a skip, they are of a morris side and I would like to send them to them for their archive.
They are dressed as follows:-
(looks like) short top hat with red ribbon & circular white badge.
white shirt, black trousers to the knee. Baldrick red & black with white badge that may have a swan, duck or simillar on it.
White hankies, red & black bell pads. White socks & black shoes.
Any ideas?
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Mikefule
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:17 PM

I don't recognise the kit fromt he description. However, many sides do keep quite detailed archives, and are grateful for photos, leaflets, articles and so on from the past, so it was a kind thought for you to ask here. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,baz parkes
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:20 PM

Might be Datchet

baz


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:27 PM

pix of Datchett


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:34 PM

Sounds like a Cotswold side. Swan rings a bell - will go through old photo's and get back to you if I find their name,

Regards,
Gillie


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Emma B
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 12:37 PM

Fenstanton Morris?

photo here


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:23 PM

Hi, keep trying folks!
It's not Datchet & I don't think it's Fenstanton.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: gnomad
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:34 PM

Any way you could put the pics on line, Skipy?

I don't recognise the description, but you know how a picture can be worth a thousand words, and someone might even be able to identify an individual dancer.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 01:38 PM

Good idea, but they are slides & thefore won't scan.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 02:16 PM

I've had some pretty good results with shining a torch through the slide onto a white wall (or a sheet of paper stuck to the wall) and then photographing the image. Works adequately if you don't require razor clarity.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Fidjit
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 02:23 PM

Oh Liz. Tut! They have invented the slide projector already. Pity, you could have made a mint.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 02:25 PM

Depends on the scanner. Mine will do slides, having a backlight in the lid for that purpose. Chances are somebody you know will have something similar.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 04:55 PM

Are they waving hankies, sticks, or swords? If swords, big ones or little ones? Cuts the possibilities down a bit!

Are they in blackface or not?

Are they wearing tatters or not?


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 05:10 PM

Fidjit - I possess one slide, and no projector. I'm not going to spend any money for one slide.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 05:47 PM

Hi Richard, hankies yes, no swords long or short, no sticks shown on pickies, fool has tatters, no black faces.
I heard that some pillock bought a smashed up morris stick off Ebay a couple of years ago! True or not?
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Fidjit
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 06:15 PM

Yes very true Dave.

Liz. Just pulling your watsit darling. Forgive me.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 18 Nov 07 - 06:34 PM

Skipy - caveat emptor?

Not to mention being careful about what you find in a skip...

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Dick The Box
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 03:49 AM

Where are they dancing? Anything helpful like a pub name?

Richard


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 04:16 AM

No clues in the background at all, it's some sort of school fete or simillar.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 04:57 AM

I think you may need to take this to a photographers and get it converted, then you can put it on Flickr and we can all have a look.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 06:30 AM

Good idea Liz.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 06:50 AM

Skipy,
Its not a Morris Side that went to Kirtlington Lamb Ale is it in the early days?.


Scooby.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Dick The Box
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 07:59 AM

Roy Dommett has an encyclopedic knowledge of morris resulting from a lifetime of research. He lives in Church Crookham and I think his phone number is in the book. He might be able to cast some light, especially if it is a now defunct side.

Richard


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:06 AM

Try http://www.mit.edu/people/jcb/morris-teams.html

It's a little bit out of date but lots of costume details are listed.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Dick The Box
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:29 AM

Useful list but when looking at old photos bear in mind that teams change kit e.g. Dr Turberville's now dance in whites but when I started them in 1982 we wore brown britches and green socks!

Richard


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,An Ex Datchet Dancer
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:40 AM

Hope this might help.

Datchet Morris Men formed 1961. Style changed to dancing Border Morris in 1991. Previous kit, black and red baldricks, white shirt, black breeches, white socks. The club badge was a black swan on a blue background (Buckinghamshire Swan?)The hats did change a number of times, the last version was a Rush Boater, but we did have a black hat similar to a pork pie/trilby hat. We burnt them at a Kennet Morris Ale cause they took this piss out of us!!

I do seem to remember the background for the badge may of been white at some time.
One of the men still dances with the side since it's formation!!


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 08:46 AM

Guest above, that make a lot of sence RB above said "Datchet" but when I looked they where in tatters.
Thanks For that, I will get on to them.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,An Ex Datchet Datchet Dancer
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:01 AM

No problem Skipy.
Interested to know what part of the country you found them? I can only assume if they have been thrown away that, the original owner no longer had a use for them.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 09:36 AM

Stanford in the vale, Oxon.
Will contact them tonght, have a phone number for the spire now.
Skipy
p.s. of course you may be on one of them!


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 03:56 PM

Thanks to all who helped.
I have spoken to the squire & it's seems 98%+ that it is Datchet.
They have been posted!
Thanks again "cat", Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: My guru always said
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 05:09 PM

Another wonderful effort of rehoming articles skipy, well done!


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,Bill the sound
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 05:44 PM

You could get in touch with Kirtlington Morris or Isca Morris they have web sites with contact addresses or just do a search for Morris web sites they all have pictures you may find a match.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: skipy
Date: 19 Nov 07 - 05:52 PM

Thanks Guru & Bill I will bare that in mind for future "morris stuff" we used to go there every year, back in the 80! hope Len & Barbara are o/k.
Skipy


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,baz parkes
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 10:50 AM

I was really questioning the old grey cells after Richard's link to border Datchet

Thanks to the ex Datchet dancer I can sleep easy at night.

All I now need to do is start remembering really useful things instead..

Baz


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,Bill the sound
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 08:56 PM

Hi Skipy
I went there too about that time. Is there any news of Len and Barbara I've not seen them for years.


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: RTim
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 11:10 PM

Len & Barbara now live in Wales -they haven't lived in Kirtlington for at least 15 years. Last time I was home I heard they were doing ok - but not much.

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,Bill the sound
Date: 21 Nov 07 - 07:22 PM

I knew they were living in Wales,(North I believe). I'm pleased to hear they are ok. Thanks RTim


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: Folkiedave
Date: 21 Nov 07 - 07:39 PM

One of the men still dances with the side since it's formation!!

Yes we've got a couple of them too!!


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,Ex Datchet Dancer
Date: 22 Nov 07 - 08:34 AM

But you don't have me!
So which ones have you got Folkiedave?


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,Lindsay in Wales
Date: 22 Nov 07 - 07:24 PM

Len and Barbara live in Chirk. I knew them well in Kirtlington, way back when. Their son Bob is part of a Wiltshire folk-band called "Tinkers Bag". My cousin and her husband are members of the band.

I'm sure that the swan logo in a morris side would belong to Buckinghamshire....


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Subject: RE: Help needed to identify a morris side
From: GUEST,Ex Datchet Dancer
Date: 23 Nov 07 - 05:22 AM

Datchet used the swan as the'logo'when they were part of the county of Buckinghamshire. The boundry was moved and Datchet assimilated into Berkshire. It was decided to keep the link with the past.


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