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Any bandoneon-folkies out there?

Leadbelly 24 Nov 07 - 02:18 PM
Leadfingers 24 Nov 07 - 03:17 PM
open mike 24 Nov 07 - 03:29 PM
Leadbelly 24 Nov 07 - 03:49 PM
open mike 24 Nov 07 - 04:38 PM
Mr Happy 25 Nov 07 - 08:38 AM
GeoffLawes 25 Nov 07 - 10:07 AM
Leadbelly 25 Nov 07 - 12:19 PM
Geoff Wallis 25 Nov 07 - 04:12 PM
Crane Driver 25 Nov 07 - 04:20 PM
Rowan 25 Nov 07 - 04:26 PM
oggie 25 Nov 07 - 05:04 PM
Phil Cooper 26 Nov 07 - 03:37 PM
GUEST,Gadaffi 27 Nov 07 - 04:40 AM
GUEST,www.cahaldallat.com 29 Jul 10 - 04:53 PM
pavane 30 Jul 10 - 08:18 AM
Steve Gardham 30 Jul 10 - 04:11 PM
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Subject: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Leadbelly
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 02:18 PM

When my dear father died decades ago I became the owner of his beloved bandoneon built in 1920. Although still having a preference for my guitar sometimes I tried to play this instrument. By no means it's so difficult as it seems to be as regard to so many buttons.
My question to bandoneon-players: Which is the status of a bandoneon in folk music today?

Thanks, Manfred


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 03:17 PM

I have only ever met ONE Bandoneon player in Folk - They WERE the instrument of choice for Argentinian Tango Orchestras !


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: open mike
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 03:29 PM

yes, check out Bertram Levy, former member of the string band
http://tangoheart.com/sextet.htm

the tango is amazingly popular in Finland...is there a Finnish/
argentina connection??!!

i see a link to a two-ton bandeonon statue in google,
but cannot find the image...can you?


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Leadbelly
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 03:49 PM

Leadfingers resp. open mike: I'm aware of usage in tango music and in Finland. But I can imagine myself that a bandoneon is used in irish, scottish or cajun music, too. At least occasionally. Or do they all prefer an accordion?

Manfred


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: open mike
Date: 24 Nov 07 - 04:38 PM

The string band that Bertream Levy used to be in was
either Fuzzy Mou8ntain String Band
or Hollow Rock String Band...
the origins of the Red Clay Ramblers...

http://originalredclayramblers.com/
http://originalredclayramblers.com/fmsb.htm


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 08:38 AM

More info here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandoneon


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 10:07 AM

Scan Tester , the noted Sussex Anglo concertina player also played the bandoneon -which he called the bandolion- and there are recordings of his playing. I have a tape, recorded by the late Peter Kennedy, on which Scan plays various waltzes, scottisches and polkas,FOLKWAYS FSA45-085. I haven't encountered any other performers in Britain playing the instrument.


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Leadbelly
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 12:19 PM

Thanks to all!

Although I didn't expect that there's a larger community of bandone(i)on players this result is a little bit disappointing.

Possible reason might be that this is not a traditional british resp. north-american instrument but a german invention. Nervertheless, even in german folk musik it does not play any role. On the other hand, it was was very popular in Germany in the beginning of last century. Before radio became available many people made their own hand-made music by means of this instrument. Moreover, there have been a lot of bandone(i)on orchestras still in the 50'.

Manfred


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Geoff Wallis
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 04:12 PM

I might well be wrong (and, if so, would love to be corrected), but I cannot recall a single Irish bandoneon player. It's probably one of the few obscure European instruments which Andy Irvine doesn't play!


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Crane Driver
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 04:20 PM

Hi Leadbelly,

I suggest you visit Concertina.net and look for bandoneons in the forum there. I believe there are a number of players of bandoneons, chemnitzers and other 'cousins german' there.

Andrew


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Rowan
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 04:26 PM

My understanding is that the main factory (Alfred Arnold?) for bandoneons ended up east of the wall dividing Germany after WWII and production more or less ceased, leaving most bandoneons in South America during the postwar folk revival and, subsequently, more or less unknown among the mainstream of that revival's subsequent development until tangos and Argentinian music started appearing in what we are pleased to call World Music.

When I can fit it into the car with the rest of my clobber, I play English dance tunes on mine.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: oggie
Date: 25 Nov 07 - 05:04 PM

Me, I play! Morris and Irish and song accompaniments. It's a great instrument. 4+ octaves, lovely bass reeds and totally illogical!

Mine is a 126 voice, 1939 (17th May) Alfred Arnold. Great fun.

All the best

Steve


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 26 Nov 07 - 03:37 PM

I knew someone who played one in an Irish band. It was, unfortunately, stolen when he parked his car at a late night drive in hot dog stand (in Chicago) and the car was broken into during the couple minutes they were inside.


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: GUEST,Gadaffi
Date: 27 Nov 07 - 04:40 AM

Will Duke has Scan Tester's bandoneon.

Dave Young of the band Malthouse also plays a model built by the late Pat Robson. Check him out at http://www.wildgoose.co.uk/displayArtist.asp?ARTIST_ID=86


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: GUEST,www.cahaldallat.com
Date: 29 Jul 10 - 04:53 PM

Just to mention in passing I play Irish traditional, classical, tango, Tex-Mex, klezmer etc etc and do a lecture on James Joyce's folk/music-hall/operatic influences in turn-of-the-century Dublin (for which the bandoneon's baroque/classical/church-organ sounds are perfect): wsn't happy with the fingering and visited Harry Geuns in Limburg, Uwe Hartenhauer in Klingenthal/Carlsfeld, Kalus Gutjarh in berlin and finally had my own 4-row instrument built like a French 4-row accordion with left-hand/free-bass... A wonderful machine!


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: pavane
Date: 30 Jul 10 - 08:18 AM

Several years ago, I found one for sale in a flea market in Waterloo (Brussels). Interesting, but needed a lot of repair, so I wouldn't pay the asking price.


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Subject: RE: Any bandoneon-folkies out there?
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 30 Jul 10 - 04:11 PM

If I had the money I'd have a lovely Art Deco Star Chemnitzer, but as it happens I have an Arnold bandoneon in need of some restoration. I can knock out a tune on it as a melodeon/anglo player but it resides in the loft most of the time.


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