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Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury

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ARBUTUS
THOMAS OF WINESBURY
WILLIE O' WINSBURY
YOUNG BARBOUR


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GUEST,jake 13 Dec 07 - 12:36 PM
GUEST 13 Dec 07 - 03:25 PM
Lowden Jameswright 14 Dec 07 - 02:57 PM
GUEST,Elizabeth 06 Jan 10 - 10:59 PM
GUEST,999 07 Jan 10 - 03:45 AM
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The Sandman 07 Jan 10 - 08:05 AM
GUEST,Akabelle 06 Jan 14 - 03:58 PM
MGM·Lion 07 Jan 14 - 04:34 AM
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Subject: Chords for Willie O'Winsbury
From: GUEST,jake
Date: 13 Dec 07 - 12:36 PM

These are what I figured out from recordings. Can anyone clarify if the last line is correct? It sounds ok, a little off maybe.

Fmaj                            C         G
What ails you, what ails you my daughter Janet
Dm                   F
Why you look so pale and wan
C       Am      C       Em
Have you had some sore sickness
C          Am            F
Or yet have lain with a man


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Subject: RE: Chords for Willie O'Winsbury
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Dec 07 - 03:25 PM

Depends which recording...


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Subject: RE: Chords for Willie O'Winsbury
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 14 Dec 07 - 02:57 PM

The related thread "Willy O'Winsbury as done by Pentangle?" includes a link to a midi tune, and a couple of chord versions that may help. They don't fit the tune in my head though - which is a version by Leonard and Squires from "Broken Down Gentlemen" - and If there's a version to beat this (highlighted by a gorgeous fiddle solo by "Squigsy") then I'd love to hear it!


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: GUEST,Elizabeth
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 10:59 PM

Try playing the Em barred on the seven fret, then switch the C and the Am on the last line. It sounded a bit better to me.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: GUEST,999
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 03:45 AM

Google the below:

WILLY O' WINSBURY Capo 3, Andy Irvine Capo 6

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Jake: Go to this thread:

http://supersearch.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=98970

See the following post.

Subject: RE: Chord Req: Willy o' Winsbury (from Pentangle)
From: GUEST,Keith Bates
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 04:51 PM


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: GUEST,999
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 03:48 AM

http://myreader.co.uk/msg/116618185.aspx


Check that out, too, Jake.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Jan 10 - 08:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0zAr1t6nTE
chord g maj dmajor c maj emi and finish on subdominant chord, c major


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: GUEST,Akabelle
Date: 06 Jan 14 - 03:58 PM

I play the Sweeney's Men version like this

G C G D
C D Am-C
G C G Em
C D Am-C

With capo on the first fret, it sound just as in this recording:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7BoGH0Gcxs


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Jan 14 - 04:34 AM

I take it we are talking of the tune which originally belonged to False Foudrage but became associated with Winsbury because someone [one of Planxty IIRC] once got confused in looking it up?

Yes - on checking, I find a reference to Andy Irvine having claimed to unconsciously slipping into the Fause Foodrage tune while doing Willie Of Winsbury so it became universally assoc'd with the latter.

I take it that is the tune we are addressing in this thread?

~M~


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: Susan of DT
Date: 07 Jan 14 - 06:54 AM

What tune originally belonged to False Foodrage? What is the reference for "originally belonged"? It is not in Bronson. I sing it to Lord Gregory, a slight variation of Brian Peters' setting.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Jan 14 - 07:31 AM

Susan: The tune I have in mind, the one Pentangle used, occurs played by the brass at the beginning of the closing procession in the film The Wicker Man. It is the one I always associate with Winsbury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr16W2wStXQ

is Anne Briggs singing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3_U6o0LogM

is Pentangle's.

& here indeed is Andy Irvine:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS6kjbEOmv0

This is the tune I gather originally belonged to Foudrage.

~M~


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 08 Jan 14 - 02:34 AM

Though I can't, come to think of it, recall ever having heard Fause Foodrage sung. Anyone out there sing it? Can anyone link to a recording? It doesn't even appear in DT. But the tune we are talking of seems a close variant of Bronson's version 1 of Foodrage.

~M~


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 14 - 02:24 AM

Fairport convention used the tune for Farewell farewell. You may wan to look up the chords for that as comparison.

Thanks
Pat


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 14 - 02:29 AM

I think the tune is older than willie but andy irvine arranged it to take the lyrics. Tell me folks is Farewell Farewell is the dame tune again?

http://www.azchords.com/r/richardthompson-tabs-26783/farewellfarewell-tabs-362113.html


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: Brian Peters
Date: 09 Jan 14 - 05:50 AM

'False Foudrage'(Child 89) is one of the relatively small number of ballads for which Child supplied a melody, corresponding to version 89C and deriving from the Harris MS. This was printed in the final volume of ESPB, in the section 'Ballad Airs from Manuscript', and is very similar to the tune commonly used for 'Willie O Winsbury'.

In my Dover edition, a tune for 'Willie'(100J) is printed over the page - it's nothing like the Foodrage tune. The story goes (I remember Diane Easby discussing it here on Mudcat) that Andy Irvine flipped over the page - accidentally or by design? - and used the Foodrage tune for Willie. It's odd how a relatively recent compilation like that can become so definitive that hardly anyone now thinks of singing 'Willie O Winsbury' to the tune that once went with it.

"Though I can't, come to think of it, recall ever having heard Fause Foodrage sung. Anyone out there sing it?"

Well I do ( the only other person I know is Chris Coe, and she uses a different text and tune - not the one in Child either). As Susan says, I adapted Lord Gregory, because the tune in Child seemed too firmly associated with Willie. If you want to hear a sample of mine, go here and click on the title.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Jan 14 - 06:57 AM

Many thanks, Brian. I do love your singing, as you know.

All best & belated HNY!

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: Willie o' Winsbury
From: Brian Peters
Date: 09 Jan 14 - 10:25 AM

Too kind, Michael, and the same to you!

Brian


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