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Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls

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DECK THE HALLS
DECK US ALL


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Scotus 30 Dec 07 - 04:42 PM
Stewart 30 Dec 07 - 05:47 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 30 Dec 07 - 06:45 PM
Scotus 30 Dec 07 - 10:23 PM
Stewart 30 Dec 07 - 11:06 PM
Stewart 30 Dec 07 - 11:10 PM
Scotus 31 Dec 07 - 02:37 PM
Scotus 01 Jan 08 - 03:44 PM
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Subject: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Scotus
Date: 30 Dec 07 - 04:42 PM

I was listening to 'Deck the halls' last week and it suddenly dawned on me that the tune is almost identical to 'The Piper in the Meadow Straying'! I believe that 'Halls' is a Welsh carol - is 'Piper' Welsh, and is there a connection?

Jack


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Stewart
Date: 30 Dec 07 - 05:47 PM

I believe there's already a Mudcat thread on that somewhere.
Try the Search.

Cheers, S. in Seatle


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 30 Dec 07 - 06:45 PM

Welsh title is Nos Galan (which means something like New Year's Night or perhaps New Year's Eve, so it's quite timely). The forum search facility for that name brings up a whole feast of pages.


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Scotus
Date: 30 Dec 07 - 10:23 PM

Yes Bonnie (and Stewart),

I tried a search before posting but it brought up a gazillion and none had anything about 'piper' in the titles.

Anybody remember which thread?

Jack


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Stewart
Date: 30 Dec 07 - 11:06 PM

Here it is
And the midi is here

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Stewart
Date: 30 Dec 07 - 11:10 PM

It's fun to play "The Piper in the Meadows" and then morph into Deck the Halls. Then explain that it really isn't a Christmas carol.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Scotus
Date: 31 Dec 07 - 02:37 PM

It certainly confirms to me the similarity and Matsuko's second last post in that thread seems to confirm the connection. But I'm still a bit puzzled as to how a Welsh tune became an Irish one and which came first! Piper in the Meadow is a pretty popular tune (I've heard it played by many Northumbrian pipers, just to further complicate things) but I've never heard anyone make the connection to 'Deck the Halls' (maybe I just don't get around as much as I should).

Jack


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Subject: RE: Origins: piper in the meadow/deck the halls
From: Scotus
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 03:44 PM

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