BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 09:36 AM

You could also be reincarnated as krill, eaten by a whale, and end up with a plop on the ocean floor.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 09:02 AM

What if you're reincarnated as a Republican and are therefore rendered incapable or rational thought?

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 09:02 AM

In either case, why worry about it? If there IS a deity, what's s/he going to do you if you don't believe? For that matter, what difference would it make to an omnipotent, omniscient, omni-everything critter if you, a puny little piece of inconsequential cosmic puke, believes or not? And if there ISN'T one it doesn't make any difference at all.

If you want to believe, fine. If you don't, that's okay too. Just don't use your beliefs to bludgeon others.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 08:48 AM

Like an afterlife, we'll know for sure soon enough.

If you believe in an afterlife and are right then you'll be able to say "I told you so". If you don't believe in an afterlife and you are right then you WON'T be able to say it!

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: bobad
Date: 02 Jan 08 - 08:44 AM

Right on Bee Dub.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 10:27 PM

As a Taoist, I believe there is a supreme force in the universe, that it flows through everything, and that it is undefinable. It has never made me want to fight a war on its behalf, convert anyone to my belief system, or stand on a street corner waving a copy of the Tao Te Ching and screaming "One way! The watercourse way!"

If I were given a choice between converting to a theistic religion and eating rat poison, I'd probably become a Rastafarian. If you're gonna believe a bunch of hooey, at least you should be able to get high as a kite and play guitar while you're at it.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 07:55 PM

The question boils down to: "Does it matter to YOU?"

Like an afterlife, we'll know for sure soon enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Nickhere
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 07:32 PM

I bought a book over Christmas, it's called "Caro Gesu, potresti cambiare il sapore agli asparagi?" (ISBN 978 88 454 1433 6). It's a collection of letters from Italian primary-school children to Jesus, asking Him this or that or telling Him their thoughts, and published just as they wrote them. The title means "Dear Jesus, can you change the flavour of asparagus?" (evidently not popular with that child!). It contains many other funny gems -

for example -

"Dear Jesus,
what expressions did people have on their faces when you did your miracles? Did they make you want to laugh? Carolina"

OR

"Dear Jesus,
do all the saints still exist, or are they like the dinosaurs? Marco"

There's a clever one from this girl:

"Dear Jesus,
mum and dad have grounded me and I can't go out on Saturday or Sunday. Can't you do something about it. If not, it will end up that I'll miss mass also.... Simona"

(Well, He'll HAVE to do something about that, I suppose!)

But you guys will probably like this one best:

"Dear Jesus,
what do you think of people who say you don't exist? Do you think of them as being like supporters of another (football) team, for example, like Inter fans? Paolo"

Happy New Year!

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 07:31 PM

Verifiable? Hmmm....by whom?

Seems like the bottom line is if two viewpoints agree, you have a point of reality.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: bobad
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 05:55 PM

The first of ten definitions of "real" :
1a. Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 05:44 PM

bobad....the Cambridge Dictionary online gives a definition for EXIST...it means 'BE REAL to be real or present'
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 05:39 PM

Probably not, but he's ahead in the polls in Iowa.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 04:46 PM

Does he exist?


A

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 04:24 PM

There's Mike Huckabee!

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 03:32 PM

Flying Spaghetti Monsters! I'm hungry now.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 03:28 PM

Just because a group of people agree about an entity does not mean It "exists" as an entity outside that agreement.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: bobad
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 03:18 PM

Define exist.

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 03:13 PM

Just because some don't believe in Him...doesn't mean he doesn't exist!

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Severn
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 02:45 PM

Maybe there are no Gods left because they've already been stilled.
Not even Sons O' Gods.

If not, are you saying no more should be stilled in 2008 (A.D., that is, measured from.....ahhhhhhhh nevermind!)

Can Bacchus still be distilled?

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: skipy
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 02:35 PM

Well, will the anti copycats go for you or not? after all this is a "religious" thread! Wait & watch this space!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 02:32 PM

Well, there's me....

Subject: BS: Still no gods 2008 (continued)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Jan 08 - 02:30 PM

This thread was getting pretty long...

Happy New Year! Maybe this year superstition will take its rightful place in the world...