BS: vote for change but what is it?

Subject: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 01:24 PM

People have their own idea of change


If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten.
Anonymous

Never change horses in mid stream.
Proverb

No matter how far you have gone on a road, turn back.
Proverb, Turkish

It often takes more courage to change one's opinion than to stick to it.
Geoffrey F. Abert


Just because the solutions of problems are not visible at any particular time does not mean that those problems will never be alleviated or confined to tolerable dimensions. History has a way of changing the very terms in which problems operate and of leaving them, in the end, unsolved, to be sure, yet strangely deflated of their original meaning and importance.
M. I. Abramowitz

If we learn the art of yielding what must be yielded to the changing present we can save the best of the past.
Dean Acheson, address to Law Club of Chicago, 1-22-1937

Controbersial proposals, once accepted, soon became hallowed.
Dean Acheson, speech, Independence MO, 3-31-1962

If you don't change your beliefs, your life will be like this forever.
Douglas Noel Adams

When a man you like switches from what he said a year ago, or 4 years ago, he is a broad-minded person who has courage enough to change his mind with changing conditions. When a man you don't like does it, he is a liar who has broken his promises.
Franklin P. Adams

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
Maya Angelou

What really distinguishes this generation in all countries from earlier generations ... is its determination to act, its joy in action, the assurance of being able to change things by one's own efforts.
Hannah Arendt

CHANGE, ADAPTATION, LAW, GOVERNMENT, REVOLUTION
Even when laws have been written down, they ought not always to remain unaltered.
Aristotle 384-322BC N E

No nation, no social institution ever acquired coherence without some sort of a fight. Out of the fight come its myths and its heroes.
Thurman Arnold

Men believe that a society is disintegrating when it can no longer be pictured in familiar terms. Unhappy is a people that has run out of words to describe what is going on.
Thurman Arnold

Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Saint Francis of Assisi

The main dangers in this life are the people who want to change everything or nothing.
Lady Nancy Astor

CONSERVATISM, CHANGE, BELIEFS, PARADIGMS
The whole history of civilization is strewn with creeds and institutions which were invluable at first and deadly afterwards.
Walter Bagehot, Physics and Politics

Identity would seem to be the garment with which one covers the nakedness of the self, in which case, it is best that the garment be loose, a little like the robes of the desert, through which one's nakedness can always be felt, and, sometimes, discerned. This trust in one's nakedness is all that gives one the power to change one's robes.
James Arthur Baldwin

When you are through changing, you are through.
Bruce Barton

To exist is to change, to change is to mature, to mature is to go on creating oneself endlessly.
Henri Bergson

In science the important thing is to modify and change one's ideas as science advances.
Claude Bernard

I have always argued that change becomes stressful and overwhelming only when you've lost any sense of the constancy of your life. You need firm ground to stand on. From there, you can deal with that change.
Richard Nelson Bolles

Each new season grows from the leftovers from the past. That is the essence of change, and change is the basic law.
Hal Borland

It is only an error in judgement to make a mistake, but it shows infirmity of character to adhere to it when discovered.
Christian Bovee

CHANGE, GROWTH, ON THE ROAD
I ain't what I'm gonna be.
I ain't what I wanna be.
But thank God, I ain't what I was.
Les Brown


PLANNING, HISTORY, CHANGE, PAST
"You can never plan the future by the past."
Burke, Edmund, Letter to member of national Assembly

We must adjust to changing times and still hold to unchanging principles.
Jimmy Carter, in his 1-20-1977 inaugural address, quoting his high school teacher Julia Coleman


Any path is only a path, and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you.
Carlos Castaneda

To remain young one must change
Alexander Chase

If you cry "Forward" you must be sure to make clear the direction in which to go. Don't you see that if you fail to do that and simply call out the word to a monk and a revolutionary, they will go in precisely opposite directions.
Anton Chekhov

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Sir Winston Churchill

Turbulence is a life force. It is opportunity. Let's love turbulence and use it for change.
Ramsay Clark

Open your eyes! The world is still intact.
Paul Claudel

The challenges of change are always hard. It is important that we begin to unpack those challenges that confront this nation and realize that we each have a role that requires us to change and become more responsible for shaping our own future.
Hillary Rodham Clinton

I have news for the forces of greed and the defenders of the status quo: your time has come and gone. It's time for change in America.
William Jefferson Clinton

They must often change, who would be constant in happiness or wisdom.
Confucius

I am personally convinced that one person can be a change catalyst, a 'transformer' in any situation, any organization. Such an individual is yeast that can leaven an entire loaf. It requires vision, initiative, patience, respect, persistence, courage, and faith to be a transforming leader.
Stephen R. Covey

If anything is certain, it is that change is certain. The world we are planning for today will not exist in this form tomorrow.
Philip Crosby

...I am not apt to follow blindly the lead of other men. I have steadily endeavoured to keep my mind free so as to give up any hypothesis, however much beloved (and I cannot resist forming one on every subject), as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it. Indeed, I have had no choice but to act in this manner, for with the exception of the Coral Reefs, I cannot remember a single first-formed hypothesis which had not after a time to be given up or greatly modified. This has naturally led me to distrust greatly deductive reasoning in the mixed sciences. On the other hand, I am not very sceptical,�a frame of mind which I believe to be injurious to the progress of science. A good deal of scepticism in a scientific man is advisable to avoid much loss of time, but I have met with not a few men, who, I feel sure, have often thus been deterred from experiment or observations, which would have proved directly or indirectly serviceable.
Charles Darwin

PERSISTENCE, DETERMINATION, PERSEVERANCE
Obstacles cannot crush me. Every obstacle yields to stern resolve. He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind.
Leonardo da Vinci

ACTION, DECISION
The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity. The fears are paper tigers. You can do anything you decide to do. You can act to change and control your life; and the procedure , the process is its own reward.
Robyn Davidson

Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
Miles Davis

JOURNEY, STEPS, TURNING POINTS,
Arriving at one goal is the starting point to another.
John Dewey

Life is not a static thing. The only people who do not change their minds are incomptetents in asylums, who can't are those in cemeteries.
Everett McKinley Dirksen

Security can only be achieved through constant change, through discarding old ideas that have outlived their usefulness and adapting others to current facts.
William O. Douglas

The important thing is this; to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become.
Charles Du Bos

If you don't like the way the world is, you change it. You have an obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time.
Marian Wright Edelman

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
Albert Einstein

A photograph never grows old. You and I change, people change all through the months and years, but a photograph always remains the same. How nice to look at a photograph of mother or father taken many years ago. You see them as you remember them. But as people live on, they change completely. That is why I think a photograph can be kind.
Albert Einstein

If you don't like the way the world is, you change it. You have an obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time.
Marian Wright Edelman

Life is a lways at some turning point.
Irwin Edman

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
Albert Einstein

For everything you have missed, you have gained something else, and for everything you gain, you lose something else.
Emerson

CHANGE< STABILITY, SACRED
"People wish to be settled; only as far as they are unsettled is there any hope for them."
Life is a series of surprises. we do not guess the mood, the pleasure, the power of tomorrow, when we are building up our being. Of lower states,,, of acts of routine and sense, we can tell somewhat; but the masterpieces of God, the total growths and universal movements of the soul, he hideth; they are incalculable."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, Circles

VARIETY
"Gladly we would Anchor, but the anchorage is quicksand.
...Our love of the Real draws us to Permanence, but health of body consists in circulation, and Sanity of mind in variety or facility of association. We need change of objects. Dedication to one thought is quickly odious."
Emerson


All is change; all yields its place and goes.
Euripedes

No one can persuade another to change. Each of us guards a gate of change that can only be opened from the inside. We cannot open the gate of another, either by argument or emotional appeal.
Marilyn Ferguson

"I was born not knowing and have only had a little time to change that here and there."
Richard Phillips Feynman

"It is not strange ... to mistake change for progress."
Millard Fillmore


more change http://www.opednews.com/articles/5/genera_rob_kall_080108_since_change_is_the_.htm

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 01:31 PM

I don't think I've ever heard (or seen, in this case) anyone quote Millard Fillmore before.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 01:41 PM

An impressive list Donuel has put together there - I take it that it's not just a cut and paste job.

Which makes a nice change.

Change and decay in all around I see,
Oh thou who changest not,
Abide with me.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jan 08 - 02:13 PM

If things don't change they'll stay the same" was the immortal and admirably neutral Tony Hancock's eloquent comment on this subject.

"Admirably neutral" - that reflects the way I get irritated at the way people - typically politicians - use the word as if all change was the same.

Anyone who says unequivocally that they in favour of, or are against, change as such is saying something that is basically absurd.

There's change for the good and there's change for the bad. People can disagree as to which is which - but that's another matter.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: autolycus
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 04:06 AM

An interesting collection - I've already copied the Churchill - tho' the Churchill and the da Vinci make a thought-provoking comparison - am I to change my mind or not? I think the answer is, it depends.


I'd like to know, Donuel, your authority for saying the quote about knowing what to change is by St.Francis.

My understanding is that it belongs to Reinhold Niebuhr (Source Bartlett's Familiar Quotations)

Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 07:57 AM

"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
Albert Einstein"


                        That's how we got stuck in Iraq, right?

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 08:56 AM

Sorry there Rig, but its one of the problems when you're still a noobie to the 'Cat. Many times folks find it hard to believe but no matter how ridiculous the subject matter, we have probably already discussed it, often in detail. Old Millard was adopted as a bit of project here a few years back......

VOTE for Millard

And of course the opposition was represented.......

Stop Millard

And look at the number of posts! 631 total!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 09:42 AM

That election was rigged. After we spent months and hours voting for Millard Fillmore, they only counted each voter once. They had already decided on Ronald Reagan.

Millard Fillmore was born in East Aurora, NY and you can visit his home there.


Remember Dylan saying "The times they are a'changin"? But they didn't. The more things change the more they stay the same. Out of Viet Nam and into Irag and Afghanistan. We will never run out of excuses to go to war.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 12:58 PM

Does anybody remember the date of the sunset of the Age of Aquarius?

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Padre
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 01:47 PM

The day after the dawning.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 01:54 PM

Change is Michael Bloomberg getting into the race as an independant.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: autolycus
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 02:08 PM

dick - around 2100 years from now.

Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 02:35 PM

This is actually a question I have asked many people who were socially active during the "Sixties" . Just a private interest. I kept a running total in my day timer for years with the following results:

The answer that comes up by far the most often is August 9, 1969

The next most common asnwer I get is August 1968

A distant third is December 6 1969

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 09:21 PM

I don't know, DW, I go for the distant third, I think.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 09:54 PM

Hmmm. No change quotes from Obama.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't grow moss on his back."

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: autolycus
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 04:26 AM

Dave's Wife. are those supposed to be dates for the dawning of the age of Aquarius? It's not clear.

Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 08:47 AM

Some would consider a new paradigm change, especially so if the value didn't add up to twenty cents.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jan 08 - 04:41 PM

I know Reinhold Niebuhr, Reinhold Niebuhr would have been a friend of mine, You are no Reinhold Niebuhr ... but I guess that is beside the point lol

While not deviseing the list of quotes I would defer to an earlier possible author.

We need another Reinhold Niebuhr to get the X-stion right back on track for the nation and themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: vote for change but what is it?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Jan 08 - 11:48 AM

Disposable diapers was a big change, as I remember. They brought about all the anti-litter laws.