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Lyr Req: Once in the Town (from Manticore?)

Dave Roberts 13 Jan 08 - 07:52 AM
Peace 13 Jan 08 - 03:51 PM
masato sakurai 13 Jan 08 - 07:22 PM
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Jim Dixon 15 Jan 08 - 08:17 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 13 Jan 08 - 07:52 AM

Can anyone help with the lyrics to a song called 'Once In The Town' which I heard about 10 years ago.

The opening line is 'Once in the town, as the sun went down..'and the only other fragment I can recall is something along the lines of 'so much alarmed, though little harmed, we dread the time of dying (or something like that).

The whole lyric was set (I think) to a gentle traditional Irish melody.
Thanks for your time.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Peace
Date: 13 Jan 08 - 03:51 PM

Any chance you want "Just As The Sun Went Down"?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: masato sakurai
Date: 13 Jan 08 - 07:22 PM

You can hear a sound sample (1:54) of it HERE. Click on "Manticore - Once_In_The_Town.mp3."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 14 Jan 08 - 04:57 AM

Yes, that's the one. I couldn't remember the name of the band. It was on a demo CD sent to the then MFAB festival director Dave Thompson, and it's been at the back of my mind for all these years.
Many thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Jan 08 - 08:17 AM

Here's what I hear in that sound sample. I'm not familiar with Manticore, but the voice sounds like Mary Black. The tune is familiar--I think it's by O'Carolan,

Once in the town as the sun went down
The wheels of time were turning
And bright and still upon the hill
I saw a vision burning.
So great a change, all things were strange.
I knew no face surrounding.
In unknown tongues sweet songs were sung
And all things were astounding.
The moon was gone, the stars were hung…


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Jan 08 - 07:49 PM

Someone in this forum calls it "a poem by Frank Mansell set to Carolan's 'Planxty Corcoran'."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Peace
Date: 15 Jan 08 - 08:07 PM

I have e-mail that poster on that forum and will report back if/when.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 16 Jan 08 - 12:15 PM

I'm glad this is creating some interest. 'Once In the Town' is a haunting song with beautiful lyrics. Does anyone know if a full recording is available?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 17 Jan 08 - 07:52 AM

...and after a little more delving I'm sure the tune is 'Planxty Irwin' rather that 'Planxty Corcoran'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 18 Jan 08 - 06:04 AM

Further update: I've done what I should have done in the first place and got in touch with Dave T (see post 4).

He says that the only material by Manticore he remembers was on a cassette rather than a CD, which makes sense as it was so long ago.

Not a problem in this technological age, of course.

He's going to see if he can find it in his massive archive.

I hope he can, because the little snippet masato sakurai pointed us to on the web (post 3) has made be wasnt to hear the whole thing again.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once In The Town
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 18 Jan 08 - 06:05 AM

'....and 'made be wasnt' is just my way of saying 'made me want'....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once in the Town (from Manticore?)
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 29 Jan 08 - 06:07 PM

Hello again. The good news is that I've now located the song, on a four track cassette sampler sent to Dave Thompson when he was MFAB Festival Director in 1992.

The tracks are:

Once In The Town
Black Is The Colour Of My True Love's Hair
The Cuckoo (Live)
Little Green (Live)

Performers are: Annette Batty, John Neilson and Keith Offord

'Once In The Town' is indeed, as noted, a poem by Frank Mansell set to Carolan's Planxty Irwin.

As it's 'Once In The Town' I'm chiefly interested in and, as internet searching for the lyrics/poem has proved fruitless,when time allows I'll take the trouble to transcribe the words for those who may be interested.

The poem is as beautiful as the tune.

And, oh yes, Annette Batty has a superb voice.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once in the Town (from Manticore?)
From: GUEST,Annette Batty
Date: 06 Jun 12 - 08:15 AM

Hello ,

This is a 4 year late response to the query about Once in the Town.Someone has probably answered you by now, but here goes..
I sang this with Manticore way back when. Correctly remembered as a lovely Frank Mansell poem set to Planxty Irwin. Full Lyrics as I remember them.:

Once in the town , as the sun went down and the wheels of time were turning.
When bright and still upon the hill I saw a vision burning.
So great a change, all things were strange, I knew no face surrounding,
In unknown tongue sweet songs were sung , and all things were astounding.

The moon was gone and there stars were none, some great light hid their gleaming.
No day began and no river ran , no trace of human scheming.
In words of flame , one called my name , and said have done with sorrow.
Earths bitter day will pass away and this arise tomorrow.

Though much alarmed but never harmed, men fear their time of dying.
Yet find no tomb but some new womb and youth before them lying.
So weak of mind , the human kind, still doubt the life ensuing,
Nor care to see that each life must be fruit of each past lifes doing.

Above below the living go , find home in land and ocean.
Life wanders far on many a star , that wheels in distant motion.
More fleet of wing than birds that sing , more free than feet that wander
More full of light than suns in flight, this soul whose fate you ponder.

Then on my gaze there paled that blaze , a future time revealing.
And I since then , in streets of men, pass like a stranger stealing.


Apologies for any minor errors - amazing how ones brain retains this stuff! It was always one of my favourites with the group.
Nice to be remembered kindly.

Love Annette x


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once in the Town (from Manticore?)
From: GUEST,Annette Batty
Date: 06 Jun 12 - 08:38 AM

By the way looking at some other bits of the postings regarding this, yes it was originally on a short a cassette recording. Not the best overall in my humble opinion as some was done in a studio which wasnt that folk orientated and there was all sorts of double tracking bits insisted upon. I think then there was a live in Llangollen recording which was remastered onto a cd in a home studio. This is all the recording I ever did with John and Keith, however some of you may be acquainted with the CD "Gwerin" on which I appeared with John Neilson from Manticore and Steve Tilston. It is one track only - One Night as I lay on my Bed. I really like this as its is very sparse. Steve and I recorded Queen Cruelty for Les Barkers album Airs of the Dog- I only got the gig as Steve couldnt get his tongue around it -its wordy- however he told Les he knew a girl that could! It was hard and I remember doing a number of takes as I ran out of breath.
Anyway I wish I could have done more recordings of the quality of the Gwerin track...who knows there is time yet I suppose.

A


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Once in the Town (from Manticore?)
From: GUEST,Annette Batty
Date: 06 Jun 12 - 03:09 PM

Just as an aside - as you have all had me thinking about that dratted cassette all day! We supported Altan at Bangor Uni years ago and we gave them a tape. Some years later I was alerted to them having made a Manticore credit on one of their albums as they had taken some inspiration from our recording of Black is the Colour and done it themselves. Mhiraed is a really sweet girl. We had a great time back in the 80s met some great /interesting characters and covered quite a bit of ground considering we all had full time jobs. I feel exhausted just thinking about it. No wonder I was always late for work.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane--really should do some more music- any decent musicians out there in the mid wales area?

A


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