using folk songs with Key Stage 1

Subject: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 01:43 PM

Does anyone know any traditional songs that are particularly good for teaching children in Key stage one and key stage two? What have you tried that was particularly successful?

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Anne Lister
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 03:02 PM

Anything with a good chorus and not too many references to sex and drink!
Popular favourites that I take around are various versions of "The Herring's Head" and "The Fox".

Anne

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 04:37 PM

What are Key stage 1 and Key stage 2?

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: GUEST,Saira
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 05:20 PM

Key stage one and two are classes in primary school..Ive just started teaching singing to this age group and most of my repertoire is folk, the problem was once I'd weeded all the sex and gambling songs out there was a lot less on me list! I'm using things like: The Fox and the Herrings head too...Keep your feet still geordie hinny, have you seen owt of my bonny lad, Ah you ah, Dol-li-a, the Keel row, byker hill, dance to your daddy, felton lonnin; When I first came to this land, the bonny pit laddie,
Rattlin Bog, Old woman of skin and bone, old dan tucker, a version of the 2 sisters I made...
Hoping some of these will work ok, Ive not worked with an age group this young before!

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: GUEST,Saira
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 05:20 PM

p.s Any more suggestions would be helpful!!

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Tig
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 05:48 PM

Try and get hold of copies of the books 'Appusskidu' and 'The Jolly Herring'. There's quite a few folk songs in them suitable for the littlies - and I know they've brought out some more books since I last used them.

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: GUEST,North/South Annie
Date: 03 Feb 08 - 06:51 PM

All night all day
Angels watching over me my lord
All night all day
Angels atching over me etc...

Is a good one and uncomplicated guitar too so that you can keep your eye on the kids!

Also try Oats & beans & Barley Grow etc (especially good around Harvest Festival time)

Also daddy's taking us to the Zoo tomorrow (use children out the front to demonstrate and lead actions for class.
Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: jonm
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 03:59 AM

Agree with the Jolly Herring, I've used that in similar contexts. There's an even better one in the same vein called Strawberry Fair, which is more suited to littlies.

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: GUEST,Okie Red
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 04:40 AM

Can't go wrong with Old Dan Tucker. I thought of a few though I'm not sure exactly what style you're searching for.

Red River Valley
Crawdad Song
Froggy Went Courtin'
Someone's in the Kitchen With Dinah
My Bonny Lies Over the Ocean

I always enjoyed these when I was young. Still do.

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: JohnDun
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 06:15 AM

I've found that the young 'uns like it the simpler the better.

I teach at our County music service guitar and folk classes, my little ones love the tunes rather than the words. Once the tune is in their heads they will sing/shake/rattle anything.

So we do 'Roll the old cariots along' but change the verses to something more appropriate.
'A plate of fish and chips, wouldn't do you any harm'
'Kicking a ball around, wouldn't do you any harm' etc...
Get them to make up their own verses.

Also look at the scouts/guides campfire songs

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 06:46 AM

I second the suggestion of the Fox. Mum learnt it at about that age.

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: s&r
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 11:54 AM

A pizza hut etc; drunken sailor (hymn words if you like) Skin by Leon Rosselson etc. Why not join and you'd find people will PM you with stuff



Stu

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 12:25 PM

Coulter's Candy and Ting-a-lay-o always go down well!

Best wishes,

Peter

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: saira
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 12:30 PM

Well I just joined as suggested above...Hello!

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: JohnDun
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 01:10 PM

Hi Saira

What songs do 'you' like doing? Do you prefer songs or tunes?

The confidence you have with a tune or song carries across to those learning it then comes straight back at you... loud and strong.

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: eddie1
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 01:18 PM

Hi Saira
Welcome to mudcat!

Learnt from The Fabulous Salami Brothers

Tune – When The Saints Go Marching In.

I want to see those clapping hands X 4   (with Clapping)

I want to see those stamping feet X 4   (with stamping)

I want to see those nodding heads X 4   (with nodding)

I want to see those wagging tongues X 4    (with wagging)

Then………. Everything, altogether, simultaneously at the same time!

I want to see those clapping hands
I want to see those stamping feet
I want to see those nodding heads
I want to see those wagging tongues





Learnt from the late Danny Kyle

My Bonny Lies Over The Ocean -   tell them to lift their hands above their heads at the first letter "B" then put them down again for the next "B" and so on. It's very easy until the chorus (even for adults who know the words)

As mentioned earlier, "The Zoo Song" but keep all the children up front till you've built up a zoo. The last ones can all come up together to be monkeys or penguins.



If you like school dinners clap your hands   (Clap. Clap)   X 2
If you like school dinners even though they make you thinner
If you like school dinners clap your hands   (Clap. Clap)   

Then comes the difficult bit for you! Get the children to suggest meals and make up rhymes :-

If you like mince and tatties though it turns you into fatties.
If you like toast and cheese though it gives you hairy knees.
If you like bacon and egg though it dribbles on your leg.
If you like fish and chips though they give you greasy lips etc, etc.

Of course they will try to catch you out with things like lasagne, spaghetti Bolognese etc, work at it!

Good luck and have fun

Eddie

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 01:21 PM

Good to have you on board Saira!

Best wishes,

Peter

BTW I'm sure you've thought of Yellow Submarine, Johnny plays with one hammer and I am the music man! Froggie went a courtin' is a good 'un and any version of Noah and his animals going into the ark!

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Anne Lister
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 03:03 PM

Lots of action songs, counting songs, silly songs with noises ...and see if they can teach *you* any songs - that's how I learnt all sorts of stuff which I can pass on to other groups, such as Little Bunny Foo Foo.

Anne

Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 01:55 PM

A poor old man was crossing the road (etc)

When along came a man with a (etc)
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I went to market to buy (etc)
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Over the sea to Skye
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Court of King Caractacus
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There was a bold fisherman
Who came up to Pimlico....
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Subject: RE: using folk songs with Key Stage 1
From: Willa
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 02:22 PM

Try here

http://www.kididdles.com/lyrics/index.html