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How to pronounce 'plaidie'

michaelr 05 Feb 08 - 07:59 PM
Jack Campin 05 Feb 08 - 08:06 PM
michaelr 05 Feb 08 - 08:38 PM
Jim Lad 05 Feb 08 - 08:44 PM
michaelr 05 Feb 08 - 08:52 PM
Scotus 05 Feb 08 - 09:20 PM
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JennieG 06 Feb 08 - 01:11 AM
Jim Lad 06 Feb 08 - 03:11 AM
Uncle_DaveO 06 Feb 08 - 10:03 AM
GUEST,Boab 06 Feb 08 - 02:31 PM
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Rowan 06 Feb 08 - 11:20 PM
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Subject: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 07:59 PM

Is it play-dee, pladdie, pleh-dee or what?

TIA,
Michael


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jack Campin
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:06 PM

Play-dee.

Whereas "plaid" is "plad".


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:38 PM

Right, thanks Jack!


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:44 PM

I remember our modern studies teacher doing an experiment with the word "Rare". Asking each student to pronounce it then marking our spot on the map. There was a remarkable change in the word from one end of our school zone to the other.
Approximate distance.... about 7 or 8 miles.
Much like the Macpherson thread, this one will be all over the map.
My pronunciation for ""Plaidie" would be half way between ay & eh.


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:52 PM

Yup Jim, the MacP thread inspired me to ask!


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Scotus
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:20 PM

In my experience it's usually 'plydee' (ply as in plywood)

Jack


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Ythanside
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:40 PM

But only in Oz,surely, Scotus.:-)


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: JennieG
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 01:11 AM

Oy! are you having a go at us Ozzies? most of us talk proper, you know.

I would reckon 'play-dee', but in truth I would agree with Jim Lad, betweey 'ay' and 'eh' even with an Ozzie accent.

Cheers
JennieG.....an Ozzie with some Scots ancestry, from over 160 years ago


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:11 AM

Gdayowlmitejavagoodweegenn?

Wouldn't that be "Ploiday" Scotus?


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 10:03 AM

Whereas the garment is "Playd", and in my experience in the US, at least, that checked-type pattern that a Scotsman would call a tartan becomes "a plad".

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 02:31 PM

Repeat efter me---"plide".


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: goatfell
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:03 PM

YOU SAY PLAYED FOR PLAID

Tom Hamilton from Scotland


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 03:13 PM

PLAIDIE------pronounced, ruh-BIN-o-witz

Any other questions?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Rowan
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 11:20 PM

Again, it seems, I'm with JennieG.

In Oz I've only heard the word "plaidie" rarely but it was always "PLAY dee" whereas I've heard the word "plaid" routinely, always pronounced "PLAD". Because daughter #2 has taken up Scottish Highland dancing I get to hear the words plaid and tartan quite often, frequently by speakers with a lot more recent Scottish (and Scots) in their lives than mine.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 02:05 AM

Probably Scotch too Rowan.......

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:03 AM

People posting on this kind of thread ought to say where they come from.

And "PLAID pronounced PLAD" leaves it open as to whether that "A" is long or short.

Is the word "PLAIDIE" used anyway?


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 10:31 AM

Well, Burns rhymes it with "laddie"....

Re. "plaid" (which I would pronounce to rhyme with "lad", too), Byron rhymes it with "glade", in "Lachain Y Gair"/"Dark Lochnagar". But then , he was in his own words only "half a Scot". Re. "Plaidie", in the West of Scotland I think that would indeed have the first syllable as in "ply-wood"; cf the word "pay", which tends to be pronounce as in the first syllable of "piper".


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Rowan
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:02 PM

You're right Kevin but, although I reckon "Oz" is adequate location info, I'm no good at formal phonetics. The way most in Oz (including me) would pronounce PLAD it would rhyme with BAD as sung by the Battlefield Band in Bad moon arising; I take it that would be a short "a"

Recently there was a docco on Oz telly, hosted by John Clark (of Fred Dagg fame) about the origins of the Oz accent. It was a real hoot and used a particular sentence to indicate accented differences in accents;

"Ask the master to pass a banana."

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:08 PM

Sorry, I was wrong before. Plaidie should actually be pronounced "FOR-tin-tor-plotz."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:17 PM

Had a woman fall out with me once for singin Auld Lang Zyne.
Her son said it made her night.
We (Scots) are never happy unless we're arguing.


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 06:57 PM

Thanks, Spaw, always helpful.


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:11 PM

Ewan McColl pronounced it ply-dee on the song about the unfortunate effect of the wind on the young girl's plaidie...

Dunno if that's Scottish or Manc, though!

Chers

Nigel


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:33 PM

Not Scottish.

Got to run there's a really good thread on how to pronounce "Pronounce".


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Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 09:09 PM

Even within Scotland itself pronunciation varies: I've heard both playdee and pl(eye)dee as well as plad and plied.
And in some areas it's awah, and others awaw.
As they say in my singing group, we'd better all do the same if there's 25 at it at once!


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