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BS: Seen any good movies lately?

Dave the Gnome 27 Nov 22 - 11:49 AM
Bonzo3legs 25 Nov 22 - 07:28 PM
Donuel 25 Nov 22 - 07:20 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Nov 22 - 07:08 PM
meself 25 Nov 22 - 06:56 PM
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meself 22 Nov 22 - 03:07 PM
Dave the Gnome 21 Nov 22 - 11:28 AM
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Dave the Gnome 21 Nov 22 - 08:53 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Nov 22 - 11:49 AM

Django is great Bonzo. We can agree on that :-)

Just watched the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special on Disney and it is the best Christmas show ever! Kevin Bacon's Christmas song is pretty good too :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Nov 22 - 07:28 PM

Django unchained for the third time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Nov 22 - 07:20 PM

Ahh it was good. It had plenty of health, humor and history.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Nov 22 - 07:08 PM

We've just watched Topsy Turvy, all about Gilbert and Sullivan's angst-ridden progress towards their triumph which was The Mikado. As with any Mike Leigh film, absolutely grand!


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 25 Nov 22 - 06:56 PM

Secrets of War, a Dutch film about two boys whose friendship is tested by Nazi occupation and a new girl in town. Intelligent, sensitive, and poignant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Nov 22 - 06:01 PM

The Swimmers, on Netflix. A tough watch in these days of refugees but with a lovely feelgood factor too. See this or severely miss out. Warning to Brits: if you hate Sweller Braverman already, you'll be making a doll of her and sticking pins in it after you've seen this...


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Nov 22 - 01:54 PM

Couple years ago out came "Wonder Woman 2" I thought it managed to be hyperbolic, over acted, poorly written, and a trial of endurance. In other words, I didn't like it and even thought less of all the actors in it.

Meanwhile, the classics movie channel has put on one of my favorites which has held up super well. It's the 1949 classic noir/ crime flick about a clever but obsessive and violent criminal. James Cagney remade his career in "White Heat" directed by Raoul Walsh. If you've seen it you'll understand. The only reason to bring it up at this late date is if you may not have seen it due to differences in global coordinates or tender youth.

The only warnings are that the film is in black and white, is somewhat violent even for this time, and is unequivocally American and of its time. But it is clever, moves right along, and has one of the best progressions of the criminal's progress from minor to major.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 22 Nov 22 - 03:07 PM

The Man Who Knew Infinity - Edwardian era, unschooled East Indian mathematical genius is brought to Cambridge and does amazing things. Mathematically-challenged me found it thoroughly engaging and moving. Predictable in parts, I suppose, but so is life. "Based on a true story".


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Nov 22 - 11:28 AM

Watched Slumberland last night. Kid's film really but very enjoyable with good performances from Jason Mamoa and Chris O'Dowd. Good soundtrack too with an uptempo version of The Parting Glass tune recurring regularly


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Nov 22 - 11:20 AM

Keanu Reeves has mastered the ability to always look bored and pissed.
Maybe he is and he is not acting.

I assume bad movies are more plentiful than good ones.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 21 Nov 22 - 11:12 AM

Watched a Hungarian movie called The Shepherd the other night. The cinematography is beautiful ... but after ten minutes or so establishing the protagonist's peaceful if melancholy pastoral life, we're treated to an hour and a half or so of a slow-moving, unrelenting descent into Nazi brutality and sadism. By the end, all the 'good guys' have died horrible deaths and the Nazis carry on. I suppose it would be a worthwhile watch for anyone who needs to be reminded that the Nazis were the baddies, otherwise it is just very disturbing to no particular end ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Nov 22 - 08:53 AM

I can heartily recommend NOT watching Siberia starring Keanu Reeves. It was terrible. IMO of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Neil D
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 09:35 PM

Watch the Indian action epic "RRR" on Netflix. Three packed hours of pure unadulterated fun!


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 22 - 02:48 AM

Oh, and 600 :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 22 - 02:47 AM

Saw Wakanda Forever last night and it was really good. Yes, the CGI effects were spectacular and the body count was high but the story line, messages and acting are what makes it. Highly recommended and very enjoyable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 16 Nov 22 - 08:50 PM

Where I'm from, you watch movies in a theatre, and films in a cinema. Wait, scratch that - you watch movies in a theatre, and that's it. Films and cinemas are for another class of people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Nov 22 - 07:08 PM

As a kid, I drank soda pop... but mostly referred to brand names-- mostly Pepsi. I guess the most common short form I heard was pop.

Movies.. films? *shrug* I would have understood either, but 'movies' was the more popular word. There's a lot more U.K./U.S.A. words that bother me than those.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 09:09 AM

Incidentaly, something I have been thinking of for a while.

How come you watch movies in the 'states while we watch films in the UK? I think you also go to the movies while we go to the pictures or, sometimes, flicks. I can see where movies and pictures both have the same root in moving pictures but I find it odd how the phrase has mutated differently acrss the Atlantic.

Is the same true for soda (US) and pop (UK)? Do they both stem from soda pop?


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 07:59 AM

Green Lantern was my favourite as a kid and there are some animated films that are pretty good but the live action one with Ryan Reynolds was pretty dire. When Reynolds became Deadpool in an adjacent comic universe his references to GL were hilarious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 06:14 AM

The worst must be the current unreleased SH movie. As a kid, I could relate to the Flash since I could run.
As for green lantern, I'm a sucker for the passing the torch themes.
I can suspend belief but I can't abandon it forever.
Gnomes even existed. Remember the Hobbit skeletons?

Body counts used to be a thing in movies but now like in pandemics, the numbers are too high to grasp.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 04:12 AM

I'm hoping to see Wakanda Forever tonight or tomorrow. Watch this space :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 01:10 PM

Green Lantern was the second worse super hero film of all time. Cat Woman with Halle Berry was the worst!

Sorry Don. The layout of the site was so annoying I couldn't read it all :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 12:55 PM

Sorry Dave the link does contain Wakanda Forever death counts. Spoiler alert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 12:49 PM

I do have a snarky opinion of comic book movies but I don't think of myself as a snob since I have enjoyed Superman and Green Lantern.

Magical blue thingies are annoying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 11:40 AM

Hehehe. A bit like "I shall take a week off tomorrow" :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 11:32 AM

"I shall watch Wakanda forever next week" ... hmmm ... expecting it to be a bit of a bore, are you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 07:01 AM

Sorry Don but I don't understand that at all. Your link is to a killcount in Black Panther with no mention of Wakanda Forever. Are you having a bad day?

Tell you what. I shall watch Wakanda forever next week and let you know what I thought. After you have seen it, maybe your comments will carry more weight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 06:52 AM

You say 2 mato I say Tom ato. The first movie has a small body count compared to the sequel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 04:14 AM

I have not seen it yet but I believe "Black Panther - Wakanda Forever" is a sensitive portrayal of the loss of a loved one rather than a comedic CGI super hero movie. The actor who played Black Panther in the previous films, Chadwick Boseman, died of cancer after making the previous one and the grief for the loss of the character, I read, reflects the real life grief. I may go to see it next week.

In the meanwhile, following another sad loss, Robbie Coltrane, I have just watched the entire Cracker series on ITV hub. Brilliant. I would recommend it to anyone if only for Coltrane's portrayal of the very flawed psychologist, Fitz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 12:18 AM

I have not seen the new CGI super hero movie released this week 'Whacondom Forever'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 08 Nov 22 - 01:07 PM

Recently watched the 1994 BBC production of The Return of the Native. Good? Well ... uneven. Beautiful visually, in more ways than one - Zeta Somebody-Jones, whom we're all supposed to know, of course - is perfection as Eustacia; one of the few instances I've encountered in which the woman who plays the stunning beauty actually is - that's all subjective, though, of course. 'Mrs Yeobright' was great. 'Clym' was the real weak link; the actor never seemed to get a real grip on the part. The writer(s) got the essence of the novel down to 90 minutes without taking unreasonable liberties. The editing is clumsy; I got the impression they got rushing to patch it together to meet a deadline. If you like the look of rural Victoriana, and of course you do, you'll enjoy that aspect of it. It includes a couple of short bits of a 'village band' and mummering ....

I seem to be the only person on earth who has reservations about the novel itself: it's Hardy, so the writing and the play of ideas have depth - but the plot depends on more coincidences, accidents, improbabilities, and surprise inheritances than all of Shakespeare's comedies and The Complete Charles Dickens combined. The film benefits from having had to cut most of them out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: pattyClink
Date: 07 Nov 22 - 09:46 AM

Get well soon, Joe!!

I don't keep current on movies, but collect a small stash of classics on DVD, you might see if they are streamable now. "Mystery, Alaska" is a great comedy no one has ever heard of. "New in Town" is a fun rom-com set in Minnesota, might be comforting. And "Local Hero" is shot on location in a little village in Scotland.

If I had to sit still a good while, I might try to rewatch the series Treme, set in N.O. a year after Katrina and featuring a lot of musicians.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Nov 22 - 09:25 AM

On cable TV, I recorded and watched "The Lion in Winter". It won all sorts of acclaim and a best actress for Katharine Hepburn?.
It was dramatic and visually amazing... but the plot, taken loosely from history, was tedious.... as everyone's personality kept bouncing from 'friendly' to 'hateful'. They all accused each other of lying and sometimes admitting it and sometimes denying in order to jockey for personal advantage. It was almost impossible to guess who supported whom from one moment to the next.
   The ending was almost a parody of whatever the overall point was! I can't say I enjoyed it, but was merely fascinated, like watching a train wreck in slow motion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Nov 22 - 08:27 PM

A Netflix drama 'Inside Man' convinced me that absolutely anyone can become a murderer. Stanley Tucci was brilliant.

get well soon Joe, Life of Pi is visually stunning.
Richard Parker was a strange bedfellow whether he was real or a psychological construct like 'Wilson'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 22 - 06:26 PM

I'm home with COVID, so it's a good time to catch up on movies. I watched "Life of Pi" last night, and really liked it. It's kinda like Tom Hanks in "Cast Away," but the young Indian protagonist is accompanied by a tiger, not a basketball. And the tiger is not very nice.

I was surprised how much I liked Disney's "Cruella," with Emily Blunt as the protagonist. Kinda like "The Devil Wears Prada," but with Emma Thompson instead of Meryl Streep as the fashion designer villain.

I'm too snuffly to read easily, but it doesn't seem to keep me from enjoying movies.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Mrr whose computer RsIP
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 01:41 PM

Loved The Hobbit and didn't think it was too Teletubby except Gollum and the Great Goblin. Forgivable. The Dwarves are great but aren't stunted enough for me... but I am hearing from people that they now feel ripped off that LOTR didn't last for 9 movies. I am not thinking that, I always liked The Hobbit so much more anyway.
But I also saw Django - really enjoyed that too, to my surprise,it hadn't sounded anything I would like.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:45 PM

Quartet - Seven Psychopaths both magic
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 11:21 AM

Well, I just can't relate to the idea of a race that's "hatched out of the ground". ;-) Seems unlikely to me.

If anyone is familiar with the role-playing game "Oblivion", it has a world in which Orcs are one of about 8 different races in that game (3 distinct races of Elves, 3 distinct races of Humans, some Lizard beings, some feline beings, and the Orcs). The Orcs in Oblivion are much of the type I'm describing, civilized but rather fierce creatures, and they fit right in socially with all the other races, take part in the society as the others do, and have much the same concerns and abilities.

Every race in Oblivion naturally thinks well of itself! Every race has its own special talents and weaknesses. They're all proud of being what they are, Orcs included. But they have found ways of getting along with each other too for mutual benefit, although there are some racial tensions and prejudices between them, for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 11:10 AM

My deal, and indulge me, is that, all kidding aside, the film orcs are "Peter Jackson Orcs". I like the Little Hawk Orcs a lot--also all kidding aside--they have great story possibilities--anti-heroes. On reflection--aren't orcs reminiscent of Morlocks?

My question is, did Tolkien develop them more? I know that LOTR was actually the last
part of a much longer story that he'd started years before "The Hobbit' was published.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 11:07 AM

Why would they have a family structure if they are "hatched" out of the ground { if I remember correctly }?


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:33 AM

My feeling is that Orcs are not very much like the ones in the Tolkien films, most of whom look like reanimated corpses hopped up on some kind of violent drug effect. I think that real Orcs would have a different skin colour, yes...and different features from humans or Elves, etc. They'd probably be strongly built, large-boned, and rather fierce looking. They'd probably have a society that involved families, same as other societies do, and that would mean wives and children, and communities. They'd probably be at war with Elves, Humans, and Dwarves all right, because of the cultural differences. They'd probably have a religion, a social philosophy, and a history. They would think of themselves as "the good guys". They'd probably be more nocturnal than diurnal (same as wolves, cats, coyotes, owls, bats, etc). They would know how to make clothing, weapons, houses, jewelry, etc.

There would always be the possibility of a temporary truce being made between the Orcs and various of the other races...depending on their leaders and events. They would probably trade with the other races from time to time.

Until you respect and try to understand the Orc...don't expect him to ever respect or try to understand you! ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:21 AM

In order to make Orcs more sympathetic - coming soon......

ORCS - The Musical.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:13 AM

But are they Tolkien Orcs? That's what Little Hawk is talking about. Not those generic ones.
Tolkien Orcs look like Star Wars characters that are dead and decomposing. Generic ones just look like Bruce Willis with chronic depression.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 10:58 PM

Some of my best friends are orcs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 02:46 PM

Sure, the depiction of the Orcs in the films works...in the context of the films. But it makes them less interesting than Gollum...as characters...because they have no depth of character.

And that is basically my point.

"Were not the concentration camp guards who committed mass murder worse than any creature in a LOTR book?"

Actually, I think not. Various people among those guards were, in fact, stricken with a deep sense of guilt over what they were doing...or had done...because they were given orders to do it and they were deeply afraid to disobey those orders...in fear of losing their own lives in front of a firing squad. This was also true of many German soldiers in the field who were ordered to summarily execute prisoners (It happend a lot in Russia, specially. And the Russians were doing that to the Germans too, of course...hard to say who started doing it first, and it probably doesn't matter.). Many of those German soldiers and guards who had committed atrocities ordered by their commanders suffered great remorse over what they had done, and some committed suicide because of it.

I think this makes them considerably better and more human individuals than various of the evil creatures in LOTR. If someone is capable of repentance and regret over his own misdeeds, he is clearly not entirely evil. He's more likely someone who wasn't quite strong enough to stand up and say "No, I won't do that."...and face the consequences.

I've never seen the slightest reluctance in a Tolkien Orc or other monster to commit atrocities. This makes them quite different from we humans, who must usually be persuaded to do so over a period of time by gradually being numbed to what we are really doing by political propaganda, coercion, prejudice, and fear. In our case, that's tragic...and tragedy makes for very interesting drama.

There's nothing tragic about the demise of a crowd of Middle Earth Orcs, is there?

But the fall of Berlin in WWII was an astoundingly tragic event in terms of what happened to the people and the city...an event that resulted in death, misery, and despair falling on a vast number of innocent, ordinary people (and a group of tragically flawed idealogues and a few outright fanatics in the command structure) most of whom were just unlucky enough to have been born German, in the wrong place, at the absolute wrong time. They came under bad political leadership. It could happen to us someday, just like that.

We don't see anything tragic in the fall of Mordor, however. There isn't one shred of goodness in Mordor to feel sorry about. This makes it good for a fictional story, but completely unreal at the same time. In this world, there are always a lot of good people on the opposing side in any war...people you'd have been glad to have as friends under a different circumstance.

I can't imagine having a Tolkien Orc as a friend! ;-) Nope. That wouldn't work too well at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 01:14 PM

Your points about the orcs and goblins are valid. But looking at it from a story telling point of view, or even from the point of view of the characters, where the only interaction with the creatures is danger. The point of view of a hobbit viewing a group of Orc's the hobbit would not likely be pricy to the campfire conversation and music of those hunting him as dogs hunt rabbits.

In the Star Trek universe Klingons started out universally bad until further development made them admirable allies, at which time they were replaced as evil antagonists by Cardassians and Borg.

Getting back to point of view and the war you brought up, If the Japanese Islanders had seen the invading Marines as people like themselves would they have flung themselves and their children off cliffs rather than surrender? Were not the concentration camp guards who committed mass murder worse than any creature in a LOTR book? Gassing people, making lampshades of them? But yet they had mothers wives and children and probably drank beer and ate sausage in October.

I don't think the LOTR movies need sympathetic orcs anymore than a movies including Gestapo and SS troops need scenes of baby NAZIs eating black forest cake with their moms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 12:37 PM

You are perfectly right, Little Hawk. Disturbing right, actually.

The orcs were elves, the highest born of Middle Earth. They show us
what happens to even the highest born when they become obsessed with the Ring of Power. Gollum shows us the psychological process that turns even a loveable hobbit into a creature that eats its own kind. That's why the ring has to be destroyed.

Given that Tolkien says that the orcs were elves, he could have given them all histories, but with all that added back story, LOTR would have been really long;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 12:33 PM

It's definitely in my top 10.

Another one that's right up there for me is "Groundhog Day".


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 12:02 PM

>'The Last of the Mohicans' - which is my favourite film of all time!

It certainly has one of the best scores, plus the presence of Madeleine Stowe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 11:59 AM

I watched 'Catch Me If You Can' the other night. It's based on a true story in which a 1960s American teenager pulled off a sequence of amazing and audacious frauds before eventually being caught by a very persistent FBI agent.

Somewhere above, Little Hawk mentions (Michael Mann's) 'The Last of the Mohicans' - which is my favourite film of all time!


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