BS: Seen any good movies lately?

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 07:33 PM

Schindler's List is about one self-absorbed criminal opportunist whose dormant human decency is finally awakened. It has the virtue of being more or less a true story, and certainly makes no novel claims about the nature of the Holocaust.

"Life is Beautiful," on the other hand, says that Auschwitz was not so bad, and that only a gloomy Eeyore would let a Holocaust or a Gulag or a Nagasaki or a Cultural Revolution of exploding Towers dampen his sense of fun. For Benigni, the smile of a happy child and his unfazed mom tells us all we need to know about such silly annoyances. Life is beautiful!

Benigni has also said that the only way we can "get past" the Holocaust is to "laugh at it."

That proves he's a fool no matter what he thinks he means.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 09:38 PM

Okay, I just saw "The Hobbit". Nice movie. Much as I would have expected. Lovely to look at. And it's always good to see those magnificent Elves, the very image of what we humans could be if we rose to our very best...although they only appeared for short segments. Nice to see the Dwarves get their day on film too.

The section with Gollum was the most memorable part.

It won't have near the impact the LOTR trilogy did, but I think the fans will mostly enjoy it.

I also enjoyed seeing all the interior shots of "Bag End", and, no, I didn't find the movie "too slow", but I do think it's a bit much to stretch that particular story out to 3 movies. 2 movies would probably do it fine.

I do find it a bit odd that a dozen Dwarves can repeatedly fight vast numbers of Orcs, assorted monsters, and Goblins, slay them in droves, yet not lose a single Dwarf while they're doing it.

That doesn't happen in real war. It gets a bit silly after awhile, watching it happen onscreen. I think Orcs and Goblins can fight better than that. If they couldn't, they'd all just give up, surrender, and go home. And after all, where is the drama in watching battles where they never lose a single man on the "good guys" side? And do Orcs and Goblins also have mothers who weep when their sons don't come home? (It seems quite likely that they would....if they really existed at all.)

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 12:10 AM

I just watched Enchanted on NBC. I had seen it before. It's a light, frothy bit of fluff. Amy Adams was a delight.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: alex s
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 08:47 AM

Hugo

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 12:52 PM

"I do find it a bit odd that a dozen Dwarves can repeatedly fight vast numbers of Orcs, assorted monsters, and Goblins, slay them in droves, yet not lose a single Dwarf while they're doing it. "

Well duh - It's because they are the GOOD guys.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 01:28 PM

Yeah, sure....but do you get what I mean about that sense of unreality that sets in after awhile when the "good guys" don't lose a single man while slaying hundreds or thousands?

I mean...why even worry about the good guys if they are to all intents immortal??? ;-) It defeats the sense of real drama for me.

In a great movie, "The Last of the Mohicans", a number of important characters we've come to know well and probably empathize with die during the movie. That gives it a hell of a lot more emotional impact than if they had slain upwards of 5,000 Iroquois warriors and all made it through without losing a single life on their own side, doesn't it?

The general public apparently prefers (or at least has fed TO them) completely unreal fantasies where only the "bad guys" die...and by the hundreds. Well, that's just silly. Mind you, they did have some heroic Dwarves die in the flashbacks....apparently the Orcs did know how to fight back then! ;-)

It's a minor complaint. I did quite liked the movie anyway, and I expect I'll like the next 2 installments of it.

We don't live in a world so simple that you can tell the "good guys" and the "bad guys" from what race or nation they belong to. Some would like it to be that way, some are even deluded enough to think it IS that way, but it never will be.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 02:08 PM

"It defeats the sense of real drama for me."

I'm not sure you should attempt to find "real" in a book about Hobbits....

What bothers me in the movies - among other things - is guns that never seem to need reloading. Or a man and woman who hate each other until they look longingly into each other eyes,kiss and discover that they really DO love each other.Even though they have nothing in common.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 02:11 PM

"We don't live in a world so simple that you can tell the "good guys" and the "bad guys" from what race or nation they belong to. Some would like it to be that way, some are even deluded enough to think it IS that way, but it never will be."

I take your point, but to be pedantic it's not a good analogy LH, because both Goblins AND Orcs were *created* by evil people to *be* bad. As of course were the Uruk-hai too. :P

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 02:29 PM

Yeah, those last 2 things bother me too, Wesley. ;-)

As for stories, I think a fictional story, to be a good story, needs some real drama in it just as much as a nonfictional story does...generally speaking...in order to be effective as a story. There might be the odd exception here and there.

The one thing I find weak about Tolkien's stories (and they are brilliant) is the idea of having specific races of beings that are intrinsically evil by their very nature. It's just a dumb idea. You don't find any situation in real life where that happens....but it's a common device in stories, because we use them to play out symbolic dramas between supposed opposites...or archetypes of good and evil. Such opposites are crude outer symbols of the moral struggle between light and darkness that occurs within each one of us during our entire lives.

Gollum is a very interesting character, precisely because we are aware that he wasn't intrisincally evil in his original nature...but fell from grace! That makes him tragic...and it makes him interesting in a way that the Orcs and Goblins and other "Bad Guys" like Sauron never will be. They're not presented as real characters at all. They never had any grace or innocence to fall from. They're one-dimensional cardboard cutouts of evil, and nothing more.

That's the way people once saw wolves. We don't see wolves that way anymore, do we? They're just ordinary animals who hunt to live, same as many other animals do. We see wolves more realistically now than we once did, because we've set aside the ancient myth of their supposedly "evil" nature. You have to understand wolves and their place in Nature to get beyond the myth.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 04:24 PM

I saw "The Hobbit", and was very surprised, in a good way. It's a better movie than any of the other LOTR films, partly because it has a lot of humor, partly because Bilbo is a much more interesting character than Frodo, but mostly because the story line doesn't disappear for 20 minutes at a time in battle scenes.

Just so you know, I am slightly OC checking this stuff, and went back and watched all three LOTRs just to make sure...

One thing to remember is that Peter Jackson is the "auteur" of the films, not JRRT, and he isn't as good a story teller.

As to the orcs, you gotta love them...aren't they really zombies? They are just lumbering corpses who are going to going to be cut to pieces, and they are so enthusiastic...they haven't got a clue....

Little Hawk, if you liked "Looking for a Friend..." you will probably like "Safety Not Guaranteed"--it's about some low-end reporters who find a personal ad from someone seeking companion for time travel, and decide to find the person who placed the ad and do a feature story about him.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Janie
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 10:17 PM

Just watched "12 O'Clock High" with my son on Netflix. I'd never seen it. A good way to spend an evening at home.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 08:55 AM

"12 O'Clock High" is a true classic. Gregory Peck was just as compelling then as he was thirteen years later in "To Kill a Mockingbird."

The mid '60s series was good too, for TV, but it quickly deteriorated when star Robert Lansing was deemed too "old" to pull in the ratings.

So the producers killed off General Savage, dropped his tough boss (John Larkin, whose jaw was squarer than Dick Tracy's), and replaced them with a colonel (Paul Burke) who led everybody (including a young guy with blow-dried hair) in simpler, less psychologically-oriented adventures.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 11:40 AM

"12 O'Clock High" was a very fine film indeed.

Stim - Brilliant! (your comments on The Hobbit) Having given what you said some consideration...I think you're absolutely right in what you say, comparing "The Hobbit" to the LOTR trilogy. They'd have had to make LOTR into about 10 full length movies to get in all the less action-oriented stuff, the humour, the songs, all that other more subtle stuff that was in the books. Maybe they should have...

Regarding the Orcs. Okay...maybe Tolkien saw them as having been "created" by magic specifically to BE evil...therefore they are only 2-dimensional creatures with no natural characteristics. If so, it makes them unrealistic as a race of beings, and it's Tolkien's error. He was, after all, symbolically playing out the great struggle of his own time (WWII) in his story about good and evil in Middle Earth...so it seems that the Orcs and Goblins were intended to represent the legions of the Fascist powers in WWII. Well...the young men who served in German, Italian, and Japanese forces were not evil monsters created by some wizard in a castle. ;-) They were perfectly ordinary young men of their time, born into unusual political circumstances, and like the soldiers in all the other countries who fought, they went to war for the usual reasons: duty, honour, country, tradition, patriotism, loyalty, obedience to authority...and because it seemed completely unavoidable at the time.

So they were real people, just like us, serving a very bad and misguided political system that ruled over them. Like us, they experienced love, hope, and every form of human idealism.

If there really were a race of Orcs or Goblins, I expect that they too would turn out to be quite complicated beings, much like us, and not simple cardboard cutouts of pure evil. And that's how I'd have looked at it, if I were Tolkien. But since he didn't write it that way, the movies have depicted the Orcs much as Tolkien would have wanted, I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 11:59 AM

I watched 'Catch Me If You Can' the other night. It's based on a true story in which a 1960s American teenager pulled off a sequence of amazing and audacious frauds before eventually being caught by a very persistent FBI agent.

Somewhere above, Little Hawk mentions (Michael Mann's) 'The Last of the Mohicans' - which is my favourite film of all time!

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 12:02 PM

>'The Last of the Mohicans' - which is my favourite film of all time!

It certainly has one of the best scores, plus the presence of Madeleine Stowe.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 12:33 PM

It's definitely in my top 10.

Another one that's right up there for me is "Groundhog Day".

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 12:37 PM

You are perfectly right, Little Hawk. Disturbing right, actually.

The orcs were elves, the highest born of Middle Earth. They show us
what happens to even the highest born when they become obsessed with the Ring of Power. Gollum shows us the psychological process that turns even a loveable hobbit into a creature that eats its own kind. That's why the ring has to be destroyed.

Given that Tolkien says that the orcs were elves, he could have given them all histories, but with all that added back story, LOTR would have been really long;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 01:14 PM

Your points about the orcs and goblins are valid. But looking at it from a story telling point of view, or even from the point of view of the characters, where the only interaction with the creatures is danger. The point of view of a hobbit viewing a group of Orc's the hobbit would not likely be pricy to the campfire conversation and music of those hunting him as dogs hunt rabbits.

In the Star Trek universe Klingons started out universally bad until further development made them admirable allies, at which time they were replaced as evil antagonists by Cardassians and Borg.

Getting back to point of view and the war you brought up, If the Japanese Islanders had seen the invading Marines as people like themselves would they have flung themselves and their children off cliffs rather than surrender? Were not the concentration camp guards who committed mass murder worse than any creature in a LOTR book? Gassing people, making lampshades of them? But yet they had mothers wives and children and probably drank beer and ate sausage in October.

I don't think the LOTR movies need sympathetic orcs anymore than a movies including Gestapo and SS troops need scenes of baby NAZIs eating black forest cake with their moms.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 02:46 PM

Sure, the depiction of the Orcs in the films works...in the context of the films. But it makes them less interesting than Gollum...as characters...because they have no depth of character.

And that is basically my point.

"Were not the concentration camp guards who committed mass murder worse than any creature in a LOTR book?"

Actually, I think not. Various people among those guards were, in fact, stricken with a deep sense of guilt over what they were doing...or had done...because they were given orders to do it and they were deeply afraid to disobey those orders...in fear of losing their own lives in front of a firing squad. This was also true of many German soldiers in the field who were ordered to summarily execute prisoners (It happend a lot in Russia, specially. And the Russians were doing that to the Germans too, of course...hard to say who started doing it first, and it probably doesn't matter.). Many of those German soldiers and guards who had committed atrocities ordered by their commanders suffered great remorse over what they had done, and some committed suicide because of it.

I think this makes them considerably better and more human individuals than various of the evil creatures in LOTR. If someone is capable of repentance and regret over his own misdeeds, he is clearly not entirely evil. He's more likely someone who wasn't quite strong enough to stand up and say "No, I won't do that."...and face the consequences.

I've never seen the slightest reluctance in a Tolkien Orc or other monster to commit atrocities. This makes them quite different from we humans, who must usually be persuaded to do so over a period of time by gradually being numbed to what we are really doing by political propaganda, coercion, prejudice, and fear. In our case, that's tragic...and tragedy makes for very interesting drama.

There's nothing tragic about the demise of a crowd of Middle Earth Orcs, is there?

But the fall of Berlin in WWII was an astoundingly tragic event in terms of what happened to the people and the city...an event that resulted in death, misery, and despair falling on a vast number of innocent, ordinary people (and a group of tragically flawed idealogues and a few outright fanatics in the command structure) most of whom were just unlucky enough to have been born German, in the wrong place, at the absolute wrong time. They came under bad political leadership. It could happen to us someday, just like that.

We don't see anything tragic in the fall of Mordor, however. There isn't one shred of goodness in Mordor to feel sorry about. This makes it good for a fictional story, but completely unreal at the same time. In this world, there are always a lot of good people on the opposing side in any war...people you'd have been glad to have as friends under a different circumstance.

I can't imagine having a Tolkien Orc as a friend! ;-) Nope. That wouldn't work too well at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 10:58 PM

Some of my best friends are orcs.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:13 AM

But are they Tolkien Orcs? That's what Little Hawk is talking about. Not those generic ones.
Tolkien Orcs look like Star Wars characters that are dead and decomposing. Generic ones just look like Bruce Willis with chronic depression.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:21 AM

In order to make Orcs more sympathetic - coming soon......

ORCS - The Musical.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 10:33 AM

My feeling is that Orcs are not very much like the ones in the Tolkien films, most of whom look like reanimated corpses hopped up on some kind of violent drug effect. I think that real Orcs would have a different skin colour, yes...and different features from humans or Elves, etc. They'd probably be strongly built, large-boned, and rather fierce looking. They'd probably have a society that involved families, same as other societies do, and that would mean wives and children, and communities. They'd probably be at war with Elves, Humans, and Dwarves all right, because of the cultural differences. They'd probably have a religion, a social philosophy, and a history. They would think of themselves as "the good guys". They'd probably be more nocturnal than diurnal (same as wolves, cats, coyotes, owls, bats, etc). They would know how to make clothing, weapons, houses, jewelry, etc.

There would always be the possibility of a temporary truce being made between the Orcs and various of the other races...depending on their leaders and events. They would probably trade with the other races from time to time.

Until you respect and try to understand the Orc...don't expect him to ever respect or try to understand you! ;-D

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 11:07 AM

Why would they have a family structure if they are "hatched" out of the ground { if I remember correctly }?

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 11:10 AM

My deal, and indulge me, is that, all kidding aside, the film orcs are "Peter Jackson Orcs". I like the Little Hawk Orcs a lot--also all kidding aside--they have great story possibilities--anti-heroes. On reflection--aren't orcs reminiscent of Morlocks?

My question is, did Tolkien develop them more? I know that LOTR was actually the last
part of a much longer story that he'd started years before "The Hobbit' was published.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 11:21 AM

Well, I just can't relate to the idea of a race that's "hatched out of the ground". ;-) Seems unlikely to me.

If anyone is familiar with the role-playing game "Oblivion", it has a world in which Orcs are one of about 8 different races in that game (3 distinct races of Elves, 3 distinct races of Humans, some Lizard beings, some feline beings, and the Orcs). The Orcs in Oblivion are much of the type I'm describing, civilized but rather fierce creatures, and they fit right in socially with all the other races, take part in the society as the others do, and have much the same concerns and abilities.

Every race in Oblivion naturally thinks well of itself! Every race has its own special talents and weaknesses. They're all proud of being what they are, Orcs included. But they have found ways of getting along with each other too for mutual benefit, although there are some racial tensions and prejudices between them, for sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:45 PM

Quartet - Seven Psychopaths both magic
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: GUEST,Mrr whose computer RsIP
Date: 08 Jan 13 - 01:41 PM

Loved The Hobbit and didn't think it was too Teletubby except Gollum and the Great Goblin. Forgivable. The Dwarves are great but aren't stunted enough for me... but I am hearing from people that they now feel ripped off that LOTR didn't last for 9 movies. I am not thinking that, I always liked The Hobbit so much more anyway.
But I also saw Django - really enjoyed that too, to my surprise,it hadn't sounded anything I would like.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 22 - 06:26 PM

I'm home with COVID, so it's a good time to catch up on movies. I watched "Life of Pi" last night, and really liked it. It's kinda like Tom Hanks in "Cast Away," but the young Indian protagonist is accompanied by a tiger, not a basketball. And the tiger is not very nice.

I was surprised how much I liked Disney's "Cruella," with Emily Blunt as the protagonist. Kinda like "The Devil Wears Prada," but with Emma Thompson instead of Meryl Streep as the fashion designer villain.

I'm too snuffly to read easily, but it doesn't seem to keep me from enjoying movies.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Nov 22 - 08:27 PM

A Netflix drama 'Inside Man' convinced me that absolutely anyone can become a murderer. Stanley Tucci was brilliant.

get well soon Joe, Life of Pi is visually stunning.
Richard Parker was a strange bedfellow whether he was real or a psychological construct like 'Wilson'.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Nov 22 - 09:25 AM

On cable TV, I recorded and watched "The Lion in Winter". It won all sorts of acclaim and a best actress for Katharine Hepburn?.
It was dramatic and visually amazing... but the plot, taken loosely from history, was tedious.... as everyone's personality kept bouncing from 'friendly' to 'hateful'. They all accused each other of lying and sometimes admitting it and sometimes denying in order to jockey for personal advantage. It was almost impossible to guess who supported whom from one moment to the next.
   The ending was almost a parody of whatever the overall point was! I can't say I enjoyed it, but was merely fascinated, like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: pattyClink
Date: 07 Nov 22 - 09:46 AM

Get well soon, Joe!!

I don't keep current on movies, but collect a small stash of classics on DVD, you might see if they are streamable now. "Mystery, Alaska" is a great comedy no one has ever heard of. "New in Town" is a fun rom-com set in Minnesota, might be comforting. And "Local Hero" is shot on location in a little village in Scotland.

If I had to sit still a good while, I might try to rewatch the series Treme, set in N.O. a year after Katrina and featuring a lot of musicians.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 08 Nov 22 - 01:07 PM

Recently watched the 1994 BBC production of The Return of the Native. Good? Well ... uneven. Beautiful visually, in more ways than one - Zeta Somebody-Jones, whom we're all supposed to know, of course - is perfection as Eustacia; one of the few instances I've encountered in which the woman who plays the stunning beauty actually is - that's all subjective, though, of course. 'Mrs Yeobright' was great. 'Clym' was the real weak link; the actor never seemed to get a real grip on the part. The writer(s) got the essence of the novel down to 90 minutes without taking unreasonable liberties. The editing is clumsy; I got the impression they got rushing to patch it together to meet a deadline. If you like the look of rural Victoriana, and of course you do, you'll enjoy that aspect of it. It includes a couple of short bits of a 'village band' and mummering ....

I seem to be the only person on earth who has reservations about the novel itself: it's Hardy, so the writing and the play of ideas have depth - but the plot depends on more coincidences, accidents, improbabilities, and surprise inheritances than all of Shakespeare's comedies and The Complete Charles Dickens combined. The film benefits from having had to cut most of them out.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 12:18 AM

I have not seen the new CGI super hero movie released this week 'Whacondom Forever'.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 04:14 AM

I have not seen it yet but I believe "Black Panther - Wakanda Forever" is a sensitive portrayal of the loss of a loved one rather than a comedic CGI super hero movie. The actor who played Black Panther in the previous films, Chadwick Boseman, died of cancer after making the previous one and the grief for the loss of the character, I read, reflects the real life grief. I may go to see it next week.

In the meanwhile, following another sad loss, Robbie Coltrane, I have just watched the entire Cracker series on ITV hub. Brilliant. I would recommend it to anyone if only for Coltrane's portrayal of the very flawed psychologist, Fitz.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 06:52 AM

You say 2 mato I say Tom ato. The first movie has a small body count compared to the sequel.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 07:01 AM

Sorry Don but I don't understand that at all. Your link is to a killcount in Black Panther with no mention of Wakanda Forever. Are you having a bad day?

Tell you what. I shall watch Wakanda forever next week and let you know what I thought. After you have seen it, maybe your comments will carry more weight.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 11:32 AM

"I shall watch Wakanda forever next week" ... hmmm ... expecting it to be a bit of a bore, are you?

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 11:40 AM

Hehehe. A bit like "I shall take a week off tomorrow" :-D

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 12:49 PM

I do have a snarky opinion of comic book movies but I don't think of myself as a snob since I have enjoyed Superman and Green Lantern.

Magical blue thingies are annoying.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 12:55 PM

Sorry Dave the link does contain Wakanda Forever death counts. Spoiler alert.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 01:10 PM

Green Lantern was the second worse super hero film of all time. Cat Woman with Halle Berry was the worst!

Sorry Don. The layout of the site was so annoying I couldn't read it all :-(

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 04:12 AM

I'm hoping to see Wakanda Forever tonight or tomorrow. Watch this space :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 06:14 AM

The worst must be the current unreleased SH movie. As a kid, I could relate to the Flash since I could run.
As for green lantern, I'm a sucker for the passing the torch themes.
I can suspend belief but I can't abandon it forever.
Gnomes even existed. Remember the Hobbit skeletons?

Body counts used to be a thing in movies but now like in pandemics, the numbers are too high to grasp.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 07:59 AM

Green Lantern was my favourite as a kid and there are some animated films that are pretty good but the live action one with Ryan Reynolds was pretty dire. When Reynolds became Deadpool in an adjacent comic universe his references to GL were hilarious.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Nov 22 - 09:09 AM

Incidentaly, something I have been thinking of for a while.

How come you watch movies in the 'states while we watch films in the UK? I think you also go to the movies while we go to the pictures or, sometimes, flicks. I can see where movies and pictures both have the same root in moving pictures but I find it odd how the phrase has mutated differently acrss the Atlantic.

Is the same true for soda (US) and pop (UK)? Do they both stem from soda pop?

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Nov 22 - 07:08 PM

As a kid, I drank soda pop... but mostly referred to brand names-- mostly Pepsi. I guess the most common short form I heard was pop.

Movies.. films? *shrug* I would have understood either, but 'movies' was the more popular word. There's a lot more U.K./U.S.A. words that bother me than those.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: meself
Date: 16 Nov 22 - 08:50 PM

Where I'm from, you watch movies in a theatre, and films in a cinema. Wait, scratch that - you watch movies in a theatre, and that's it. Films and cinemas are for another class of people.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 22 - 02:47 AM

Saw Wakanda Forever last night and it was really good. Yes, the CGI effects were spectacular and the body count was high but the story line, messages and acting are what makes it. Highly recommended and very enjoyable.

Subject: RE: BS: Seen any good movies lately?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Nov 22 - 02:48 AM

Oh, and 600 :-D