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BS: dead stupid....etc...

Little Hawk 19 Feb 08 - 12:25 PM
Megan L 19 Feb 08 - 12:29 PM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Feb 08 - 12:35 PM
Little Hawk 19 Feb 08 - 12:40 PM
redsnapper 19 Feb 08 - 12:41 PM
Stilly River Sage 19 Feb 08 - 12:42 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 19 Feb 08 - 12:51 PM
Wolfgang 19 Feb 08 - 01:00 PM
PoppaGator 19 Feb 08 - 01:19 PM
Leadfingers 19 Feb 08 - 01:20 PM
Amos 19 Feb 08 - 01:39 PM
Ebbie 19 Feb 08 - 01:44 PM
Little Hawk 19 Feb 08 - 02:06 PM
Jim Carroll 19 Feb 08 - 02:57 PM
Linda Kelly 19 Feb 08 - 03:00 PM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Feb 08 - 05:33 PM
Little Hawk 19 Feb 08 - 06:04 PM
Gurney 19 Feb 08 - 06:16 PM
Rapparee 19 Feb 08 - 08:05 PM
Ebbie 20 Feb 08 - 01:06 AM
Barry Finn 20 Feb 08 - 02:04 AM
Little Hawk 20 Feb 08 - 02:04 AM
Georgiansilver 20 Feb 08 - 02:16 AM
The Fooles Troupe 20 Feb 08 - 02:23 AM
GUEST,PMB 20 Feb 08 - 03:09 AM
Rapparee 20 Feb 08 - 09:19 AM
An Buachaill Caol Dubh 20 Feb 08 - 12:34 PM
catspaw49 20 Feb 08 - 01:27 PM
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McGrath of Harlow 20 Feb 08 - 08:48 PM
Dead Horse 21 Feb 08 - 07:19 AM
GUEST,Art Thieme 21 Feb 08 - 01:11 PM
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Subject: BS: dead stupid....etc...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:25 PM

One of the best UK expressions! Just link the word "dead" with any other adjective in order to raise it to the ultimate amplitude:

dead stupid - as stupid as a person can possibly get

dead lazy - lazier than the laziest hound dog in Georgia

dead ugly - so ugly that you can break a mirror just by looking at it


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From: Megan L
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:29 PM

Or in Glasgow "See that thats pure dead brilliant so it is"


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:35 PM

Dead dead?


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:40 PM

That would mean no hope of resuscitation whatsoever.


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From: redsnapper
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:41 PM

Dead cert = probability that a thread discussing what folk music is will degenerate into an acrimonious free-for-all


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:42 PM

Waking the Dead is a British murder mystery we see on PBS here. Of course, they're not really awake. . .


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From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 12:51 PM

'dead' must have been used in every possible sense.
dead last
dead in the water
dead as a mackerel, dodo, etc.
dead wind
dead straight
dead hand
dead vote
dead certain
dead lives
dead wood
dead ice
dead steam
dead silence
dead pull
dead water
dead center
dead time
dead drunk
dead level
dead calm
dead-alive
dead beat
dead head
dead ahead
dead slow
dead on
dead shot
dead eye
deadfall
dead letter
dead heat
dead weight
dead dumb
etc., &c., and so forth


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Subject: RE: BS: dead stupid....etc...
From: Wolfgang
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 01:00 PM

UK expression?

I've learned that use of "dead" from a Canadian Native. When I told him about my dangerous habit of forcing cars to a halt with my bicycle when it is my right to pass first he quipped: "One day you may not just be right you may even be dead right."

Wolfgang


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From: PoppaGator
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 01:19 PM

This usage may be more prevalent in the UK than elsewhere, but it is certainly not unknown in the US. "Dead certain," for example, is very common and familiar hereabouts, although other constructions, like "dead stupid," would be less so.

This reminds me of a similar linguistic quirk, this one more strictly regional: New Englanders' predeliction for the word "wicked" as an all-purpose intensifier. My favorite paradoxical example: "wicked good."


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From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 01:20 PM

Ithought this thread may have been a Darwin Awards comment !

Clicky


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Subject: RE: BS: dead stupid....etc...
From: Amos
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 01:39 PM

American English has plenty of uses of the word "dead" to mean "absolute" or "completely", a sin "top dead center", "dead slow ahead" (a maritime engine-room command), and "dead-eye dick" for a sharpshooter. Although why anyone would use his dick for that purpose is beyond me. Cf. "dead-eyes", the lignum vitae blocks used for securing ratlines to chainplates in older vessels.



A


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From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 01:44 PM

I once heard someone report that someone had been killed dead.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 02:06 PM

It is far more prevalent in the UK. If someone calls someone else "dead stupid", you can practically guarantee that it's someone from the UK using the expression.

There are, however, other expressions such as "dead drunk" which are to be found commonly in all English-speaking cultures. Same goes for "dead right".


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From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 02:57 PM

In Liverpool we used to refer to people with no personality as 'Dead Lash' - stopped using it when I realised the connection with one of my favourite comediens Mort Sahl - Mort = Dead (Latin) Sahl = (anagram of lash).
Jim Carroll


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From: Linda Kelly
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 03:00 PM

ken dodd's dad's dog's dead.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 05:33 PM

No one's mentioned "dead good" so far. Oddly enough I can't see anyonee ever saying "dead bad".


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Subject: RE: BS: dead stupid....etc...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 06:04 PM

Anyone who's read the delightful Adrian Mole books will be quite familiar with the typical UK uses of "dead (whatever)".

His hated rival Barry Kent, for example, impresses Adrian's favorite girl of the time (Pandora Braithwaite?) by his habit of sticking safety pins through his facial skin (he was going through a punk phase). The girl says she thinks Barry is "dead brave" for doing that. Adrian responds sarcastically that he thinks Barry is "dead stupid" for doing that.

On this occasion, I'd have to agree with Adrian. ;-) In Barry Kent's defence though, I must admit the lad has plenty of physical courage...something Adrian Mole is conspicuously lacking in.


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From: Gurney
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 06:16 PM

I have a dead-blow hammer somewhere.
Honest.

It doesn't mean what some folks probably think it means.



It is hollow, with metal balls inside. It doesn't rebound when used.




A very young lady once exclaimed to me "That's dead killing, that is!"
I think she meant it was good.


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From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 08:05 PM

I'm a dead shot, shooting things dead center every time I take dead aim.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:06 AM

I hope you're shooting at a dead end, Rap.


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From: Barry Finn
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:04 AM

I don't know where I've picked this up, but I'm fond of using backwards expresions. "She's drop dead gorgeous" (couldn't be more pretty).

Barry


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:04 AM

Dead likely.


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From: Georgiansilver
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:16 AM

Your idea for this thread was 'dead on' LH.


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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:23 AM

Many of these expressions come from the concept of 'something that does not move or sound when struck' - like spectators in a Muso circle...


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From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 03:09 AM

You don't get dead bad, but you do get dead rotten. Or even dead bloody rotten. And dead dannan for the really dead icated, I dead juice.


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From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 09:19 AM

Well, I always make dead certain that the bullets will make a dead stop and not even go into a dead zone behind. I'd be a dead failure if I allowed that, because I'd be dead sorry if someone ended up dead dead.


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From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:34 PM

Re Megan L's posting of yesterday; the expression "pure dead brilliant" was actually part of the script (it became a bit of a "catchphrase" for one of the characters) in a BBC Scotland comedy series about twenty years ago, and was never part of Glasgow "patter" until then; I suspect it was synthesised out of the kind of usages of "dead" as an intensifier which we've got above and the contemporary usages of "pure" in much the same way, especially by the young. Don't know if "pure dead brilliant", or "pure dead [anything]" are used at all now, even in jest; but I can certainly confirm that, some five/ten years back, it was possible (for a teenager) to say simply that something was (simply) "pure", without necessarily referring to water or drugs. They all knew what they meant, even if no-one else did. Inevitably, it soon became possible to say something like: "See that? That's pure Pure, so it is." (I added the first phrase and the last just to give a bit of context; maybe I should have added a "like", too). And that's dead true, by the way.


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From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:27 PM

"Dead nuts on (or accurate)".............I used it most of my working life along with "Balls on accurate" and the combo of "Dead nuts balls on the mark" meaning the highest accuracy. Never had a clue why or even gave the individual words a thought.

Spaw


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From: Amos
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:38 PM

Oh, Spaw, that's patently untrue. Those words have predominated your thoughts throughout your entire career on Mudcat. Well, except for "accurate".


A


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From: Donuel
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:24 PM

The Scot phrase I am fond of is "Fucking Brilliant"


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From: topical tom
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:59 PM

You have to be dead on and dead right to achieve dead reckoning.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 03:07 PM

Being dead stupid is far less demanding.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 08:48 PM

Deadgeridoo...


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From: Dead Horse
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 07:19 AM

I do wish you folks would stop taking my name in vane!


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From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 01:11 PM

Dead Alice Books.

Good and not expensive at all!!

Art!!


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From: GUEST,chief chaos
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 01:56 PM

I've got to admit, I've always wondered about "dead sexy".


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From: Anne Lister
Date: 22 Feb 08 - 06:53 AM

I've got a sneaking fondness for the Londoner's predilection for "well" attached to anything ... such as "well hard" (as in tough, of a gang) or "well happy".   It gets most interesting when you get someone's excuse - "Couldn't come to school because I was well ill".

Anne


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From: theleveller
Date: 22 Feb 08 - 08:12 AM

Well well!


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From: Anne Lister
Date: 23 Feb 08 - 06:36 AM

"Well fit" = "dead sexy"

No wonder some people find it hard to understand English ...

Anne


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From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 23 Feb 08 - 07:26 AM

No one's mentioned "dead good" so far. Oddly enough I can't see anyonee ever saying "dead bad".

When I was a kid in Liverpool, I was just as likely to say "dead bad" as "dead good".

DC


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