BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)

Subject: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:40 PM

I've decided that all the unaddressed junk mail the blasted post girl puts in my letter box is going back into the red letter boxes for her to collect.

I've joined the preferential mailing list but I still get the 3 loads of crap every day that they are allowed to deliver. Well I've had enough. It's time to rebel...

THIS IS WAR

Anyone gonna join me in this protest?

SAL

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:45 PM

Go for it Sal.
G

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Megan L
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:46 PM

Now if it was undressed males that would be a different matter

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:51 PM

I wish my blasted post girl was a blinkin undressed post male, then i'd be waiting for him to hand my post to me in person!!!

lol

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:53 PM

Here in the state if you marked something as "Obscene Content. Return to sender". It went back and return postage was charged to the nuisance mailer. Anyone know if it still applies?

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Rog Peek
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 01:20 PM

Save it up until you get a prepaid envelope, and send it all there!

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,Ms lemon
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 02:08 PM

Rog, that is an option, but that address will only bin it. I want my local sorting office to have it back again, big time!

Like in 'Santa Clause The Movie' when the children returned the broken presents; I want the unaddressed mail to fall down the Post Master's chimney. lol!

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 02:26 PM

If it comes with a pre-paid envelope you could try attaching it to a brick and posting it back, thus incurring an excess postage charge to the recipient.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 04:26 PM

If you just put it in the pillar box it'll likely come back to you again. You need to write "Not Known" or "Moved Away". Perhaps "Do not Deliver" might do as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: autolycus
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 04:30 PM

i Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Megan L - PM
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:46 PM

Now if it was undressed males that would be a different matter


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Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: ms lemon - PM
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:51 PM

I wish my blasted post girl was a blinkin undressed post male, then i'd be waiting for him to hand my post to me in person!!!

lol

Sal



    Honestly, you men are all the same :-)


    Great ideas. Love the brick one.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,ms lemon
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 04:57 PM

Gosh that last one confused me! I love the brick one too.

er McGrath of Harlow ... how can it come back to me, it's unaddressed! I have stickers all over my mail box saying;

'no unaddressed mail thank you'

but it makes no difference at all. anyway, don't spoil my fun, i enjoy this sort of thing. I'll start with small pebbles and get heavier the more i get.

tee hee

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 05:55 PM

A few years ago I used to get unsolicited mail from credit card companies virtually every week. These always came with a prepaid envelope. I used to stuff these with as much junk mail as possible (to the point that they were bursting apart and stuck together with adhesive tape) and pop them back in the post box. In spite of the fact that I removed any trace of my name and address from anything in the stuffed return envelopes, eventually (unsolicited) solicitations from credit card companies stopped arriving. I wonder if they ever worked out that it was me?

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 06:08 PM

here in Oz our Post Office makes lots of money from dropping pamphlets in mail boxes! They have to make up revenue lost from folks who email rather than mail. Apparently if a householder puts a "No unaddressed Mail" sticker on their post box they apparently don't get unaddressed mail, HUH! A lot of junk mail is delivered by folks who aren't employed by Australia Post, but I can often stop that by picking it up from the floor & putting it into our recycling bin, rather than my neighbor's boxes tho I can't do anything about junk mail (oops interesting pamphlets) delivered with my mail.

Must have been a protest or two (thousand) from business customers whose boxes filled with junk, as holders of Post Office boxes can tick a box saying no unaddressed mail, so I don't get any in my Post Box. I also made sure I ticked the boxes before sending invoices to the treasurers of the 2 committees whose mail I collect. Unfortunately Australia Post doesn't seem to offer a similar service to householders, but then most householders don't see the need to pay for a private Post Box when they have a perfectly good mail box at their front door.

good luck with your protest.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,Bizibod
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 06:24 PM

Been posting it back into the pillar box for years- it just keeps on coming.
Apparently Royal Mail need to deliver this unsolicited stuff because it earns them loads.
Or so the postman tells me.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 07:42 PM

I was thinking of all the junk mail that does have an address on it, which is just as annoying.

But don't blame the postie for this - they loathe delivering junk mail. And they aren't allowed to pay any regard to notices on front doors about not wanting it.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 02:42 AM

Many years ago an entrepreneur who was wanting to build a new place of business on the US frontier found that the freight costs to haul the required load of bricks to the end of civilization were prohibitive, but that the US Postal service of that era charged per letter without regard to size or weight. He thus individually addressed each brick to his new place of business and mailed them to himself.

Shortly thereafter, a new Postal Regulation specifically prohibited the mailing of bricks.

So far as is known, that regulation remains in effect.

Just one more thing that those elsewhere (as in the UK) can do, that we in the US cannot.

'Tis sad - so very sad.

(And another postal rate increase is scheduled to take effect soon.)

John

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: The PA
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 03:20 AM

When we get unsolicited/junk mail, I keep it for a couple of days then fill the envelope with sweet wrappers, empty crisp packets etc,nothing harmful, then return to sender in their envelope without any postage but with a note saying 'you sent me your rubbish, so now you can have some of mine'.

I never hear from them twice.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 03:22 AM

Don't blame the postcomrade, they have to deliver what they are given, and putting it back in the box only increases their work load. They aren't even allowed to tell you how to reduce it. There is a limited opt out available. With other things, save up a bundle, stuff it into a prepaid envelope, and send it off- it will be delivered to the addressee to "recycle". Or just stuff it straight in the recycle bag unopened.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 03:54 AM

Buy a shredder and set up a hamster bedding supply shop.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 04:04 AM

Buy a shredder and compost it.

Paws

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 04:57 AM

I've just had a chat with the 'blasted post girl' and she informs me that she is paid £15 extra for delivering unaddressed mail to households. It appears she's paid 1.67p per household. So if they're not in her van when she gets back to the depot she gets paid an extra £15 per month. Is there someone from the Post Office with the gall to check that all households have received this crap? A Post Office Mistery Shopper?

Now I have to make a visit to the Sorting Office to tell the Post Master to stop delivering it all. Why the hell should I? It's a 20 mile round trip!

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 06:22 AM

I found that if I had junk mail from X & Co, and junk mail from Y & Co, sending X's shite to Y with no stamp, and Y's shite to X with no stamp, soon put the KB on junk mail to the Pugh residence.

I love PA's approach - "you sent me your rubbish, do have some of mine" approach - mind if I blag this, PA ?

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: The PA
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 06:36 AM

No Bryn help yourself.

WOW £15.00 per month extra, whats that .50p per day for taking abuse for doing your job?

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 08:36 AM

I asked about delivering such stuff - some is done by the local free newspaper here.

Well, they deliver you a bunch of newspapers, junk mail to be inserted, and plastic bags. You have to put this all together yourself and deliver it in a fixed area - about 100-200 households. About 17c each...

Didn't take then up on it...

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: jonm
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 08:47 AM

In the UK, there is a six(?) digit code which appears on most addressed junk mail, which is some sort of registration number and links to your address. This is what gets flagged by the mail preference service if you request no junk mail. If you have two numbers for some reason, of course you only get half the junk mail stopped! Even if you remove all name and address information from the cr@p you send them back, if that number appears, however small and insignificant, on the envelope or paperwork therein, the mailer will know the sender, which is why some UK people have stopped junk mailings in this way.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: The PA
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 09:09 AM

My lads first paperound was our local freepaper + ads. He had 150 papers and had to insert one of each ad into the paper then deliver them. Some weeks there were up 12 ads. It took up to 2 hours to collate the ads and put them in the paper, then another 2 to deliver the whole lot. The trolley weighed an absolute ton and the round had to be done in two or three goes. All for £7 per week.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 11:03 AM

By all means, chuck the unaddressed flyers in the nearest pillar box. To make your point more effectively, save up a week's worth of flyers before "returning" them. If enough people did this often enough, it would cost the PO money, which is all that postal managers really care about--the less of their budget they spend, the greater their bonusses.
Using the pre-paid return envelopes in unsolicited addressed advertisements to return rubbish to the sender is also a good thing to do. And every time you put a pre-paid envelope into the mail-stream you generate revenue for the PO, as the return envelopes are not really pre-paid--the PO collects only on the return envelopes which are actually returned.
In small-town Canada, where I am, if there is more than three pounds of non-first-class mail for a given address, then the carrier can send it out by truck, at a cost of two dollars to the PO. So I am currently saving up my addressed junk mail until I have amassed a three-pound wad. Then I will put it all into a mail box. When it comes back to me, I will re-post it. In theory, once I have my initial three-pound wad, I can cost the PO ten extra dollars a week, every week, forever.
I want to do this, not because it is a good idea, but because I am disgruntled. Our PO considers unaddressed flyers to be no more or less important than a love letter from your fiance or a communique from your late rich uncle's lawyer

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 11:11 AM

Ooops. Darn mouse.

Anyway, as I was saying before I interrupted myself, if a Canadian postie doesn't get all the flyers out in the allotted time (three days, usually) the PO treats it as "delay of mail" and imposes a five day suspension. A second offense gets you fired. Well, you know what, you can call a weiner tube-steak but that don't make it porterhouse. And you can call a flyer "mail" but it's still only a goddam flyer

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: GUEST,Ed.T
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 06:17 PM

Don't wait for pre-paid envelopes. Just put the place you really want it to go to in the upper left corner.

Don't put any postage on the envelope. It will then be sent back to what seems to be the sender, the address in the upper left envelope ncorner.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:46 AM

The Post Office is a good thing. It is being dismantled by the New Labour capitalists so that their rich friends can make profits for only delivering the easy and profitable stuff, and the poor and remote can go swing.

Do NOT make the job of the Post Office harder. It will only disappear the faster.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 01:44 PM

The Post Office IS a good thing, for sure, but it could be better and the flyers-in-the-pillar-box trick could be an effective feedback loop, informing postal managers of customer dis-satisfaction.
But is it true that in Scotland there is now a private alternative postal system, with its own street boxes and carriers and all? If so, you can help your public PO by monkey-wrenching the bastards at every opportunity.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 06:17 PM

bin doing it for years.

Put on the envelope - return to sender, not known at this address. They pay for the return charge. And send any replied paid cards back blank. They get the message eventually. (Oh - obscure your own address - the postie is not always that alert!)

Of course you have to be invisible on the electoral register, ex-directory, on the TPS register and MPS register and it sure helps if you move to a new address and do all of that from the off. Oh and don't publish your address on the web - use a webform for contacts and hide the e-mail address properly (ask me and I will give you a clue or two).

But you cannot list Mrs Occupier or Mr Householder as a resident.

I still get cold calls - they try all numbers not on the list. They get an earfull and the time it takes is their time.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:20 PM

I've worked for a mail order company who sent out prepaid cards to households. We received them sent back blank, but of course the sender couldn't be taken off the mailing list cos we didn't know who they were, so sending back a blank card does nout!

When I get cold callers who want to ask me questions, i ask them questions first like, where do you live, do you drive to work or do you walk, what's the weather like, do you have any children, how old are you.... or sometimes i pretend to be a ga ga old woman and i'm really deaf and answer with total misunderstanding. they go away quite quickly. it's really good fun!!!

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: Bonecruncher
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 05:23 PM

Sal playing the part of a ga-ga old woman? Some might think that to be normal. (grin)
Any person who phones or stops me in the street to "answer a survey" is assured that I will happily answer, providing they will pay me my standard charge of £50.
The questioner tends to either ring off or go away.
Colyn.

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 03:28 PM

Lol ! You know me well!

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Unaddressed Mail (uk)
From: jacqui.c
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 08:50 AM

I have , in the past, asked cold callers to wait while I get mu=y husband to talk to them. Leave the phone for five minutes......