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Longest song by a popular singer/ band

Leadbelly 29 Feb 08 - 02:16 PM
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Subject: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Leadbelly
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:16 PM

Johnny Rivers'self-composed song "John Lee Hooker", recorded at the Whisky a GoGo has a duration of 15 minutes and 40 seconds.
But I think he isn't the absolute champion. Any suggestions?

Manfred


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Villan
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:27 PM

"In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" is a seventeen-minute, ten-second rock song by Iron Butterfly, released on their 1968 album In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida,


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Arkie
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:31 PM

Bob Dylan's Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands is 11:20, Jon Anderson's version at 12:03 and Jamie Brockett's version of the USS Titanic is only 13:31 so they aren't contenders. Did Michael Cooney ever record Tam Lane? His live version would exceed 20 minutes I think.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Shaneo
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:34 PM

Me And The Rose, by Christy Moore 13-20


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:34 PM

Didn't the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald go on for about an hour and a half?


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:35 PM

Dylan's "Highlands" is very long, and also Loreena McKennitt's song of Tennyson's poem "The Lady of Shallotte". She released it in a shorter version for radio...in the full length version (Lord Tennyson's full poem) on the album. Either way it can send chills down your spine, but I like the full length version best of all.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Amos
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:43 PM

Frankie and Johnny.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Leadbelly
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:57 PM

Ha, I just dicovered that Arlo Guthrie managed to lengthen "Alice's Restaurant Massacree" up to 18.20! It's on Arlo's "Alice's Restaurant"-LP (reprise-records).


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:00 PM

It depends on who sings the song, you see. We have a guy at our local song circle who cycles through most songs in half the time it took the original artist to do them. ;-) Then you have the opposite extreme, the very slow rendition, but that's not so common.

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"The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, in my opinion, lasts just about exactly the right amount of time. It's an epic song of an epic story, and it tells the whole story. Very cool. I've noticed that people either love it or hate it, and this could have to do partly with whether the story itself really interests them or not, I think. If you're deeply interested in and caught up in the details of a story, you don't mind it taking a long time, because you want to savour every moment and image. If, on the other hand, it basically just doesn't grab you, then you can't be bothered sustaining the attention for very long (if at all).

Some other long songs of that type (they either grab you...or they don't) are Buffy Sainte-Marie's epic "My Country 'Tis of Thy People You're Dying" and Lightfoot's "Canadian Railroad Trilogy".

People who don't like those songs are not criticizing the song on its intrinsic merits, in my opinion...they are simply making it quite clear that the subject matter doesn't interest them very much for whatever reason...or perhaps the singer's style doesn't interest them.

If the subject matter fascinated them and if they loved the performer too, they'd love the song.

When you love someone or love what they do, you just can't get enough of it. When you don't care, well, your attention span will be quite short.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:02 PM

John Cage's As Slow As Possible was started on a German church organ five years ago and is due to finish in 635 years' time.
More likely to win this contest: Refried Boogie by Canned Heat lasts 41 minutes.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:02 PM

At one time, about three minutes was the max for radio play. Then along came Marty Robbins' recording of "El Paso." Ran for about seven minutes if I remember correctly.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:09 PM

LH, I was tongue-in-cheek on Edmund Fitzgerald. I like it and think Gordon is a great songwriter.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Leadbelly
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:10 PM

That's right, Don, and when this record entered the hit parades they have had some trouble to play this title comletely.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:15 PM

The 22 minute version of 'Tall Ships' by Show of Hands

Charlotte (is attempting to arrange this song for the piano)


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:21 PM

Okay, LEJ. It's a shame that Julio Iglesias never did a 45-minute song, eh? Think how great THAT would be! ;-)

Well, looks like maybe Canned Heat takes the prize, then, for "Refried Boogie".


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Snuffy
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:47 PM

A few from the Incredible String Band:

09:02 El Wool Suite (U)
09:17 Ducks on a Pond (Wee Tam)
09:24 Maya (The Big Huge)
10:18 Light in Time of Darkness/Good to See You (U)
10:53 Darling Belle (Liquid Acrobat as regards the Air)
12:55 A Very Cellular Song (The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter)
14:46 White Bird (Changing Horses)
15:22 Rainbow (U)
16:04 Creation (Changing Horses)

Later albums (Earthspan & No Ruinous Feud) have no timings anywhere, but may have songs of similar lengths


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:01 PM

The Live at The Fillmore disc of Cream's Wheels of Fire double LP set has:

Spoonful - 16:44

Toad - 15:53

Charlotte (the view from Ma and Pa's piano stool)


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: PoppaGator
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:11 PM

"Like A Rolling Stone" and, later, "Hey Jude," were said to have been ground-breakingly long for radio play when they were current hits, but I don't think either one was nearly as long as the various album cuts cited above.

Also, the 7-minute-plus "El Paso" was just about as long, and came out much much earlier. I had not been aware of that until just now. I'm certainly familiar with the song, just didn't realize how long it is ~ I suppose that shows that I've always enjoyed it enough not to get all fidgity waiting for it to conclude. (While I've certainly heard Marty Robbins sing it, I am most familiar with the song as part of the Grateful Dead catalog; among Dead songs, aseven minute running time is unremarkable: about an average duration, maybe even less.)

Another notable long song: Ray Charles' ground-breaking live-in-the-studio "What'd I Say?" was split in half to make a two sided single, "Part 1" and "Part 2." That may have been the first such two-part two-sided 45 single. The Isely Brothers "Shout" came later and was more clearly broken in half; the breaking-point is pretty well known since innumerable cover bands have long performed this popular number to include the transition passage that begins "Now wai-ai-ait a minute!"


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,LDB
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:17 PM

What would have been the longest folk song recorded would certainly be the Original Woody Guthrie song, "Ruben James." However, there are conflicting reports that the original, in which every member of the crew was named, was recorded. It is well documented that the shorter version of the song that became popular by the Almanac Singers caused some disagreement by Woody.

It should also be noted that the one mentioned above did not have the Joe Hellerman ending - that came later.

Examples of a shortened version of the original version are:

There's Harold Hammer Beasley, a first rate man at sea
From Hinton, West Virginia, he had his first degree.
There's Jim Franklin Benson, a good machinist's mate
Come up from North Carolina, to sail the Reuben James.

Dennis Howard Daniel, Glen Jones and Howard Vore
Hartwell Byrd and Raymond Cook, Ed Musselwhite and more
Remember Leonard Keever, Gene Evans and Donald Kapp
Who gave their all to fight about this famous fighting ship.

Ant there were 86 killed. There has also been speculation that Woody also wanted the rest of the crew mentioned,


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,Ken Brock
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 05:00 PM

Pete Seeger has mentioned that Woody definitely wanted to name all crew members, but Seeger talked him out of it.

One of Woody's longer songs is Tom Joad, which condenses Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath into about 7 minutes. It was covered by Country Joe MacDonald in the early 1970's.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: PoppaGator
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 05:13 PM

I never knew that about "Reuben James," which I first learned from Sing Out magazine, where a much shorter version of the lyrics appeared sometime in the mid-1960s.

Of course, I know that the chorus asked "What were their names, tell me what were their names, did you have a friend on the good Reuben James?" I just didn't know that the lesser-known verses answered the question ~ completely, if you knew Woody's entire lyric.

Interesting that his later lyric, "Deportees," was also similarly concerned about the names and identities of modest "common" folk who would otherwise be forgotten after a tragic demise. A recurring theme, and obviously a serious concern of Woody Guthrie's


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Mooh
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 07:44 PM

Did anyone mention Thick As A Brick by Jethro Tull? As much as I like Canned Heat, the tune is a bit repeatative.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Grab
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 08:31 PM

No-one's mentioned Dire Straits - the studio version of "Telegraph Road" clocked 14:15. And it'd be impossible to talk about longest popular songs without "American Pie".

Don't think live versions and jam sessions really count, do they? I mean, anyone can noodle round 12-bar or other easy progressions for ten-fifteen minutes without hardly trying. The challenge is saying what you have to say in a reasonable duration, not just giving in to diarrhoea of the fretboard.

Graham.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 02:19 AM

Child ballad number 117, "A gest of Robyn Hood", must surely be a contender at 456 verses.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 02:44 AM

Surely the released version of Refried Boogie (and wasn't it actually Refried Hockey Boogie?) on their second album was not anything like that long? One side of a vinyl LP did not run over 40 minutes.

How about Tubular Bells? There are the occasional words which might just make it a song.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 02:47 AM

Cream's "Spoonful" was about 17 minutes, too, and the Nice did a version of a Dylan song that took the entire side of an LP. Tangerine Dream I think did some stuff of comparable length, but no words.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Mooh
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 06:28 AM

The aforementioned Thick As A Brick was 22:45 on one side and 21:05 on the other side of the LP, mixed no differently on the cd.

I dig it.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 07:47 AM

Easy...Sad eyed Lady of the Lowlands bob dylan Took up the whole side on I believe Blond on Blond.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Snuffy
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 10:11 AM

What about the shortest? Anyone beat The Son of Noah's Brother on The Big Huge by the Incredible String Band? This weighs in at a massive SIXTEEN SECONDS.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: goatfell
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 10:49 AM

tom paxton's song a lament for a lost election.


dah, dah, dah, shit.

Tom


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Gene Burton
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 11:05 AM

A great songwriter is one who can say the most, in an entertaining and/or arresting way, in the shortest possible amount of time?? Discuss!

(not sure I'd absolutely always go along with the above myself, but it's one plausible working definition)

BTW, I've always had something of a soft spot for Mark Knopfler's extended guitar workouts, which is odd 'cos when it comes to other guitarists I can't stand 'em...


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: curmudgeon
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 11:18 AM

If memory serves correctly, Ewan MacColl's rendition of   Constance of Cleveland,
runs the entire side of the original LP - Tom


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: topical tom
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 12:19 PM

Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant"?


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 12:33 PM

Theoretically Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells is one song (the "lyrics" being spoken by Viv Stanshall on the original and by John Cleese on Tubular Bells 2003) it runs for a total of 48 mins and 56 seconds on two sides of the record

"Tubular Bells, Part 1" — 25:36
"Tubular Bells, Part 2" — 23:20

Charlotte (on piano and goodwill)


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 12:40 PM

"Easy...Sad eyed Lady of the Lowlands bob dylan
Took up the whole side on I believe Blond(e) on Blond(e)."

It does indeed take up the whole of side four of Blonde on Blonde, but:

Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" – 11 minutes 23 seconds

Charlotte (having retrieved Blonde on Blonde from the record collection)


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 02:04 PM

"Kilkelly Ireland" deserves an honorable mention.

Gordon Bok has recorded several long saga such as "Peter Kagan and the Wind."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,Nigel Spencer (cookieloss)
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 04:15 PM

Almost anything by Japanese space rockers Acid Mothers Temple. There's one track, called (I think) 'Baby Pink Lemonade' which is over 60 minutes long.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 04:50 PM

"'Baby Pink Lemonade' which is over 60 minutes long"

the actual length of this piece seems to vary depending on the gig, somwhat like The Grateful Dead and their songs

Charlotte (enquiries made)


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Zhenya
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 05:07 PM

Just got curious and checked my iTunes tracks in order by playing time. Looks like the longest single song track I have is Jody Stecher singing Barbary Ellen, at 12:45. It's on his album, Oh the Wind and Rain.

In terms of tune sets, there's one at 27:38 from Martin Hayes and Dennis Cahill, on the Live in Seattle album.

The longest combo song and tune set I have is The Green Fields of America on the album Kilkelly (Moloney, O'Connell and Keane) which clocks in at 21:24. (I'm afraid the song Kilkelly itself on this album comes in at a measly 6:47.)

And for honorable mention, Jean Ritchie's version of Little Musgrave is 12:03. (That's on her album Ballads from Her Appalachian Family Tradition.)


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Zhenya
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 05:09 PM

Whoops - Completely missed the stipulation that the song had to be by a popular band! Not surprising, as I have very little mainstream music in my collection.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 05:12 PM

Al Stewart's Love Chronicles sounded like a very long song back in 1969(or whenever).


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Genie
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 01:42 AM

Didn't the original, full version of Stairway To Heaven also go on for about 10 minutes?


Legend has it that some songs, eg., Marty Robbins's El Paso and Don McLean's American Pie became hits largely BECAUSE of their length -- that DJs would play long songs like that just so they could take a much needed potty break.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: number 6
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:02 AM

Not the longest song (15 min. or so), but worth mentioning here in this thread ... "The Hymns From The Grand Terrace" a Jimmy webb composition sung by Richard Harris.

biLL


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:54 AM

Ewan MacColls version of Tam Lin is pretty long but Bob Dylans ' Last Thoughts On Woody Guthrie ' is an epic, it's bloody good as well.

eric


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 03:28 AM

Refried boogie? Not sure I could stand listening to the same song for 40 minutes.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 05:10 AM

Late Breaking news:

The next chord change in the performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible which began in 2001 will occur on 5 July 2008. The first movement will end as soon as 2073.


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: oldhippie
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 11:51 AM

Lets not forget Dylan "Desolation Row" and Harry Chapin "Taxi" / "Sequel"


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 01:20 PM

Chris Woods "England In Ribbons" off the "Trespassers" CD is 13.00 minutes.

And I have played it on my radio show. (Walked off to the cafe next door ordered and drank a coffee - and walked back into the studio as it finished).


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: SouthernCelt
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 01:29 PM

Although not in real contention for longest, the two-part version of "Susie Q" done by CCR ran pretty long.

SC


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Subject: RE: Longest song by a popular singer/ band
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 02:37 PM

"Al Stewart's Love Chronicles sounded like a very long song back in 1969(or whenever)."


Love Chronicles - Al Stewart 1969

title track length - 18-minutes

Charlotte (the Sunday view from Ma and Pa's piano stool)


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