YouTube: Heisenstader

Subject: heisenberg and hofstadter
From: john f weldon
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 01:51 PM

I guess this belongs above the line, since it's a music video...

Heisenstadter

Subject: RE: YouTube: Heisenstader
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 02:23 PM

Well, we'll see where the discussion goes, whether it turns to music or what. My hunch is that it will end up below the line.

Interesting video, though. In general, when you post a YouTube link I think it's better to say something about it, rather than just giving the link.

In some ways, I think it would be better to post YouTube links in existing YouTube threads.

Anybody want to attempt to transcribe the song? I have trouble following all the lyrics.


-Joe-

Subject: RE: YouTube: Heisenstader
From: john f weldon
Date: 05 Mar 08 - 02:42 PM

Sorry; sloth and exhaustion of an endless winter.
A song about Monism, Dualism; inspired by having read "I am a Strange Loop" by Douglas Hofstadter.

This is a link to a film I made years ago on the same general subject (which also contains a song).

to be

Here's the words to Heisenstadter.


In days of yore, young Heisenberg
That Master of Uncertainty
Stated Particles deserved
Existence only when observed
They needed Mind to Be!

Now Dr. Douglas Hofstadter
To add to to everyone's confusion
States that particles are real
But everything we think and feel...
Our minds are an illusion.

Mind of Matter; one or both?
If that's what you think, you mustn't
Matter, Mind and nature's laws
Yes, everything exists because
Of something else that doesn't!

If somehow Douglas Hofstadter
And Heisenberg should meet, I fear
That theirs would be a dreadful fate
They'd possibly disintegrate...
Or worse just disappear.

Now Bertrand Russell's Grandmama,
Had grandmaternal instincts kind...
And to the former spoke the latter...
What is Mind? Doesn't matter!
And what is matter? Never Mind!

Mind of Matter; one or both?
If that's what you think, you mustn't
Matter, Mind and nature's laws
Yes, everything exists because
Of something else that doesn't!

Reading tomes by such as these
With spinning thoughts within my head
A head that cannot really be...
A me that isn't really me
Will read a comic book instead!