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Qualified To Be a Folkie?

GUEST,Alan Surtees 10 Mar 08 - 07:59 AM
alanabit 10 Mar 08 - 08:10 AM
kendall 10 Mar 08 - 09:08 AM
Georgiansilver 10 Mar 08 - 09:36 AM
redsnapper 10 Mar 08 - 10:11 AM
Peace 10 Mar 08 - 10:13 AM
Peace 10 Mar 08 - 10:15 AM
wordfella 10 Mar 08 - 10:28 AM
Peace 10 Mar 08 - 10:31 AM
GUEST,Alan 10 Mar 08 - 10:39 AM
Big Mick 10 Mar 08 - 10:46 AM
vectis 10 Mar 08 - 11:01 AM
The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive) 10 Mar 08 - 11:50 AM
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Waddon Pete 10 Mar 08 - 12:28 PM
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Subject: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: GUEST,Alan Surtees
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 07:59 AM

I just thought it would be interesting to explore exactly what our expectations are of anyone who may be described as a folkie. It would be good to understand the UK perception and those of our colleagues from the USA and Canada, in fact, anywhere.

And just to make it fun (with just a pinch of mischief) I will offer a few possible questions to discover those who really qualify. At the end of this thread I think we should find a panel to consider entries and they should put forward their suggestions for: "Folkie of the Year 2008". It would also be good to have a way of formally recognising qualified folkies, perhaps a badge a little like the MacDonalds badge with a fully qualified folkie having five pint pots (other suggestions welcome). So, what questions do we need to ask to find those answers which define a folkie?

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to?
What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to?
What does a real folkie drink?
What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any?
What sort of house would a folkie live in?
Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts?
Folkie Dress Code?
Political leaning?
Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one)
Formal Educational Qualifications?
What hobbies do real folkies have?
What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie?
Should folkies be Morris Dancers?
Married or single?
Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard?

Have fun, try not to be too serious and please add more qualifications of your own. We will then discover what it means to be a real folkie.

All the Best

Alan


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: alanabit
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 08:10 AM

Field recordings of bonny sailors and trusty farmhands.
The Spinners or Fivepenny Piece.
Raw scrumpy or real ale only. (Mead is allowed at Christmas).
An ecologically soundly produce bicycle.
A farmhand's tied cottage.
Computers?
Rustic, with a small, unnecessary red scarf.
Loyal to whichever charlatan claims to embody trusty, old fashioned values.
Gay.
The university of life. Formal qualifications are not allowed.
Walking with fair wenches, sailing the salty sea etc...
Ideally a horny handed toiler upon the land.
Of course.
Married.
Certainly not!


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:08 AM

I think. Therefore, I'm a folkie.


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 09:36 AM

Any music you like to listen to as it all originates from 'Folk' music anyway.
Drinks water to stay alive, otherwise a good glass of any make of 'real ale' will do.
A real folkie would ride a horse but I guess a Nissan will do.
He/she lives wherever they lay their hat.
Experts only if they lay their hat on a computer.
Dresses in beatnik style clothing....as in the 60's
Leans on Political posters.
Sexual orientation...definitely.
Educated by life and nature...qualified to comment on anything.
Hobbies...woodturning...antiques and collectables...crafts.
Ideal employment...loads of paid gigs.
Morris dancers if they want to be.
They should certainly be married or single.
You can get pissed without a tankard!!!!!
ALSO:-
Needs to be able to sing with teeth clenched.
Needs to be able to harmonise...especially with songs about 'good ale'
Will preferably have a head, body, legs, arms and all the bits and pieces that go with them but anyone without any of these parts will be acceptable.
Preferably able to handle a bodhran or banjo.... ability to throw it in a river or crush it with bare hands essential.
Be able to sleep on a clothes line or telegraph pole at festivals without falling off whilst under the affluence of incahol.
Must have a party trick such as being able to dislocate a shoulder or hip (best for those unable to sing or play)


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: redsnapper
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:11 AM

Based on a long observation of Mudcatters...

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to? What is folk? (...no, please do not answer this)
What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to? Ani DiFranco
What does a real folkie drink? Strong ale or strong scrumpy (depending on orientation but not a G&T or sweet sherry at any rate)
What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any? His or her partner's (if said partner is not a real folkie as well...)
What sort of house would a folkie live in? An exceedingly untidy one
Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts? Yes... in order to debate what folk is, what the folk process is, whether the folk process is dead, etc. (ad infinitum)
Folkie Dress Code? A suitable collection of out-of-date and ill-fitting, yet practical garments
Political leaning? Strongly to the left or strongly to the right (or both simultaneously... lurk in the centre is not permittted)
Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one) Yes please
Formal Educational Qualifications? Nowadays... a least a Batchelor' degree (... higher with specialisation is preferable to participate in the "What is Folk?", etc. debates)
What hobbies do real folkies have? Drinking, sex, debating "What is Folk?", Pagan interests
What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie? Librarian, teacher, archaeologist, herb grower, university professor
Should folkies be Morris Dancers? If it keeps them off debating "What is...?" etc., why not
Married or single? Separated or divorced
Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard? A tankard would be compulsory for real folkies of a English singing bent, together with the regulation battered hat and small book with even smaller writing (otherwise optional)

RS


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:13 AM

"RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?"

Nope!


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:15 AM

But someday when the definition changes, maybe . . . .


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: wordfella
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:28 AM

Refusing to conform to stereotypes?


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:31 AM

"stereotypes"

Sanyo, Kenwood, . . .


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:39 AM

Do you have to agree to become a non-comformist to become a folkie?


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:46 AM

****GUFFAW*****


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: vectis
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:01 AM

None of the above


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:50 AM

"Refusing to conform to stereotypes? "

that's a stereotype right there!

Charlotte (it's Monday morning here)


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 12:07 PM

"Should folkies be Morris Dancers? If it keeps them off debating"

I suppose the Morris Ring meeting would be a form of mass debating!


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 12:28 PM

I agree with Kendall and Peace on this one!


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 12:46 PM

Must we really do this again? Oh, if you insist--

(1) Whatever he/she likes to listen to and can be inspired by.
(2) Whatever he/she doesn't enjoy listening to.
(3) Silly question.
(4) Silly question.
(5) Silly question.
(6) Sure. How else are you going to get lyrics, tunes, etc. But "expert?" No such thing. An "expert" is only an expert in what he/she knows. Ponder that. Oh, and how else are you going to get the latest raft of filth which is supposed to be funny or how else are you going to get dissed for ignoring the possibility that during certain phases of the moon, A# is not Bb? If you weren't computer literate, and couldn't pass time posting on the 417th thread playing at a definition of folk music, you might accidentally turn on Oprah and end up voting for Barack "I'm on Fire" Obama.
(7) Silly question.
(8) Silly question. You don't have to have voted for William Jennings Bryan to like folk music, though it might help.
(9) Hetero sapiens.
(10) Music as a hobby might help. Eventually they might invest enough time in it to learn a major scale. Beating dogs is fun too; Whoopie Goldberg says that's ok.
(11) You should be able to count the number of notes in an octave and frets on your guitar. Not to worry; we seem to have waived that requirement in a couple of cases I could mention. But won't. Gentleman. Ha! Pig's ear.
(12) Whatever gets you six figures, per diem and a company car. Me, I'm still working on that part.
(13) Absolutely! And every open mic should include a shtick that starts, "This is my interpretation of a potted geranium." Alternative answer: I'm having trouble learning to dance like a cat.
(14) If the majority votes "single," do I need to get a divorce? Silly question.
(15) I hope so. My most frequent open mic is in a dry hole. Number two is staffed by such blunted waitresses that your chances of getting a tankard, let alone enough tankards to ever get tanked, are slim to none. The only other place I've ever been moved to perform was one where the brew flowed freely, but after the last shooting incident I sort of dropped that one off my gig list.

There. That's the best I can do.

CC


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: The Mole Catcher's Apprentice (inactive)
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 12:47 PM

is this an old debate dressed up in nice new clothing?

Charlotte (just asking)


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:11 PM

As I see it, "Folk Music" is an ancient term that is no longer relevent. Originally, the term was applied to songs that were learned and sung in the oral tradition by the people, as opposed to, say, opera, or other songs that were impossible for most people to sing (The Star Spangled Banner), That was before written songs were common. Anyone with a voice could sing "The Fox", one of the oldest songs in the English language.

So, I guess any song that is sung by the common people could be considered a folk song. Just don't ask me to accept Achey Breakey Heart, or I love a rainy night as a folk song!


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:14 PM

"Achey Breakey Heart"

I'm pretty sure that one's Traditional, Kendall.


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: GUEST,Val
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:20 PM

"...perhaps a badge a little like the MacDonalds badge ..."

Umm... would that be the golden arches or the clown? Perhaps something found in a Happy Meal?

(Just, er, Yank-ing your chain there...)


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Gene Burton
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:47 PM

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to? Anything with a strong melody and intelligent lyrics qualifies.
What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to? The Whistling Gypsy Rover. Where Have All the Flowers Gone. And anything by Gene Burton (just in case I'm accused of undue bias or treating the question overly seriously.)
What does a real folkie drink? Real ale or real cider/perry. No lager, wine, spirits or alcopops.
What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any? Ideally none.
What sort of house would a folkie live in? A leaky bedsit, ditch or cave.
Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts? What's the internet??
Folkie Dress Code? No need to be THAT prescriptive...
Political leaning? Healthy scepticism
Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one)Try anything twice...
Formal Educational Qualifications? None required.
What hobbies do real folkies have? Drinking, hiking, arguments, hand-to-hand combat...but principally drinking.
What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie? REAL folkies are unemployable (see above)
Should folkies be Morris Dancers? Take the fifth...
Married or single? Impossible to live with, thus single
Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard? What's a tankard??


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:49 PM

Answers interpolated in CAPS for clarity, not shouting.


What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to? FOLK 1954 DEFINITION OR NEOFOLK OR ANYTHING REALLY SO LONG AS HE OR SHE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE
What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to? NOTHING IS FORBIDDEN - SO LONG AS YOU KNOW WHAT IS FOLK (1954 DEFINTION) AND WHAT ISN'T
What does a real folkie drink? ALCOHOL, PREFERABLY BEER, WHICH MEANS WHAT IS VULGARLY CALLED "REAL ALE". CIDER ALSO ALLOWED, PREFERABLY NOT WHITE LIGHTNING. WHISKY, NOT AMERICAN "WHISKY" (MADE WITH RYE) AND HOME-FLAVOURED GINS AND VODKAS GOOD, BRANDY ALLOWABLE, POTEEN AND EAU-DE-VIE EXTRA POINTS AND SOUBLE EXTRA POINTS IF STILLED ILLEGALLY AT HOME. SOUTHERN COMFORT OUT OF THE BOTTLE, OR A GOOD RYE WHISKY (NOT JACK DANIELS, MAYBE WILD TURKEY) ALLOWED IF PLAYER OF AMERICANA. VODKA ALLOWED, FLAVOURED (EG LEMON OR BISONGRASS) BETTER, RUSSIAN-MADE PREFERABLE. INSTANT DISQUALIFICATION IF FOUND WITH THUNDERBIRD, 22, ANY LAGER OTHER THAN ONE OVER 7% (HONOURABLE EXEMPTION FOR ANYONE MAD ENOUGH TO DRINK CRAZY ED'S CHILLI BEER, PISSING AFTER 10 PINTS IS AGONY) , ANY ALCOPOP OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL 2-DOGS OR PASSIONFRUIT REEF, OR THAT GHASTLY PEACH STUFF CALLED ARCHERS.
What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any? MORRIS MINOR TRAVELLER, OLD VOLVO ESTATE (PREFERABLY 2-SERIES), ANY TRUE VINTAGE OR GENUINE PVT (POST-VINTAGE THOROUGHBRED RECOGNISED BY VSCC). LAND ROVER RATHER THAN DISCO OR RANGE ROVER, BUT MUDDY DENTED OFF-ROAD 4-WHEEL DRIVES OF ANY KIND OK - NOT CHELSEA TRACTORS). CARAVANS PREFERABLY OLD, EXTRA POINTS IF SHAPED TO RESEMBLE A WARDO. MORE EXTRA POINTS IF REAL TRAVELLERS AUTOMATICALLY GREET OWNER "HEY BRUV".
What sort of house would a folkie live in? I'LL ACCEPT UNTIDY. EXTRA POINTS IF MOST CLUTTER IS MUSICAL INTRUMENTS, MUSIC, OR DEVICES FOR PLAYING SAME. DISQUALIFIED FOR GRAND PIANO.
Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts? NO.
Folkie Dress Code? A WHAT?
Political leaning? MUST BE ROOTED IN A CONCEPT OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one) THE MORE THE MERRIER, BUT CAN WE HAVE OCCIDENT AS WELL AS ORIENT PLEASE?
Formal Educational Qualifications? IRRELEVANT
What hobbies do real folkies have? FOLKING
What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie? OPTIMUM IS PERMITTED EARLY RETIREMENT WITH ENHANCED PENSION FOR ILLNESS OR STRESS-RELATED PROBLEMS. CLAIMANT SEEKING WORK AS A SPECIALIST FOLKLORIST IS ACCEPTABLE TOO. WORKING FOLK MUSICIAN IS ALLOWABLE BUT RARE.
Should folkies be Morris Dancers? RING, FEDERATION, OR UNAFFILIATED? PERMITTED BUT NOT OBLIGATORY IMHO.
Married or single? I THINK SEPARATED, DIVORCED OR WIDOWED IS USUAL.
Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard? NO. EXTRA POINTS FOR HIPFLASK AS WELL.

If male, bald (or remains of hippie long hair, preferably grey), bearded, and portly is good too.

Should folkies smoke? Probably only grass, not straights, but pipe allowed.

Speech habits? RP or regional, not estuary.


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Subject: RE: QUALIFIED TO BE A FOLKIE?
From: Gene Burton
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 02:53 PM

Oh, didn't spot the smoking question. A folkie should smoke roll-ups, preferably unfiltered. Pipes allowed; strictly no straights or cigars.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 05:39 PM

I notice nothing has yet been said about sheep.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Gene Burton
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 05:51 PM

Well, let's see- folkies=drinking= "bar!"

Lots of woolly liberal types in folk circles, too.

I'll get me coat...


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: GUEST,Frazz
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 06:35 PM

What,s a Folk virgin ?   Someone who,s never had a good Fu Fu Folk song sung to them. Sorry, nothing to do with thread.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 06:42 PM

Your best guitar should have cost more than 1% of the current value of your house...


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Tootler
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 06:58 PM

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to? Anything sung by a 93 year old raised in THE tradition
What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to? Anything sung(???) by a snicker snogwriter
What does a real folkie drink? Real Ale or Scrumpy -though I see a lot of Magners being drunk these days - is this the drink for the bright young folkies?
What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any? A campervan
What sort of house would a folkie live in? A campervan
Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts? Yes so they can look up the words on the DT and get the tune from JC's abc tunefinder.
Folkie Dress Code? Anything that's not been washed for at least a month
Political leaning? about 30�
Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one) Weekend or full week version?
Formal Educational Qualifications? Duh!
What hobbies do real folkies have? Drinking real ale, spending the summer visiting folk festivals, playing the fiddle - badly
What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie? Anything as long as it gives you the summer off to visit folk festivals.
Should folkies be Morris Dancers? Only if you can do it badly.
Married or single? Yes if it's to another folkie
Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard? Yes. but only when the 29th of February is a full moon.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:42 PM

I've just realised by the above yardstick I am seriously under-guitared. I'd better go and buy another....


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 01:15 PM

Somebody who will drink anything as long as its cheap
Somebody who can fart in the middle of a song, without anybody else hearing
Somebody with beer and food staines down their T Shirts
Somebody who thinks everybody else is crap except themselves
Somebody who is allergic to soap and shampoo
Somebody who thinks BO is the best deoderant on this earth

This is getting a bit to serious, I think I will go and watch Dads Army


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 01:16 PM

The word "folkie" MUST be proceeded by the word "OLD", as in "OLD FOLKIE!" Bob


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 01:20 PM

I confess that the reasoning to follow may seem a bit oblique to some, but I just couldn't let this one pass.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the query reminds me of the question once directed to Commodore Vanderbilt regarding the cost of his yacht. His response, "If you have to ask, you shouldn't own one."


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 01:20 PM

I wonder if it's a corruption of the expression 'old foggie'?


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 05:34 PM

How does a person register as totally UNQUALIFIED to be a folkie ?
Not hating RAP would be a good start I suppose.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 06:26 PM

ummmm...not being a multi instrumentalist, these days, disqualifies me as being a folkie

Charlotte (piano only)


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 06:29 PM

Sexual orientation?




























No thanks, I just had one.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 06:35 PM

BTW, Mr. Bridge, it is my understanding that both Jack Daniels and Wild Turkey are made mostly from maize, not rye. Perhaps the bluegrassers could weigh in on this one. But anyone singing lumberjack songs would be well-advised to tank up on Canadian Club, which is made from rye with the addition of a small amount of propylene glycol to keep it from freezing when shipped by rail.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 06:38 PM

I 'think' I'm qualified...anyway I was once described as a Modal Folker....I think that's what they said.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: bubblyrat
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 08:22 PM

Am I ??
   I am much divorced
    I drink cider (a lot )
      My house,which is in a graveyard, is untidy and cluttered with instrument cases
   I do not own a car, and never have done
my (folkie) girlfriend has a venerable 11 -year old Cavalier, and her small caravan is considerably older
       I usually attend festivals,gatherings,etc clad in rather startling multi-coloured striped jersey bought in Albert Kuyp market in Amsterdam plus anything else,including bizarre headgear,that I can find in charity shops
             I am very Bolshie
      Yes, I have had sex in the Orient
          I still don't know what "folk" music is, but I like it
    I am not a teacher,etc, but I have been a lock-keeper
             -----on the down side, I don't smoke (gave it up), and don't have a belt-tankard, but otherwise ?? Do I qualify ??

             ps have been going to Sidmouth since 1965, and as I write this rubbish,am listening to early Planxty.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Surreysinger
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 08:57 PM

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to?
Give up - don't know .....

What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to?
errrmmm.... Cat Stevens? (never did like his stuff while at college, where I was forced to listen to it by my flatmate)

What does a real folkie drink?
Liquid refreshment of some sort???

What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any?
one with four wheels (anything other than a Reliant Robin, anyway)

What sort of house would a folkie live in?
In my case an untidy one.

Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts?
Doesn't everyone these days??

Folkie Dress Code?
Presumably determined by the Folk Police?? Haven't seen the rules and regs written down anywhere yet.

Political leaning?
Is presumably towards whatever one's inclination may be???

Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one)
Is that a new and more exciting form of that sport with maps... oh no, sorry, thinking of Orienteering there....

Formal Educational Qualifications?
Yes thanks....

What hobbies do real folkies have?
Perusing the internet and answering questionnaires like this??

What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie?
In my case ex Tax Inspector, and currently casual box office assistant at the local theatre ...

Should folkies be Morris Dancers?
Hell no!!

Married or single?
Whichever...

Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard?
I would have said yes, but sadly I won one some time ago, so became (without wishing to have done so) a pewter tankard carrier (not that I've ever used the thing to drink out of, or intend to)


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 12:22 PM

Perhaps we should ask Breton Cap to give a course? (only kidding)

Or Mark Lawson of Dead Horse Morris who has not got off the abacus and onto the computer yet...


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 06:14 PM


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 06:31 PM

Subtle build up, Art. What's the punchline?


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Surreysinger
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 07:14 PM

He's obviously speechless .....


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:26 PM

Charlotte's 10 March post: I was idly wondering that myself....


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: GUEST,Stranger
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 09:50 PM

I am a folksinger and:

am Republican these days
amsomewhat conservative
make about $100K/yr in my real job
don't smoke
don't do drugs
don't drink
am straight, not too tolerant of gays
have zero tolerance for bullshit
not out to change the world

Other than that, I play a lot of gigs, know a couple hundred songs cold, am proud of my playing and singing and feel completely qualified to be a folksinger.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Bert
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 11:25 PM

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to? Stuff they heard before 1960.
What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to? Opera, with the possible exception of Gilbert and Sullivan.
What does a real folkie drink? Real ale, Guinness or cider or gin on the rocks. Not to everyones taste but I've even seen folkies with bottled water.
What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any? A minivan.
What sort of house would a folkie live in? A house with a front porch, unless you live in Phoenixville Pa.
Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts? Yes.
Folkie Dress Code? Jeans, Mudcat Tee shirt, sneakers.
Political leaning? Either very left or so far right that you've met the left 'round the other side.
Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one)Bi.
Formal Educational Qualifications?None required.
What hobbies do real folkies have?Posting on Mudcat, anything artsy fartsy.
What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie? Busker.
Should folkies be Morris Dancers?Of course.
Married or single?Yes.
Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard? Yes, one serves Guin.ess in a glass.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 10:00 AM

Unfortunately for this debate, refusing to qualify for anything they don't have to is a strong folkie trait.

In the interest of the common good, folkies are willing to register to vote and to study the driver's manual. After that, it's a free-for-all.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 10:19 AM

What sort of Folk Music should a real folkie listen to?

A--Real folk music, of course.

What sort of, so called, Folk Music should a real folkie not listen to?

A--What is stuff written by singer-songwriters?

What does a real folkie drink?

A--Anything.

What sort of car would a folkie drive, if any?

A--Stolen.

What sort of house would a folkie live in?

A--The dog house. Then he can sing the blues.

Do real folkies need to be computer and internet experts?

A--What's a computer?

Folkie Dress Code?

A--It's up to the individual. I do not look good in a dress. (Someday I will explain that.)

Political leaning?

A--A bit to the left, but when that is view by a viewer, the viewer's view will depend on which way the folkie is leaning.

Sexual Orientation? (Bluegrass fans can ignore this one)

A--Sheep.

Formal Educational Qualifications?

A--I don't understand the question. It's about school, right?

What hobbies do real folkies have?

A--Sheep.

What is the ideal form of employment for a folkie?

A--Independently wealthy. No need for that.

Should folkies be Morris Dancers?

A--Definitely not. If all folkies were named Morris Dancers, we'd never know who was booked at gigs.

Married or single?

A--For sure.

Could a folkie ever be considered a real folkie without a tankard?

A--That's a military weapon. This seems to be a very odd question.


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Subject: RE: Qualified To Be a Folkie?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 01:14 PM

Dang, stranger, do you play "Okie from Fnokie" to go with that construct?


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