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SAVE YOUR MONEY WHILE YOU'RE YOUNG


Desert Dancer 09 Aug 24 - 12:46 PM
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MickyMan 25 May 16 - 02:12 PM
Jim Dixon 20 Jan 14 - 09:17 PM
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Q (Frank Staplin) 20 Jan 14 - 01:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 09 Aug 24 - 12:46 PM

Here's is a field recording made by Kenneth Peacock, who collected songs in Newfoundland in the 1950s: Save Your Money When You’re Young Performed by Amos Payne; PEA 108 No. 811. This is one of the songs that Peacock did not include in "Songs of the Newfoundland Outports". It was brought to light by Anna Kearney Guigné and published in "The Forgotten Songs of the Newfoundland Outports: As Taken from Kenneth Peacock’s Newfoundland Field Collection, 1951–1961" (see a review of that book, here).


Guigné wrote a doctoral dissertation on Peacock's work in 2006 that's now available online (PDF).


The YouTube notes:

This Native American [I believe this should be "native American" -- composed in North America, rather than by first peoples - BN] song is generally associated with the lumber woods song tradition. The earliest printing of the song appears to be a version from North Dakota in Rickaby’s Ballads and Songs of the Shanty-Boy (1926: 39–40). As Rickaby poignantly points out, the words of this song undoubtedly moved the “dim spirit-beings of thousands of shanty-boys” who wiled away their wages with little to show for their efforts in later years. From this he concludes, “If a ballad can be defined as ‘a song which tells a story’ then I might feel prompted to call this song a ballad” (Ibid., 199). Beck, who includes the song by the same title in Songs of the Michigan Lumberjacks (1942: 100), notes that lumberjacks usually led a “sober existence” because “a man with a bottle on his hip does not last long” and, when they went to town, they were the “spendingest, drinkingest, fightingest men known.” Fowke, who recorded “Save Your Money” in 1957 from the singing of Jim Doherty (1965: 134-35) also remarks “This is a fine old lumbering song rarely heard today (Ibid., 191-92).

~ Becky in Oregon


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: leeneia
Date: 25 May 16 - 04:20 PM

I think it's a good idea. Go ahead.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: MickyMan
Date: 25 May 16 - 02:12 PM

Here I am, back after several years, thinking about this song once again. I'm thinking that I'm going to learn it for some upcoming group sings, but I intend to end every stanza with the "Save your Money while you're young me boys, you'll need it when you're old." That way everybody can join in and be part of it
Does anybody have any pro or con thoughts as to whether the folk process gives me the right to finagle with the song in this way. (I'm probably going to do it anyway, but I'm just interested to know what other Mudcatters think about me doing it that way.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SAVE YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 09:17 PM

This version is from Ballads and Songs of the Shanty-Boy by Franz Rickaby (Cambridge : Harvard University Press, 1926), page 39: (It's a bit different from the one in the DT.)


SAVE YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG
Sung by Mr. Arthur Milloy, Omemee, North Dakota

1. Come all you jolly good shanty-boys; come listen to me awhile.
A story I'll relate to you, a story to beguile.
A story I will tell to you that many's a man has told.
It's save your money when you're young; you'll need it when you're old.

2. Oh, if you are a single man, I'll tell you what to do:
Just court some pretty fair maid that always will prove true.
Just court some pretty fair maid that is not over-bold,
That will stick to you when you are young, find comforts when you're old.

3. And if you are a married man, I'll tell you what to do:
Support your wife and family; you're sworn that to do.
Keep away from all those grog shops where liquor's kept and sold,
For all they want is your money, boys; you'll need it when you're old.

4. Oh, once I was a shanty-boy, and wasn't I the lad?
I spent my money foolish; I swear it was too bad.
And now I'm old and feeble, and wet out in the cold.
Oh, save your money when you're young; you'll need it when you're old.

5. . . . .
. . . .
But yet you'll see the day, my boys, when wet out in the cold.
Oh, save your money when you're young; you'll need it when you're old.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:03 PM

Sorry about that. This link adds a bit to Q's post, but not much.

http://www.goldenhindmusic.com/lyrics/SAVEYOUR.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:01 PM

Save your money while you're young


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 01:54 PM

The DT text is copied from the version in Edith Fowke, from the singing of Jim Doherty, Ontario.
With musical score, pp. 206-207; Edith Fowke, 1970, "Lumbering Songs from the Northern Woods," American Folklore Society, Univ. Texas Press.

Another version, without the first verse of the DT song (Doherty), is printed on p. 95, in E. C. Beck, "Lore of the Lumber Camps," Univ. Michigan Press.

More than one tune has been used for the song; the Doherty version is similar to "Young Conway."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Mar 08 - 03:11 PM

MickyMan-

It's a fine lumberjack song.

I note that your keyboard seems to be wearing out, given the typos in your verse above.

Mudcat now has a spellcheck function (red underlining) which reminds you when something doesn't look right. It's not perfect but I've found it helpful.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 16 Mar 08 - 10:05 AM

Just search, and in the DT you'll find: Save Your Money When You're Young

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: Lyr Req: Save Your Money While You're Young
From: MickyMan
Date: 16 Mar 08 - 09:25 AM

Some of the words I sort of remember ...
Oh when I was a hanty boy, oh wasn't I a sight,
And the way I spent me money lads, oh wasn't it a fright,
Now many's the ime I'm thinkin' as I'm shiverin' out in the cold
Save your money while you're young me boys, you'll need it when you're old

Does it ring any bells out there?


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