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U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it?
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Subject: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Nick E Date: 13 Apr 08 - 06:15 PM I am just wonering what bands or individuals people know of from the States that are known for playing and or writing Maritime music. The most prominent I can think of would be Schooner Fare, and I have heard of Gordon Bok from Main and Mustard's Retreat who seem to play Great Lakes oriented music. And that is it. I figure there must be more but I'm not getting very far finding them. So catters who do you know of. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Folkiedave Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:19 PM Johnson Girls |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Leadfingers Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:29 PM Pint and Dale - Seattle based but sing all over - Do a HELL of a lot of Sea Based stuff , and do it very well too . |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: iancarterb Date: 13 Apr 08 - 07:51 PM Roll and Go |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Severn Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:17 PM Accessible to the Washington DC area, there are now 4 shanty sings, each in different weeks. One in Wheaton Maryland, one in Baltimore Maryland, one in Annapolis Maryland and one in Falls Church Virginia. The Ships Company Shantymen (connected with the USS Constellation in Baltimore Harbor), Janie Meneeley, Caryl P. Weiss, Pyrates Royale (who do concerts and Rennaisance Faires), Calico Jack (a duet specializing in original music, often about the Chesapeake Bay area), and Letter Of Marque are among the local performers who do the music. There's also a Pirate themed restaurant in Silver Spring Maryland that has appropriately costumed bands play there. Some of the performers are in more than one band. A thriving folklore Society and several concert series and house concert sites draw out of town visits from the likes of Pint & Dale, Lou Killen, Geoff Kauffman, Bob Zentz, Danny Spooner, Tom Lewis, The Johnson Girls and Andrew McKay & Carole Etherton. A good area to be in for maritime music. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,Nerd Date: 13 Apr 08 - 08:19 PM In my own neighborhood of Maryland, we have: Calico Jack Ship's Company Chanteymen Pyrates Royale Calico Jack Letter of Marque and several other groups. The most significant songwriter among those groups would be Jane Meneely, who is in Calico Jack and SCC. She wrote the song "Twiddles," which is performed by maritime groups on both sides of the Atlantic, and continues to write both serious and humorous maritime material. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Wincing Devil Date: 13 Apr 08 - 09:06 PM I agree that Janie is the bestest of the bunch (I'm not prejudiced, even though I'm her Web Wrangler (JanieMeneely.com)
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Apr 08 - 09:11 AM There's a whole lot of nautical music being composed, as well as being revived, but you need to know where to look for it. Mudcat is a good resource and there are several "sea music" threads that might be revived and reviewed. One of the best festivals that you might consider attending takes place the second weekend of June in Mystic Connecticut, The Mystic Sea Music Festival. A number of sea music singers such as myself are also adapting old nautical poems for singing, poems by Kipling, John Masefield, C. Fox Smith and others. But there are also entirely new sea songs being put together. The San Franscisco Maritime Museum is also a center for sea music, with a full range of concerts and song sessions aboard their historic ships. Where are you located? And who are some of your favorite singers? Cheerily, Charley Noble Roll & Go |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Dan Schatz Date: 14 Apr 08 - 10:56 AM My brother Ken Schatz has a powerful duo called The NexTradition, and also sings solo. Dan |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Dave Swan Date: 14 Apr 08 - 11:34 AM Nauticus out here on the left coast. D |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: SINSULL Date: 14 Apr 08 - 11:44 AM Ye Mariner's All with John Roberts There will be a Maritime Festival in South Portland, ME in August. PM for details. Mary |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Cool Beans Date: 14 Apr 08 - 12:29 PM Lee Murdock, from Illinois, sings traditional songs of the Great Lakes and writes new ones. He performs all over the Great Lakes region (US and Canada) and has been known to venture beyond. He's very good. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Nick E Date: 14 Apr 08 - 05:48 PM Cheerily Charlie, I live in Connecticut so I have no excuse other than laziness that I don't go to Mystic. My interest in maritime was kindled when on my Honeymoon in Nova Scotia, I admit to becoming a total Great Big Sea Fanatic, owning all but the greatest hits "Rant & Roar" CDs and have seen them 5 times in the last 4 years. I had more fun there than at most of the Dead shows I ever went to. I also picked up the pennywhistle as a result of this interest, have about 9 assorted instruments including a few low whistles. Knowing of them (GBS) led to find out about people like Jim Payne and Fergus Obyrn (sp?), Stan Rogers, Masterless Men, Shannyganock, Ryan's Fancy and many others. I am however almost completely ignorant when it comes to US music makers as they are just a bit harder to find. In Atlantic Canada many of the names I mentioned are almost "mainstream" and even get radio airplay at least from CJYQ out of St Johns, Newfoundlan that I can listen to online. I can see how Maryland would have a vibrant maritime scene but there is no "mainstream" outlet for learning about such groups, so I thnak all those who gave me leads. I'll be looking into them. Nick |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,meself Date: 14 Apr 08 - 05:52 PM (Fergus O'Byrne). |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Nick E Date: 14 Apr 08 - 06:04 PM Thanks Meself, Took a quick look at a couple of the names mentioned and have to admit I'm a bit put off by the silly costumes, but that does not mean they don't have talent. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: radriano Date: 14 Apr 08 - 06:58 PM Ahoy from the San Francisco Bay Area. Let's see. There's: Riggy Rackin Holdstock & MacLeod Malcolm Rigby Peter Kasin & Richard Adrianowicz There's more but my brain is fizzing out. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Barry Finn Date: 14 Apr 08 - 07:38 PM And then from the right coast in the northeast there's Finn & Haddie , that's us/me & we do some of our own but mostly traditional shanties & songs. Sorry we're silly enough without costumes Barry |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: ClaireBear Date: 14 Apr 08 - 08:01 PM Also in San Francisco: Starboard Watch Dogwatch Nautical Band (of which I am now again a part) Sons of the Buccaneers There are also a wealth of us in the Northwest, which hasn't been much heard from yet, but I can't name most of them. And yes about the siliness of costumes, but that's the kind of gigs we get, mostly. Believe it or not I actually look better when I'm not wearing a hrizontally striped black-and-white jersey... Claire |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: mg Date: 15 Apr 08 - 01:51 AM There was talk of Parks Deaprtment here at mouth of COlumbia. Oregona nd Washington..putting on something this fall. Havn't heard too much. Tons of stuff in Seattle area especially..shanty sings, concerts on the Wawona, which I guess is no longer, lots of stuff at Folklife. mg |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Bat Goddess Date: 15 Apr 08 - 08:20 AM Portsmouth Maritime Folk Festival in Portsmouth, New Hampshire the last weekend in September (our 9th annual this year). PMFF Curmudgeon (Tom Hall) calls together a fluid group under the name The Dog Watch for other maritime events. We also host a monthly sea music singaround on the third Saturday of the month at The Press Room, less than two blocks from the harbor. Linn |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,Charley Noble Date: 15 Apr 08 - 08:40 AM Nick- Give the Mystic Sea Music Festival a try. There's an active thread here about this yer's Festival. There are evening concerts, day concerts and workshops, symposiums, and late night singing by all. Cheerily, Charley Noble, off to Orient Point |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,chanteymatt Date: 15 Apr 08 - 10:13 AM Ahoy from way over here! The Northwest Seaport holds monthly chantey-sings and maritime music concerts (www.nwseaport.org). The Tall Ships will be visiting Tacoma over the July 4th weekend. I've been working with the organizers rounding up all the local maritime musicians. Unfortunately, today was the cut-off date for application, but the promoters made it clear they wanted martime music and not cover bands at the festival There's also the Port Gamble Maritime Music Festival, August 16th. Port Gamble is a New England seaside town built on the Puget Sound. They have a web site but the url escapes me at the moment As for songwriters, there's Mary Garvey, Tom Lewis, Tom May, Teresa & Phillp Morgan, meself, and a host of others. And singers? Jeez. The list grows when you take in Chantey-Camp created & run by Hank Cramer. And yes, the Washington State Parks is involved and there'll be a one day chantey workshop held in November near Astoria OR. And Hey! What about our own Charley Noble? |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: iancarterb Date: 16 Apr 08 - 01:26 AM Matt- Web site for Tall Ships in Tack-o-ma? Carter |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Anglo Date: 16 Apr 08 - 02:43 AM My Dear Nick E, If only laziness prevents you from going to Mystic, then your interest in maritime music in the US can't be too profound. Perhaps you'll come this year, then, when you can introduce yourself to many of us who have tried to answer your question, and see how much remains unanswered. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: oldhippie Date: 16 Apr 08 - 07:34 AM Speaking of Mystic, lets not forget to add Bill Pere to this list. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Marc Bernier Date: 16 Apr 08 - 08:29 AM It's nice to see Hank Cramer's name mentioned. I hadn't heard his name in years and was recently wondering if he was still out there. Incidentally I myself have been described as a performer of Sea Music by some. It would seem however, that my skills, and repertoire, are not sufficient as to be included in certain circles. Cheers Marc |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: radriano Date: 16 Apr 08 - 10:36 AM Thank you, Claire! I knew I was leaving some names out but I had a limited amount of time to go online that day. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: ChanteyMatt Date: 16 Apr 08 - 02:08 PM Carter, The web site for the Tacoma Tall Ships is www.tallshipstacoma.com Tough one, eh? Marc, Hank Cramer is one of the giggingest musicians I know. He has plans to go and entertain the troops, this year. I also neglected to mention one of the finest songwriters on the west coast, David Lovine. His CD "Pierhead Jump" has been re-released by Ferry Boat Music. It is a "must have" in your maritime music collection. Fair Winds |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Charley Noble Date: 16 Apr 08 - 04:16 PM Matt- Thanks for the plug. I seem to remember there is a town on the Olympic Peninsular know as Gig Harbor. Is that where that fine nautical singer Hank Cramer resides? It's a great name and might function as a kind of Fiddler's Green for aging sea music performers. "Pierhead Jump" is a great title for a CD. I hope Lovine has come up with appropriate cover art. Cheerily, Charley Noble, back home in Maine |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,JS Date: 16 Apr 08 - 09:23 PM Nick, Coming from GBS as you are, I'd start with Pint & Dale (available on iTunes, no less). They have a similar mix rock & roll and traditional sensibility with a number of their tunes, in addition to being great musicians and nice people. (Incidentally, I think they serve play a really valuable role for sea music in reimagining the old songs to keep them from calcifying into standard modes of performance, but they also, as they say, rock.) As a transplant from Seattle to DC, I was going to chime in on NW musicians if Matt hadn't, but I'll just reinforce the recommendations for Hank Cramer and The Cutters (Philip & Teresa Morgan and sundry children and friends). Great vocalists, the lot of them. JS |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: mg Date: 16 Apr 08 - 09:39 PM The best I think are the women...see if you can get a CD of Broadside...mg |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Peter Kasin Date: 17 Apr 08 - 03:17 AM Some not yet mentioned: The Menhaden Chanteymen, and the Northern Neck Menhaden Chanteymen are two groups of source singers keeping those type of net-hauling chanteys alive. Keeping the Georgia Sea Islands traditions alive are the current lineup of the Georgia Sea Islands singers. Other sea music performers in the SF Bay Area are: Shay Black, Salty Walt and the Rattlin' Ratlines, Benjamin Wachs, Jonathan Goodwin, Nathalie Reginster, The Paddy Westers, Don Clark and Michele Delattre, Bruce Sherman, Tom Murphey, and though better known for English land-based folk songs, Oak, Ash & Thorn perform sea music, and very well. Cindy Kallet, of Maine's coast, writes some incredibly beautiful sea-based songs. Fred Gosbee is another fine Maine songwriter. Ida Red is one of the newer bands, made up of veteran chantey singers. Then there's Daphne (a member of Ida Red), Stephanie, and their mother Donna Glover. Oy, there are so many chantey singers in the U.S., including all the other chantey singers that have been on Mystic Seaport's staff, past and present: Geoff Kaufman, Michelle Moon, Glenn Grasso, David Littlefield, Rick Spencer, Carl Thornton, Rachel Thomas, the already mentioned Marc Bernier, Craig Edwards, and many others I'm sure. New York's Dan Milner & Bob Conroy, David Jones, Cliff Haslam, Liam Clancy of course ...The Johnson Girls were mentioned but deserve mention again. There's Dick Swain, Ellen Cohn, Debra Cowan, The Rum Soaked Crooks, Don Sinetti, Bob Webb, Compass Rose, Jeff Warner, Jeff Davis.... Singer/scholars Bob Walser, Revell Carr, Celeste Bernardo, Bob Webb. The list goes on and on, and I've gotta get some sleep. G'night, everybody! Chanteyranger |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: ChanteyMatt Date: 18 Apr 08 - 03:11 PM The group, Broadside, has one CD called "Divas of the Dockside". You can also find them under their previous name; Saint Elmos Choir. Hank Cramer doesn't reside in Gig Harbor, but on a horse ranch in eastern Washington state (more than 90 miles from shore). Kinda a cowboy/sailor. Most, if not all of the Puget Sound area maritime musicians will be performing at the Tall Ships Tacoma Festival July 3-7. There'll be music ashore and afloat. Sea battles will be fought, yarns spun and judies and johnnies a plenty. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,julia Date: 18 Apr 08 - 11:10 PM Charley- methinks you should plug the Maine Maritime Museum concerts here Nudge nudge wink wink All youse should check out Castlebay from Maine (Fred Gosbee is one half of the duo) |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,Gary Keep (Dogwatch Nautical Band) Date: 18 Apr 08 - 11:51 PM Yeah, it looks like there just aren't that many folks out there tearing out a tonsil doing Sea Music these days. HA HA HA! Richard, Claire and Peter pretty much covered the San Francisco area groups but they left out a few. One that comes to mind is the lunatic elder statesman of Bay Area Sea Music, Skip Henderson, and of course the rest of the Starboard Watch. Skips ben singing this stuff more than 50 years having performed in the "Folk Scare" of the early 60s at places like the Purple Onion and Hungry Eye. And it only took Skip 50 years to make it into the big time when Disney used the hornpipe set form the CD for the Pirates of the Caribbean tavern brawl. In 30 years of performing Sea Music n Dogwatch he's the only one I know of to make enough money from it to buy a two masted schooner to play with!;) I think the Bay Areas Sea Dogs should be included here. Steve Morales put on an amazing Pirate Festival last year with thousands of folks coming out to hear Tom Lewis, Skip & Starboard Watch, Holdstock and MacLeod and the rest of us nutcases. I know there are groups in the Los Angeles are doing Sea Music. It always amazes me to think Skip has been doing a weekly Sea Music gig almost every week since at least the early 80s, thats a lot of hualin on bowlines and way hey up she rises, not to mention "Leave her Johnnies". To al of you out there doing Sea Music, it sure is nice to know the songs will get carried on by new groups and singers I count myself very fortunate to have lived at a time when I have had a chance to meet an sing with so many of the groups mentioned. And then there was the Festival of the Sea when I was a ranger at Hyde St Pier and I was given the job of keeping Stan Hugill entertained for a couple of afternoons and evenings museum hopping and bar hopping around San Francisco and Berkeley...great memories. Thanks Peter(Chantey Ranger) for keeping the the monthly sings going two decades later! See yous mugs at the Pirate Festival in Vallejo,,, Gary |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Apr 08 - 11:55 PM Julia- Good idea! Alison Freeman and myself have organized a sea music Sunday concert series at the Maine Maritime Museum in Bath, Maine, beginning in June: June 22 - Bob Zentz and Alison Freeman & Charlie Ipcar July 20 - Bob Webb and Dave Peloquin August 17 - Castlebay and Roll & Go All concerts begin at 7:30 pm. All net profits go to the Bill & Gene Bonyun Endowment Fund. For more information or reservation contact the Maine Maritime Museum: click here! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Apr 08 - 10:47 AM It might be interesting to count how many times a particular group or individual has been posted in this thread. ;~) There are evidently parts of the U.S. that are not represented by a resident sea music group. No one has posted anyone from Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Nebraska, or Idaho. But I'm sure there's some resident group of piratical singers who regale folks around the Great Salt Lake in Nevada. I'm happy to see the Great Lakes well represented by Les Murdock. I'm less convinced that Mustard's retreat is a sea music band, even after hearing them featured at the Mystic Sea Music Festival. Does the duo Privateer still exist in the Chicago area? And does Hoolie still exist in Bay City, Michigan? I don't believe anyone has mentioned George Ward from Vermont who will be featured at Mystic this year. No candidates from Rhode Island? Well, I nominate Jon Campbell, famed for composing such nautical ditties as "Keep on Fishing," "Catch and Release," and "Tangueray Martini-O." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Barry Finn Date: 19 Apr 08 - 11:31 AM George Ward is from upstate New Youk & neighbor to John Roberts who sings with Tony Barrand & "Ye Mariners All". Already mentioned from the Rhode Island area were both Compass Rose & just west of them the "Rum Soaked Cooks". There are folks in New Orleans but at the moment there all trying to float there boats, KC King being one of them along with a host of others. Barry |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,Chanteyranger Date: 20 Apr 08 - 03:07 AM Hi, Gary! Yeah, Claire Bear mentioned The Starboard Watch already, hence I didn't have them on my list. I mentioned Steve Morales's bandunder their Dickens Fair name, "The Paddy Westers," though I probably should have used The Seadogs. Another New Yorker: Jan Christensen. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Apr 08 - 07:50 AM Another fine songwriter who does traditional style sea ballads would be Dillon Buston. I'm thinking back to "Aboard the Spray" but he's done many more, sometimes as components of major folk operas. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: ClaireBear Date: 20 Apr 08 - 05:57 PM I would love to hear some of his other stuff. I love "All Aboard the Spray" and "Shawneetown" but have never knowingly heard any others. Claire |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST Date: 31 May 08 - 01:40 AM Check out Hank Cramer and the USS Constellation Crew albums. Sing Out Magazine did a very complimentary article on their stuff. |
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Subject: RE: U.S. Maritime Music.. anybody making it? From: GUEST,Dr. Sax Date: 31 May 08 - 10:04 AM Great Big Sea gives a grand show. Also, not mentioned so far (because it isn't exclusively/officially "maritime music" oriented, perhaps?) is the Celtic Colours festival up Cape Breton way. Of course, that would be a festival celebrating a culture from the maritimes, not US, and not just "maritime music". But there isn't a better festival in all North America come October! |
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