Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,TEE
Date: 20 Jul 08 - 03:58 AM

More information: Singarounds in the bar over the course of the weekend will be led by our dear friends Alie Byrne & Steve Robinson. These will happen on Saturday lunchtime from 11.30 to 1.30 and on Sunday afternoon from 3.30 to 5.30.

Music sessions in the bar will be led on Saturday afternoon from 2 o'clock to 3.30 by Andrew Dinan and Friends and on Sunday afternoon from 2 o'clock to 3.30 by Chris Dyson and Mark Kane.


Organised sessions will not be programmed for the evenings but you are of course very welcome to start your own.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,TEE
Date: 18 Jul 08 - 07:52 PM

The following dance teams will be appearing at this year's Pickering Folk Festival;

HEAGUE WINDMILLERS
BUTTERCROSS BELLES
FLAG AND BONE GANG
GOATHLAND PLOUGH STOTS
PENGWYN RAPPER
CLOGARHYTHM

We have unfortunately to announce also that The Dead Rabbits, scheduled to appear on Friday night at the Late Night Dance session are not now able to appear due to illness. We are currently lining up a replacement.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Jul 08 - 07:05 AM

ah! but is it folkmusic by the 1854 definition....?

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,TEE
Date: 11 Jul 08 - 12:12 PM

Tickets for Pickering Folk Festival will be despatched as from Tuesday July 15th. Please keep them safe.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 04:39 AM

Only 5 weeks and 21 minutes Paul before that downpour! :-)

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 02:12 PM

Nutty, I'm 100% certain that none of us want to get personal. I simply want us all to enjoy whichever festival we choose to attend. It's a free world (well most of it) and there's enough festivals for all of us. I hope the sun shines on Saltburn and Pickering and we all get a full weekend of quality performance and participation and we all go home looking forward to our next festival. In my case, that'll be Towersey.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 12:30 PM

Points taken and questions answered (almost)..... just a shame this couldn't have been said in the beginning rather that making it a personal attack

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 12:09 PM

Ha, ha, ha. Reminds me of the line in St Joan where she goes up to the Dauphin of France and says; "Be you bastard?"

Seriously, though, nutty, I'm sure the good people of Pickering will want to wander the mile down to the site and enjoy the festival if they so wish. I'm equally sure that festival-goers will wander the mile up the road into Pickering (buses or no buses) to buy the odd loaf of excellent bread from one of the bakeries. They may even think "hey, this is a great place, I must come back here again". Well, it won't do the town any harm, will it? I expect that many people, like me, already know Pickering and what it has to offer (I'm sure I'll feel the urge to go and visit the Green Man Galleries). Who knows, some enterprising local traders may even have taken stands at the festival.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Banjiman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 12:06 PM

I'm really hoping that the second marquee is too full at 10.30 on Sunday morning of course..........we are really hoping for just 2 hours rain....10-12a.m. on said Sunday!

Paul

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 12:02 PM

Leveller - Of course, if the concert marquees get too full and the beer tent is bulging, we can still escape the rain by going into the 4000 capacity hall that they have on site. They have a bar there too I believe! I've been told by Rick (one of the organisers) that it's where they're holding ceilidhs and LNE's.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 11:57 AM

You have always made your intentions clear regarding your support of Saltburn Festival and your loathing of those dreadful people in Pickering and their audacity to start a folk festival on your patch.

There's more to going into a town than simply sitting in a pub singing or playing Nutty. I vist Towersey every year and always take a trip into Thame to have a look around and shop. I never feel the urge to start up a session though. Of course Pickering businesses will benefit.

I also think that Simon Boak is entitled to express his hopes and wishes like the rest of us.

Incidentally, don't you think that BASTARD is a bit strong? It's only a bit of fun my dear.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 11:38 AM

Bastard and Leveller .... I can assure you I have an extremely good grip on the situation and as far as I am aware I have never yet referred to Saltburn FF which I will be attending.

I draw your attention to the following....

Pickering Folk Festival will bring thousands of visitors to the town over the weekend and will put the Pickering Showground on the map as a serious music venue. Local businesses in Pickering and Malton will benefit from the extra trade and local people will be able to enjoy a weekend of quality entertainment.

and

Simon Boak of The Events Office said "We are very pleased to be able to offer such a high level of entertainment to the people of Pickering and to be able to help local commerce at the same time.

if as you state ... nothing is likely to be happening off site, how are the organisers going to achieve this.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 11:05 AM

"I know that many festivals this year have struggled with slow ticket sales" means EXACTLY that Dave.

Whereas "I'm not suggesting that festivals struggled to improve on their sales" means something completely different.

The first is to do with ticket sales leading up to the event. The second is to do with eventual ticket sales. Improved sales could be done at the last minute. For example, a festival might sell only 50% of its total tickets with 4 weeks to go and historically this might have been 70%. But on the actual day of the festival they might sell out as they always do. Therefore ticket sales were sluggish but with the same outcome.

I think that Cambridge and Glastonbury can cope with a little opinionated twat like me don't you Dave? In fact I'm sure they can cope with any opinionated twat! They can probably cope cope with supercilious types too.

Cambridge to me is not a folk festival in name only. It may not be your idea of a folk festival but it is to me. So please tell me which genre you would place the following acts under.....

k.d. lang - JOAN ARMATRADING - LEVELLERS - THE IMAGINED VILLAGE
BILLY BRAGG - JOHN HIATT - JUDY COLLINS - ALLEN TOUSSAINT
SETH LAKEMAN - ERIC BIBB - ELIZA CARTHY - MARTHA WAINWRIGHT
THE WAIFS - ALTAN - PEATBOG FAERIES - TIM O'BRIEN - KARINE POLWART
MICHAEL McGOLDRICK BAND - LAURA MARLING - BASSEKOU KOUYATE & NGONI BA - TUNNG
KÍLA - DEVON SPROULE - CHRIS WOOD - CHERRYHOLMES - BRIAN McNEILL
MAUVAIS SORT - LISA KNAPP - HOT 8 BRASS BAND - BEOGA - GRUPO FANTASMA
FRANK TURNER - WHAPWEASEL - ROSS AINSLIE & JARLATH HENDERSON - ELIZABETH COOK
THE CHAIR - 3 DAFT MONKEYS - NOAH & THE WHALE - JEANA LESLIE & SIOBHAN MILLER - 6 DAY RIOT
KIDSAMONIUM - FINDLAY NAPIER & THE BAR ROOM MOUNTAINEERS - MEGSON - THE SHIVERS

Looks pretty damned folkie to me Dave! Perhaps you should listen to some of it!

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 10:38 AM

So let me get this right - on the one hand you say:

I know that many festivals have suffered this year with slow ticket sales.

and then on the other:

I'm not suggesting that festivals struggled to improve on their sales Dave.

It seemed to me that was precisely what the first sentence meant.

Then you mention Glastonbury - whose other problems of rain and mud and expense and line-ep must have contributed to the sluggish sales - and Cambridge - which to me is a folk festival in name only and counts as a mini-Glastonbury as far as I am concerned. Friends of mine are not going for precisely that reason, not folky enough for them. But I wouldn't dare draw any conclusions from that.

It's not for me to discuss other people's business on here

unless it is to discuss Glastonbury or Cambridge presumably.....

but I have been reliably informed that much of this is the case.

I had the Chair of Folk Arts England on my radio show recently and we discussed this in great detail,(especially done for my listener).

As far as his information was concerned, and he goes to a lot of festivals, tickets sales for folk festivals were on the up and that confirms all my own experience. I quoted festivals where I personally knew this to be the case. And it seems to me that your own experience at Dent and Leicester indicates it to be true.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 10:28 AM

"This is a definite possibility if there is bad weather - which is also a possibility but not one that seems to have been considered so far."

Nutty, I'm glad you're so concerned for our welfare and comfort. We'll probably all end up standing around in the rain getting soaked. Oh, I'll tell you what, let's go into one of these big marquees or the big beer tent (bound to be one). Hey, that's a good idea! Look, it's dry and there's lots of room – and not a pool table, fruit machine or juke box in sight (and if there are any loud drunken yobs, it'll probably be me).

Remember how crap the weather was at Whitby last year? We ended up spending more time wandering round the stalls inside than anywhere else. Tried to get into a couple of singarounds but they were packed like sardines and 8-year old daughter hated it. Not a happy experience. Cambridge, however, even though it was very soggy, was much more enjoyable - lots of space for kids to run around and make a noise without being shushed by grumpy sods with melodeons.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 09:59 AM

I'm not suggesting that festivals struggled to improve on their sales Dave. Simply that ticket sales leading up were sluggish. Ask a lot of promoters and they'll tell you. Good examples being Glastonbury with tickets still on sale the day before (unheard of) and Cambridge FF which usually sells out pretty instantly. It's not for me to discuss other people's business on here but I have been reliably informed that much of this is the case.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 09:31 AM

Nutty, why don't you get a grip of the situation? You are adopting your anti-Pickering stance once again and pissing me off for one. I'm not an organiser, merely someone that's looking forward to a cracking time in a couple of fields in North Yorkshire in August. Is that okay with you? You obviously hold Saltburn dear to your heart and nobody can deny you that. I'm sure that you look forward to it all year round. Just for f***'s sake let me look forward to Pickering please.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 09:13 AM

"We only want to have a weekend playing, singing and listening in the sun (well you never know!)........ "

Haven't you forgotten something, Paul?

(Think BEER!)

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 09:09 AM

TBSOMF - FAR OUT!

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 08:40 AM

I know that many festivals have suffered this year with slow ticket sales.

And I know just the opposite. Dent - which you mentioned - was a sellout. I believetrhe Big Session had a big increase in numbers.

Cheltenham, Shepley, Gate to Southwell, Wychwood, Moniaive all had increases.

If you could post the festivals that you know about it may be possible perhaps to see if there are any common issues?

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 08:21 AM

GUEST - The Bastard

Please stop being so defensive, Nothing I have said was directed at you personally so unless you are an organiser why get so upset?

My original comment was.....
If as you say, the festival is going to be confined to the showground - what would be the point of putting on transport to take people to and from the town? Something the organisers say they have arranged.

I was asking a valid question. That question has been partially clarified by one of the organisers. Yes they are putting on a free bus.

So why are they doing it?
So that people can go into Pickering and do whatever they want to do. Some people might want to shop - some might want to sit in a pub and play music.

This is a definite possibility if there is bad weather - which is also a possibility but not one that seems to have been considered so far.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 08:02 AM

Yes Nutty, there IS going to be a free bus. The only person that suggested there wasn't was you. And there may well be a session in a pub there but I doubt it. I wouldn't want to pay £65 for a weekend ticket and spend it in a pub when there's lots of beer on site and (hopefully) lots of sunshine.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Banjiman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 08:00 AM

Hi Betsy,

"Nutty will be OK where she's already going". So if she has no intention of going to Pickering, do you have any idea what her issue is?

We only want to have a weekend playing, singing and listening in the sun (well you never know!)........ I now feel that I am doing something wrong doing this at Pickering (??instead of Saltburn..... which we did thoroughly enjoy last year by the way).

Cheers

Paul

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 07:57 AM

Leveller you've got my old mind churning over now re; your Woodstock comment. I would love to be able to put on a festival on two stage involving 40 bands at Pickering. Those bands (from the Woodstock era or slightly later) would probably be (in no particular order) - Hawkwind, Edgar Broughton Band, Gong (with Gilli Smyth), Kevin Ayers And The Whole World, Kevin Coyne, Curtis Mayfield, The Pink Fairies, Curved Air, John Martyn, Soft Machine, Tyrannosaurus Rex, Fairport Convention, Lindisfarne, The Strawbs, Pink Floyd, Caravan, David Bowie (circa 1970/71), The Faces, Mountain, Richie Havens, Osibisa, Family, CCS, Steeleye Span, Man, Focus, Captain Beefheart, Gram Parsons, Sensational Alex Harvey Band, Syd Barrett, Pete Brown, Faust, The Who, Quintessance, Led Zeppelin, Nick Drake, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, Bonzo Dog Do Da Band, Jimi Hendrix.

Quite a mix and one hell of a budget! You are responsible Leveller for dragging the old hippy out of me.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,Betsy at Work
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 07:55 AM

Nutty will be OK where she's already going

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 07:37 AM

Tell you what, nutty, come along and start one.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 07:18 AM

So .... there is going to be a free bus

People will be going into Pickering

Is it beyond the realms of possibility that there might be a session in a pub there?

After all they are calling it the PICKERING FOLK FESTIVAL.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Gedpipes
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 06:51 AM

Thanks TBSofMF
Ged

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: old salty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 06:48 AM

Well, Now the old bus thingy is sorted, can we please get on with getting EXCITED! Thanks,Leveller ,i'll listen out for you all.

       salty x

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 06:33 AM

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,TEE
Date: 30 Apr 08 - 01:12 PM

We have been asked on several occasions if there will be a free bus shuttle service from the festival site to the town.
I can confirm that this will be the case and that the shuttle bus will run all weekend.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 06:25 AM

Salty - we have a flag which says 'Whipstaff' on it with a picture of a dog - mainly so we can find our way back when we're the worse for drink. If we're singing you'll hear us, believe me! (You'll need to bring your own seating, though!)

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 06:21 AM

Nutty, at no point did I suggest that they won't be running the buses. Where did you get that from? I'm simply going by the literature. It states "The venue is one mile South of Pickering - the gateway to the North Yorkshire Moors National Park. A free shuttle bus will be operating from the festival to the town centre". I'm simply assuming that is still the case. Parking in Pickering is more or less non-existent.

Gedpipes - I think the answer is probably no.

Leveller - It will replace Cambridge for me too. I hope they do well and grow in stature. I know that many festivals have suffered this year with slow ticket sales. Some not even selling out when they often do on a regular basis. I guess it's been a struggle with there being too many festivals and little cash around. I went to Dent and The Big Session recently and they had guys there giving out fliers to everyone. They can't be accused of not trying at least. For me, it's local, spacious, has ample parking, great line-ups, two beer tents etc. Long may it survive and I hope the organisers continue with it. They appear to have done most things right so far. Mind you, with their experience in running events, they should do of course.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: old salty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 05:43 AM

I think if we get some good singing + music sessions going on site
   we dont need to go into Pickering, unless for a look round or supplies! (BEER). Will you put a big sign up,Leveller, if singing under your awning so i dont get the wrong one.!

                                 see you there !
                                                    Salty X

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Gedpipes
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 04:29 AM

all I asked was are there any pubs that are having musicians sessions

no agenda just a simple question

Blue skies
Ged

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Banjiman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 03:42 AM

"I think it was guest who provided the doubt."

You've kind of lost me there? The guest clearly says buses will be provided, you seem to cast some doubt on this..... have you heard something that the rest of us don't know?

Not that I can see us leaving the showground, greenfield Festivals are so much easier with children than festivals with multiple locations scattered around a town (though we do still go to these). They actually feel like a holiday!

Cheers

Paul

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 03:41 AM

Nutty, the point of putting on transport is that parking in Pickering is a nightmare, so it makes sense to avoid further congestion and still give people a chance to walk around town, which has some fantastic foods shops and other attractions. We will be bringing our bikes so that if we want to go into town we can do so under our own steam. Personally, with a young daughter, I don't want to go to singarounds in town pubs - I much prefer it being all on the one site. If all else fails, our caravan awning has seen many a good singaround - often late into the night (bring your own booze!).

TBSOMF, I love that phrase 'temporary nation' - puts me in mind of Woodstock (oh dear, showing my age now).

Come on, nutty, give it a chance - let's see how it works out. If it's as good as it promises to be, it'll replace Cambridge for me from now on.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 03:33 AM

I think it's fairly obvious that, as the site is a mile from the town, has two beer tents and covers a vast expanse of land , that they probably won't be using the pubs in town for music. It's clearly a festival that is to be held on one site only.

I think it was guest who provided the doubt.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Banjiman
Date: 03 Jul 08 - 03:28 AM

"If as you say, the festival is going to be confined to the showground - what would be the point of putting on transport to take people to and from the town? Something the organisers say they have arranged."

Nutty, have you heard something to say that this is not the case? You sound doubtful?

Paul

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 08:58 PM

I've said that the festival is confined to the showground, yes, but there's nothing stopping people going into the town at any point to take a look around. After all, Pickering is a lovely place. I think it's great that the organisers are laying on a bus to take people from the site to the town. I live near Pickering so it doesn't interest me. I hope they do get thousands of people. They deserve to with the line-up they've produced.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 08:48 PM

I am not in the least bit bitter , nor am I trying to wind anyone up, but I am as entitled as you are to voice an opinion.

I am merely wondering where all there thousands of people, who are going to benefit the local economy, are coming from.

If as you say, the festival is going to be confined to the showground - what would be the point of putting on transport to take people to and from the town? Something the organisers say they have arranged.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 08:40 PM

I thought the original publicity said that the local businesses would benefit from the festival. I think it's fairly obvious that, as the site is a mile from the town, has two beer tents and covers a vast expanse of land , that they probably won't be using the pubs in town for music. It's clearly a festival that is to be held on one site only. Much the way that Cambridge is. I for one don't want to go trapsing around Pickering looking for a session. I'm happy staying put in the temporary nation that is Pickering Folk Festival.

And you nutty need to stop trying to wind everyone up again. Are you still bitter?

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: nutty
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 03:33 PM

I think perhaps that Ged was referring to pubs in Pickering. The organisers did say, in their initial publicity, that the town was going to be fully involved.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Banjiman
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 01:25 PM

I don't know about pubs but I see from the website that you can buy £2 arena tickets that allow you access to everything on the Showground (so I assume sessions and singarounds)except the 2 main stages.

Here's a link to the website that might work as well.

Paul

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Gedpipes
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 12:38 PM

which pubs are going to musician session friendly?

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 11:46 AM

Going to get there as close to 12 as possible to get a good spot for the caravan and avoid the traffic. Anyone know the site and have any idea where the best spot is likely to be (want to be as close as possible to the beer tent and far away from anyone who we're likely to annoy with our singing)?

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: Banjiman
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 11:28 AM

Web site looks good TEE.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,TEE
Date: 01 Jul 08 - 12:52 PM

The website has now been updated and includes pictures, biographies and timings. A list of dance teams, ceilidhs, late night dances. children's entertainment, workshops, sessions and singarounds will be announced shortly.

We are still looking for stewards at the event as well. If you are interested then please apply using the online form on the website.

www.pickeringfolkfestival.com

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 12:36 PM

I've been assured that they're sending them out in the next two weeks.

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: theleveller
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 10:19 AM

Me too! Haven't received my tickets yet but it'll be great!

Subject: RE: Pickering Festival - LINE UP (UK)
From: GUEST,The Bastard Son Of Marty Feldman
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 10:15 AM

Me too Paul............. 's gonna be a gas!!!!