BS: Hezbollah's next war.

Subject: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Peace
Date: 13 May 08 - 12:00 AM

Time to bash Hezbollah. I'll start one tomorrow about Hamas.

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Peace
Date: 13 May 08 - 12:05 AM

Unlike the premise of the Israel-bashing thread (well, Jew bashing is more like it), perhaps there could be some fact in this one? Maybe we could locate information more current than April 5, 2005. (That was the date of the article that was linked to in the first post of the "Let's get the folks outta the woodwork and attack Israel in particular and Jews in general" thread.)

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Peace
Date: 13 May 08 - 12:06 AM

Oh, one last thing. No racial attacks, please. Not against anyone, and that includes Arabs.

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Peace
Date: 13 May 08 - 12:07 AM

And if this puts a burr up someone's ass, tough shit!

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 May 08 - 06:49 AM

1. Look at the UN truce terms of the Lebenon/Israel "war"

Have ANY terms other than those imposed on Israel been implemented?
Note the "No resupply of Hezboallah arms"
Have the Israeli solders been returned, as the Truce requires?

2. Look at the statements by Hezboallah as to the number of rockets they had/have.

Before the Israeli "invasion"          12,000
Fired into Israel during the "war"       4,000
Claimed about 3 months after the truce 30,000

3. Look at the present fighting in Lebenon ( with NO Israelis involved).

Next???? How about PRESENT ( against Lebenon)???

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 May 08 - 08:20 AM

Lebanese army expands deployment to impose order
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:26:05 AM
By BASSEM MROUE

The Lebanese army expanded its troop deployment to several tense areas around the country Tuesday, saying its soldiers would use force if needed to impose order after clashes between the U.S.-backed government and Hezbollah-led opposition.

The army, which is respected by the militant Hezbollah group, has played a central role in defusing the violence that started last Wednesday by calling on armed supporters from both sides to leave the streets.

But it has remained neutral in the conflict and did not intervene as Shiite gunmen from Hezbollah overran much of western Beirut and the offices of Sunni parliamentary majority leader, Saad Hariri.

The army's announcement signaled that it could step up its involvement to bring an end to the country's worst internal fighting since the end of the civil war in 1990, which has left at least 54 people dead and scores more wounded.

"Army units will prevent any violations, whether by individuals or groups, in accordance with the law even if this is going to lead to the use of force," said an army statement released late Monday.

One reason the army had largely stayed out of the fighting was the fear that its forces could break apart along sectarian lines as they did during the civil war.

The army statement said troops would prevent armed civilians from roaming the streets and called on all groups in the country to cooperate.

Hezbollah supporters and their allies were seen in several areas of Beirut on Tuesday, but none of them were carrying weapons. Streets in the capital were busy as more businesses opened, but schools and universities remained closed. Also, many roads were still blocked by opposition supporters, including the highway leading to the country's only international airport.

The tense areas where troops deployed early Tuesday included the northern city of Tripoli that witnessed heavy clashes the day before. The army also continued its deployment in the mountains overlooking Beirut and several neighborhoods in the capital.

President Bush expressed his support for the Lebanese army on Monday during an interview with Al-Arabiya television, saying Washington would continue to supply and train the country's forces.

"We want to make them better so they can respond," Bush said.

The president confirmed that the U.S. military has moved the destroyer USS Cole off the coast of Lebanon but said it was "part of a routine training mission that had been scheduled a long time before."

Army commander Gen. Michel Suleiman is the consensus candidate for president and the army's success in calming violence in the country could enhance his chances of being elected.

Bush said in his interview that the U.S. would continue its support for the Lebanese government and keep up pressure on Iran and Syria, which back Hezbollah. The U.S. considers Hezbollah a terrorist organization and has repeatedly called on the militant group to disarm.

The president also called on Arab nations to support Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora. Arab foreign ministers met in Egypt on Sunday and pledged to send a delegation to Beirut to help find a solution. The delegation was expected in Beirut on Wednesday.

The recent unrest exploded out of a 17-month political deadlock between the government and the opposition as each jockey for power.

When the government sacked an airport security chief with alleged links to Hezbollah and declared the movement's private telecommunications network a threat to the state, the well-armed and highly organized militia responded.

Within days, Hezbollah and their allies swept through the city displacing pro-government gunmen, as the army stood by.

The army has offered Hezbollah a compromise. It said the airport security chief would retain his post and recommended to the government that it reverse the decision on the phone network. The government has not yet responded to the recommendation.

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Peace
Date: 13 May 08 - 09:44 AM

Thanks for the posts, BB.

Life isn't just politics. Have you been writing (poetry)? If so, would you message me a few? I have always enjoyed your work.

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Ghost of Electricity (inactive)
Date: 13 May 08 - 11:13 AM

It seems there hadn't been a bash Israel/Jews thread at Mudcat for a long while. But as soon as Hezbollah invaded Beirut and attatcked the legitimate government of Lebanon, one quickly flared up. Coincidence?

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Peace
Date: 13 May 08 - 01:41 PM

The folks who keep bashing Israel--and Jews--tend to be blind to injustice when it's perpetrated by Hezbollah or Hamas. Up front: when Israel and Lebanon were having a war I think I was one of very few people from Mudcat to write the Israeli government (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) and request they back off. The folks on that "let's bash Israel/Jews thread" are long on talk and hatred and short on a concept of fairness. But then that ain't their agenda, is it? I've had messages from two 'catters who are leaving because of that shit. Strange world when your religion or ethnicity can be attacked and fair-mined folks say nothing about it. C'est la vie.

Subject: RE: BS: Hezbollah's next war.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 May 08 - 01:51 PM

I'm going to close this thread for today and let the topic cool down. If you'd like to continue the discussion in the original thread, ask me by personal message tomorrow and I'll reopen it. This thread will remain closed, since it's just a copycat of an already-troublesome thread.


-Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-