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Subject: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 16 May 08 - 02:38 PM

Just heard that a book on the Radio Ballads entitled 'Set Into Song' by Peter Cox, is imminent. No more details yet, but will pass them on when I get them.
Also the long awaited biography of A L Lloyd by Dave Arthur is due out in November.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Def Shepard
Date: 16 May 08 - 04:42 PM

Set Into Song - Peter Cox

Published Date: 01/06/2008 RRP: £20.00 Publisher: Labatie Books

Here


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: nutty
Date: 16 May 08 - 05:04 PM

I understand that the Peter Cox book is being launched on Sunday at Shepley Festival


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Leadfingers
Date: 16 May 08 - 09:02 PM

I think I am short only one of the Radio Ballad CDs ! Must check and get sorted ! The book could well be a useful source of info .


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Jon Bartlett
Date: 17 May 08 - 02:03 AM

Please - details of the Lloyd book! Is it Arthur`s? And who`s the publisher?

Jon Bartlett


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 May 08 - 02:11 AM

Dave Arthur's Bert: The Life and Work of A.L. Lloyd will be published by EFDSS in the autumn.

http://www.efdss.org/news.htm#blce


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 May 08 - 03:26 AM

All looking very interesting.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 17 May 08 - 05:19 AM

Peter Cox's Set Into Song; Ewan MacColl, Charles Parker, Peggy Seeger and the Radio Ballads is due to be published on 1st June. The book is privately published and available from the author at http://www.setintosong.co.uk/

It is also available from Amazon UK at http://www.amazon.co.uk/Set-into-Song-MacColl-Charles/dp/0955187710/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211014553&sr=1-1

The jacket price and the price quoted on Amazon is £20-00, although copies bought from the Set Into Song website are quoted at £15-00 inc p&p.

I received an advance copy a couple of days ago. While I obviously haven't had time to read it yet, it looks a handsome, meticulous and well thought out production, which should do a lot to enhance our knowledge of the programmes themselves, as well as all the principal characters involved.

One interesting innovation. Minor endnotes, plus footnotes and bibliography will be posted on the website, rather than in the book. These will be together with transcriptions of all the radio ballads. I understand the author also intends using the site to post any further information which comes to light, plus any errors or omissions which may need correction.

Unfortunately I've lost the list of launch dates which Peter sent me, although interested parties can doubtless get them from him. However, the one launch I will be at takes place on Tuesday July 1st in the commmunity centre at Dove Holes, Derbyshire. That's about about as close as you can get to Bibbington Top where the runaway started.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 May 08 - 09:36 AM

Please keep us up to date.

Very interesting.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 18 May 08 - 03:50 AM

I will be at the event on Sat 14 June in East London

The News from Nowhere Club
The Epicentre
West Street
Leytonstone
London E11 4LJ

Buffet at 7.30 (bring something if you can) followed by Pter Cox Talk and discussion at 8.00

Not sure where else.

The flyer for the Event Mentions book and CD will be available. Not sure what the CD is.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:45 AM

The "CD" will probably be copies of the Topic CDs of the Radio Ballads.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:35 AM

That's what I assumed Fred but as it was single I was wondering if there was a special issue "sampler" tied in with the book but I guess it's just the Topic set.

In fact Walthamstow Folk Club has had an email from Peter Cox about the launch at it mentions 4 events

10 May at 3.30        Birmingham central library lecture theatre
18 May at 10.45        Shepley Folk Festival
20 May at 6.30        The Sage, Gateshead
25 May at 3.15        Blackheath Concert Halls recital room

These are/were apparently before concerts on Peggy Seeger's tour so I guess the June event in Leytonstone is a special with the author giving more of a talk and leading a discussion so should be very interesting.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 18 May 08 - 09:24 AM

I think you'll find that Peter Cox has bought up Topic's remaining stocks of the radio ballad CDs. So if there's any you're short of, now is probably a good time to remedy the shortfall.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Peter Cox
Date: 20 May 08 - 07:57 AM

I'm in Gateshead before a launch at 6.30 that precedes a Peggy Seeger concert here this evening. I do a c 45 min presentation followed by a discussion, and Peggy will be here for this one, plus a rapidly recovering Louis Killen (from eye-wateringly heroic surgery) plus (I hope) Colin Ross. It's free, so if anyone's in the area do come along.

Next Sun 25th I'm in Blackheath doing the same thing at 3.15, so the same applies. I'm doing the Leytonstone one that Kevin mentions, then one on July 1 in Dove Holes village hall. That's the last station John Axon went through alive before he crashed, and July 1 is the day before the 50th anniversary of its first broadcast.

The website's at www.setintosong.co.uk, and thus far I've put on the first two pages of each chapter, so you can get the flavour. You can order the book from me directly from there, which cuts out the middle men (and gives me a chance of breaking even...). By the end of May the bibliog, detailed footnotes, and transcripts of all the programmes will be up on the site. I just need to get these launches out of the way before I can finalise it. Delighted to hear from any of you via the website, privately, or publicly though Mudcat.

As for the Radio Ballad CDs, the wrestling match to get them back into copyright between me, Tony Engle of Topic and the BBC is one story too many. Suffice it to say that Tony reckons they should be back in copyright and on sale this week. Check the Topic site. Meanwhile I have copies of all but Travelling People (who, of course, have been moved on...).


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Henryp
Date: 20 May 08 - 12:51 PM

Mick Peat had a very interesting interview with Peter Cox yesterday evening on his Folkwaves show on BBC Radio Derby. Mick did fall into one trap concerning Gypsies!


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 May 08 - 06:15 PM

Meanwhile I have copies of all but Travelling People (who, of course, have been moved on...).

Only to be born someplace else....

I was privileged to have a stall next to Peter at Shepley Festival - a newcomer to the folk scene he has plugged in very quickly.

And more importantly - the book is great. I bought my copy at the Shepley Festival and read it from cover to cover.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 08 - 04:18 AM

Dave,
Got my copy yesterday, haven't had a chance to read it through - jay - you must be a fast reader - sit in the corner and write 3000 on it, and bring it to me before the end of class!!!
At a quick glance, it's beautifully produced, appears to be very well researched and looks extremely readable.
Look forward to reading it - thanks Peter.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Folkiedave
Date: 21 May 08 - 04:54 AM

Hi Jim,

http://www.studygs.net/texred2.htm

is what I use and I used to teach people this as well as part of their study skills.

Looks more complicated than it is!!

Dave


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 21 May 08 - 06:02 AM

Thanks Jim for the heads up, and obviously Peter - just sent my details off (cutting out the middle man). Looking forward to reading this!


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 08 - 07:48 AM

There are signs that this will be available on the Book Depository site, which I have found to be a great source in the past,
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 08 - 03:08 PM

Ah Dave - but is it art?
Seriously, thanks for that
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 08 - 03:10 PM

So that's what War and Peace is about!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 22 May 08 - 03:38 AM

Excellent Jim!


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Llanfair
Date: 22 May 08 - 03:52 PM

I've ordered mine!!


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Def Shepard
Date: 22 May 08 - 04:00 PM

I've just been reading the chapter parts on Peter's website, thanks for that, Peter. I'm definitely purchasing this book.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Peter Cox
Date: 23 May 08 - 12:52 PM

Further to the Radio Ballad CD issue, Topic have told me that the new CDs have just arrived, and they'll be putting them on sale on Tuesday, presumably with some website indication that they are now back on sale.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Susanne (skw) on the road
Date: 24 May 08 - 11:05 AM

Listened to Peter Cox's informative talk on the Ballads and the research for the book at Shepley and bought it straight away. From what I've seen so far (no time to really read it on the road), it's going to be invaluable in keeping the making of the ballads and their importance on record.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Peter Cox
Date: 29 May 08 - 05:16 PM

Note that the book's website - www.setintosong.co.uk - now has the detailed footnotes, bibliography, and full transcripts of each programme loaded. A combination of pseudo academic rigour and nerdy overkill, according to taste...


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Newport Boy
Date: 30 May 08 - 03:35 AM

The Topic website now has the Radio Ballads.

I received an email this morning

Ewan MacColl, Charles Parker & Peggy Seeger "The Radio Ballads" (tscd801 - 808)

We want to celebrate the re-release at Mid-Price of the original and ground breaking Radio Ballads!

• You can buy them individually at £7.23 [plus tax in the UK and EU], but if you buy all 8 Radio Ballads at the special price of £42.55 [that's £50 including VAT in the UK and EU] not only will you save over 25% on the individual CD price ... you'll also receive the 16 track Ewan MacColl CD "Solo Flight" COMPLETELY FREE!!!

Recorded in 1972 for Argo Records, "Solo Fight" was released on CD in 2000, but it has been out of print for several years now and it's not available elsewhere.


Phil


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 30 May 08 - 01:52 PM

Although the complete programme is not available. Extended samples are available through the BBC website here
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: Def Shepard
Date: 30 May 08 - 02:00 PM

Peter Cox has really gone to town with the programme transcripts, I'm thoroughly enjoying reading them, fascinating stuff. Huge thanks Peter.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,Peter Cox
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 10:21 AM

Radio Ballad enthusiasts should note that Charles Parker's daughter Sara - an interviewer for the 2006 series - has produced a documentary about the originals, to be broadcast on 21 June on Radio 4 at 8pm in the Archive Hour slot. And there's another one on its way, made by an Australian named Ros Bluett, which will go out on ABC from Sydney (2pm their time, mind) on 26 July. It'll be downloadable from the ABC site for the following month, but I do have a copy if anyone wants to hear it in advance.


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Subject: RE: Radio Ballads/Lloyd biography
From: GUEST,John McDonnell, Dublin 24
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 02:33 PM

Just read threads. Congratulations to Peter Cox.
Will order my copy tomorrow. Very much looking forward to Dave Arthur's book on Bert Lloyd.
Patiently awaiting publication date.
Good news. A new edition of my book "Songs of Struggle and Protest"
(long out of print) will be published by Irish Labour History Society
in early September 2008.


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