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Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?

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Subject: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: farmsong
Date: 26 May 08 - 09:11 AM

I am looking for an alternative to Paltalk for playing live music on the internet. Does anyone know of any newer websites that offer this service without all the BS & cost that comes with Paltalk?

~Jeff


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: dwditty
Date: 26 May 08 - 09:21 AM

Second Life


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 May 08 - 07:03 PM

Yahoo Chat has a live sound 'voice chat' facility, somewhere in it, but I haven't tried it for a quite a while. I also find that the last versions that work with Win9x & Fedora somewhat lacking, and have tried playing with Trillian, etc.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 May 08 - 07:12 PM

BTW, Paltalk USED to have a free version - that's all I ever used.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 May 08 - 10:10 PM

Me, too, Fooles. When did they start charging, I wonder?

Second Life...my Rog spends an hour or two of an evening listening to lots of different music there.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: dwditty
Date: 27 May 08 - 12:43 PM

I believe there is stiall a free version of paltalk (IF YOU CAN LIVE WITH POP-UP ADS).

Second Life has far better sound quality, but it takes patience to figure it all out. Free version works fine. SL music is usually done in a "concert" format (shows are usually an hour) rather than "open mic" format. Another huge feature of SL is the ability to "jam" in real time with others using the voice chat feature. People also "chain" performances from one to the next allowing a mix of several musicians o be recorded.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Francy
Date: 27 May 08 - 01:42 PM

Hi dw........I'm going to try to install Second Life....wish me luckkkkkk......Frank of Toledo


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 May 08 - 01:54 PM

I use PalTalk, and have for lo, these many moons. For one year I did pay to maintain the Pop-Up free status, then resumed free service.

I don't get pop-ups, which may be due to the pop-up prevention in Norton.

I like the open mike format of PalTalk. I'll probably try Second Life, but frankly I have no desire to have a simultaneous jam. I am a solo act, for good or ill.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Francy
Date: 27 May 08 - 04:35 PM

I would like to stay on paltalk, like Dave I'm a solo kind oof performer, but I can't seem to be able to stay on Paltalk.....Some technical mumbo jumbo that I can't figure out....Frank of Toledo


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: farmsong
Date: 29 May 08 - 12:08 AM

Thanks for the tips everyone. Dwditty, wow Second Life is amazing, but it is a bit overwhelming for a newbie. There is definitely a learning curve.

Are there still Mudcat song sessions in Paltalk Frank? If so, when do folks play there?

Frank, I once sang a couple of Woody Guthrie songs for a concert you organized for Paltalk, a number of years ago.

~Jeff


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 May 08 - 06:57 AM

Second Life is also mostly useless

1) without Broadband

2) for Systems that are not Windows XP or Vista.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: reggie miles
Date: 29 May 08 - 01:23 PM

PT has constantly upgraded but I've never found their system adequate for my particular connection to the web and I have DSL. While some seemed to sound wonderfully via this site, others, like me, were never been able to manage to get the combination of software settings and hardware tools together to really shine in that environment. I think that's PT's weak point. It's not functional enough for everyone to use with reasonably adequate results for all. You'd get booted offline often and the sound of some who were trying to share their music was poor no matter what combination of port settings were used.

It would have been great to have a place where anyone with minimal hardware and software tools and connection speeds could have been able to both access the rooms and also be able to sound good and be heard well by others too. But, I guess that dream is somewhere ahead yet. Or perhaps it just hasn't been seized by the scene because no one can figure out how to make a profit from it yet.

It was during one of my visits to PT, now years ago, that someone pointed me in the direction of Skype. He told me that the clarity was positively the best and he was right. The problem that I had was staying connected. The connection would die on me after about one minute. I don't know what kind of advances they may have made since then or if things got costly as a result of their popularity.

SL was a huge piece of software to load onto my system and like PT very tenacious when I wanted to try to get rid of it. I wasn't a fan of the fantasy environment that SL offered. I wanted to share my music. I just wasn't so keen on having to develop an entire cyber alterego to do it. What bothered me most is that I couldn't use my owmn name. I had to use one of their cyber alternates.

Once I got in I was offered $250 cyber dollars. I sometimes wonder what's become of my cyber cash and persona.

I imagine that with the popularity of role playing games, those who enjoy them will be long be visiting SL. As for me, I've got plenty to do in this life.

One interesting aside to SL is that someone locally is running an open stage at a local bar and cyber casting the event via SL. I'm not sure how all of that works but I thought that I'd check it out. I wonder if I'll have to resurrect my SL cyber alter being in order to participate or if the host of the open mic simply creates a new one for me.

I'll write to this thread again when I find out more about how it all works.

Sawwwwww ya later, Reg vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 29 May 08 - 03:21 PM

Farmsong, there are (nonMudCat) rooms at PalTalk every night, in my recent experience. You need to go to Adult/music/livemusic, and you're likely to see perhaps seven or eight rooms, only one or two of which will have any significant population. The largest room may be 20 to 35 people, and some of them will have only one or two people.

I haven't been very active for quite some time, but recently have resumed stopping in for an hour or two, maybe for a night or two in a week, and then perhaps not for another week or so. But in the most active rooms there's quite a continuing population, some of whom are very good, and of course some indifferent, and then a bunch of pure lurkers.

It's been a long time since I've seen prearranged, announced MudCat rooms at PalTalk.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: dwditty
Date: 31 May 08 - 12:52 AM

Reggie, I streamed on of my gigs into SL...audio only. Of course my avatar was on stage. I would do it more often if I had a suitable laptop. Hauling the pc, monitor, etc was a pain.

dw


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: farmsong
Date: 31 May 08 - 11:45 AM

I have had some problems with SL crashing on me. I do not think I have an adequate DSL connection. I was lucky I could even talk my wife into getting the basic (slowest) DSL connection. Although now that she is using DSL for her farming business, she sees the advantages of a faster connection.

Maybe I will revive my PT account and try it again. It certainly seemed easier to use for live playing than SL...but I will also keep trying with SL too.

Reg, does Skype still exist?

DW, what stage area do you use when you stream your gigs on SL? Have you ever tried selling an mp3 recording of your music dw on SL?

~Jeff


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Susan of DT
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 07:49 AM

Are people still using Paltalk? When? I would come at least sometimes, if I knew when. I joined Second Life, but have not been back to learn how to use it.

I just saw a new developing technology that is probably years away from being available to groups like ours:
Cisco Musion


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 09:28 AM

Telstra did a live conference with the CEO using similar technology recently.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:15 PM

how to get Second Life? I thought this is a game? Can only find second life game help.
I tried paltalk express from the browser many times, but it is impossible to join the room. It is not working and a few people complained about this but never got an answer back.
Can you please give a link for to get second life?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 08:11 PM

Google search on "second life" gives the Second Life website as first option, there is also a Sponsored Link to the site on the page, perhaps you mis-typed your enquiry.

have fun!

sandra.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:10 PM

I just found something interesting yesterday...

TinyChat.

I have no idea if it offers possibilities.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:13 PM

What is PalTalk? What does one use it for? Sorry for my ignorance

O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: Tech: Alternatives to Paltalk?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 03:40 PM

It is a 'live' forum with sound, so people can hear each other sing or talk. Did you ever use "HearMe"? Same idea, different 'feel'.


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