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what's a rant?

trevek 28 May 08 - 03:11 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 May 08 - 03:18 AM
The Villan 28 May 08 - 03:38 AM
trevek 28 May 08 - 06:48 AM
Mo the caller 28 May 08 - 07:42 AM
theleveller 28 May 08 - 07:43 AM
GUEST 28 May 08 - 07:51 AM
Mr Happy 28 May 08 - 07:54 AM
Mr Happy 28 May 08 - 07:56 AM
theleveller 28 May 08 - 08:19 AM
trevek 28 May 08 - 09:07 AM
GUEST,cStu 28 May 08 - 04:28 PM
GUEST,Wolfhound person 28 May 08 - 05:28 PM
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Jim Carroll 29 May 08 - 08:48 AM
trevek 29 May 08 - 04:10 PM
The Villan 29 May 08 - 04:11 PM
GUEST,Bob L 30 May 08 - 11:54 AM
Folkiedave 30 May 08 - 01:08 PM
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GUEST,JohnB 30 May 08 - 02:02 PM
JennieG 30 May 08 - 06:50 PM
Jim Carroll 31 May 08 - 01:36 PM
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GUEST,Murray on Saltspring 20 Jul 10 - 03:20 PM
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Subject: what's a rant?
From: trevek
Date: 28 May 08 - 03:11 AM

There are several songs and tunes called 'rants', Collier's Rant, MacPherson's Rant. Could anyone tell me what defines a 'Rant', is it the rhythym, lyric or what?

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 May 08 - 03:18 AM

Rant stepping

(If you want to cover ground, do a polka instead).


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: The Villan
Date: 28 May 08 - 03:38 AM

So, would Ranters Wharf be a place where people dance the Rant, Diane?

Or is that something else?


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: trevek
Date: 28 May 08 - 06:48 AM

Ah, thank you. So, am I correct in assuming it is something like a jig or slip-jig rythym?


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Mo the caller
Date: 28 May 08 - 07:42 AM

No, not a jig. Rant tunes can also be played as reels, polkas or hornpipes depending how you emphasise the notes.
Cheviot rant, Flowers of Edinburgh, Soldiers Joy, are examples, played not too fast so that you can get the steps in (4 dance steps instead of 2 walk steps).


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: theleveller
Date: 28 May 08 - 07:43 AM

You want a rant - try the thread about overrated performers.


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 08 - 07:51 AM

Or give negative feedback to Shrewsbury FF. If you can take it!


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 May 08 - 07:54 AM

'We'll rant and we'll roar like true British sailors......' !!


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 May 08 - 07:56 AM

Shrewsbury FF one've the greatest highlights've last year - will be there with various fiends this August too - so there!!


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: theleveller
Date: 28 May 08 - 08:19 AM

Any ghosts, devils, hellhounds and demons going with you?


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: trevek
Date: 28 May 08 - 09:07 AM

Haven't been to Shrewsbury FF in years. I think Lesley Judd was there last time I was. Heck, I even remember the carnival!


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,cStu
Date: 28 May 08 - 04:28 PM

Are the High Level Ranters still going?


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,Wolfhound person
Date: 28 May 08 - 05:28 PM

Yes, cStu. They are.

www.nspipes.co.uk/hlr

Paws


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 08 - 07:01 PM

That's good to know. I remember "Keep Your Feet Still, Geordie Hinny" as a great record when I was a kid.


*goes shopping*

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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 May 08 - 08:48 AM

For those not entirely happy with dance definition (not sure I am) Farmer and Henley's Dictionary of Slang and Colloquial English gives this selection:
Rant. 1. To talk big, high, or boast much (B. E.); to storm, rave: in this sense rant has always been literary. Whence, however, many usages more or less colloquial:— Rantan (randan, randy, rand, randy-dan, rant, ranty, rantan, or rantytan), a jollification, (2) a wenching bout, (3) the sound of a drum, and (4) a drunken frolic; also as verb (or to go on the randan, etc.), to go on a round of debauchery; ranter, (1) extra va¬gal) ts, unthrifts, lewd sparks, also of the family of love {B. E.); (2) a noisy talker, bawling singer, or ruffian ; (3) a Primitive Methodist: often extended to Dissenters generally, and spec, to a sect dating from 1822, self-registered as such in the Census returns; (4) in pi., idle, drunken bolstering ; ranting, (1) in high spirits ; amorous ; (3) extravagant; randy (or ranty), (1) a beggar, ballad singer, or tinker: espec. such as bully or menace; (2) a scold: also randy-dandy (or ranty-tanty); (3) a ramping wanton; (4) see Rantan, supra; as adj, (1) vagrant; (2) thieving, shrew¬ish ; (3) wanton ; as verb, (1) see rantan, supra.; and (2) to beat continuously, as a tinker; rantipole, (1) a whore, and (2) a romp (q.v.), a gallant hussy ; as verb, to run about wildly ; and as adj., wild, rakish, jovial (B. E.); to ride rantipole (see Ride); rantanker-ous, quarrelsome. 2. To appropriate anything in a forcible manner : ' Let's go and rant their marleys,' says one urchin to another, and straightwa}' the pair annex the possessions of a more respectable party. But it is also used to denote undue freedom with females, and springs, no doubt, from rantipole.

Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: trevek
Date: 29 May 08 - 04:10 PM

Thanks Jim, I like the idea of a fiddling session with a few gallant hussies.


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: The Villan
Date: 29 May 08 - 04:11 PM

Makes the mind boggle don't it :-)


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,Bob L
Date: 30 May 08 - 11:54 AM

In historic (18th cent) country dances, the word "rant" in the title seems to have been used to describe any lively dance. e.g. "The Marquis of Granby's Rant" which very definitely has a hop-step tune.


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 30 May 08 - 01:08 PM

The BBC either ignore traditional english music or they treat it as a joke. They do much the same with our traditional customs. They are ignoring the revival of interest in folk music much as they ignored the pop music revival of the sixties. The only folk programme they put on Radio 2 is designed to keep an audience - not promote folk music - thus it tends to be bland.

That's a rant.


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Midchuck
Date: 30 May 08 - 01:52 PM

'We'll rant and we'll roar like true British sailors......' !!

Or "like true Queensland Drovers" or "like New Bedford Whalers."

That chorus gets around!

Peter.


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 30 May 08 - 02:02 PM

The award winning Molson Canadian advertisement.
(We won't discuss the liquid they produce)

THE I AM CANADIAN RANT

Hey,
I'm not a lumberjack, or a Furtrader,
and I don't live in an igloo,
or eat blubber
or own a dogsled.
And I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada,
although I'm certain they're really, really nice.

I have a prime minister... not a president,
I speak English and French, not American
and I pronounce it About, not A-boot.

I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack,
I believe in peacekeeping, not policing,
diversity not assimilation,
and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal.

A toque is a hat,
a chesterfield is a couch,
and it IS pronounced Zed,
not Zee... ZED!!
Canada is the 2nd largest land mass,
the 1st nation of hockey,
and the best part of North America.

My name is Joe...
and...I......AM......CANADIAN!

Thank you.

Video available here

Is a rant.
JohnB


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: JennieG
Date: 30 May 08 - 06:50 PM

An expression used in Oz is "to go out on the rantan" - i.e. to have a night on the town. I can remember my mother using it, and it is mentioned in at least one song.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 31 May 08 - 01:36 PM

On the other hand 'rant' could well be what you pay the landlord in Derry
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 31 May 08 - 04:26 PM

"Money comes in 'andy for the auld rantan"

Mike Waterson's 'Three Day Millionaire'


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: geoffwright
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 03:01 PM

The Rant rhythm is One Two Three and One Two Three and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXK8tJPklR0


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,Murray on Saltspring
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 03:20 PM

In Scottish music, a rant is [in my definition] a tune of 8 bars (2 lots of 4) played abab, and then repeated to make 32 bars, e.g. - for instance, Nathaniel Gow's "Fairy Dance".


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 03:47 PM

Morpeth Rant is a lovely fiddle or whatever tune. mg


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Subject: RE: what's a rant?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 20 Jul 10 - 05:03 PM

According to my unabridged dictionary, (1934) a rant is "a gay tune, song or dance." So apparently a rant can be any length or in any time, so long as it's gay.

I like that idea.


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