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Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!

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GUEST,Tunesmith 29 May 08 - 04:21 PM
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Subject: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 29 May 08 - 04:21 PM

My brother is writing an article on the John Wayne/John Ford film "The Quiet Man". At one point in the film the Barry Fitzgerald character announces himself to Maureen O'Hara as the "matchmaker" and then says a word that my brother says sounds like "shockahorn". My brother thinks this word might be the gaelic for matchmaker. Can anyone out there help with this matter?


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: Def Shepard
Date: 29 May 08 - 04:34 PM

You mean this scene?


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 29 May 08 - 04:44 PM

Def Shepherd: Thanks for that. The words sounds like "shocklehorn" to my ears.


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 May 08 - 05:16 PM

The Irish word is "seachrán", sometimes written phonetically as "shaughraun" in English . Strictly, it means "wandering" or "astray" (sometimes in the head!).

Regards


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: Seán Báite
Date: 30 May 08 - 03:55 AM

See also the use of the anglicised word for the title of a play by Dion Boucicault - the play has a similar atmosphere to the Quiet Man, as I remember.


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: MartinRyan
Date: 30 May 08 - 04:10 AM

Thanks, Seán. It was too late at night for Boucicault's name to surface when I posted the above!

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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: GUEST,Brian Barry
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 12:44 AM

Chag-lan (shohg-lon). Tis matchmaker, indeed. Sans the whiskey.


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: GUEST,Beachcomber
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 07:44 AM

Martin is quite correct of course and I remember from my youth in rural Ireland that some people (not necessarily with a knowledge of Irish Language) would refer to a man who had spent consecutive days in the local public houses, as being "on the   Seachrán"
I'd like to read Guest Brian's definition of his "Chag Lan"
De Bhaldraithe has Basadóir = Matchmaker.


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: MartinRyan
Date: 05 Oct 12 - 05:09 PM

The original link is long since dead - but I reckon I checked it at the time. I'd be curious to know GUESTBrian Barry's word, alright.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: GUEST,lynnmiller0915
Date: 27 Sep 14 - 03:15 PM

Thank you all sooo much..I am an American Irish matchmaker..lol..and when someone said they knew what a yiddish matchmaker is, a yenta.What do they call an Irish matchmaker, I said bartender..lol..my parents owned a bar for decades..lol


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 27 Sep 14 - 03:50 PM

Maybe you should visit Lisdoonvarna and have a chat with Willie Daly.


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Subject: RE: Quiet Man - gaelic word? Help!
From: Felipa
Date: 27 Sep 14 - 05:57 PM

could they have used a Yiddish word? http://yiddishwordoftheweek.tumblr.com/post/902992899/shadkhnen


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