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BS: All things English

Phil Edwards 18 Jun 08 - 05:41 AM
Paul Burke 18 Jun 08 - 05:44 AM
WalkaboutsVerse 18 Jun 08 - 06:21 AM
Houston_Diamond 18 Jun 08 - 06:25 AM
bobad 18 Jun 08 - 06:57 AM
van lingle 18 Jun 08 - 07:12 AM
GUEST,Volgadon 18 Jun 08 - 07:34 AM
George Papavgeris 18 Jun 08 - 07:34 AM
TheSnail 18 Jun 08 - 07:58 AM
bobad 18 Jun 08 - 08:03 AM
Rapparee 18 Jun 08 - 08:17 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 18 Jun 08 - 08:23 AM
TheSnail 18 Jun 08 - 08:43 AM
Micca 18 Jun 08 - 08:57 AM
Houston_Diamond 18 Jun 08 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,Volgadon 18 Jun 08 - 09:23 AM
alanabit 18 Jun 08 - 10:16 AM
Dave Hanson 18 Jun 08 - 10:31 AM
GUEST,Phil at work 18 Jun 08 - 10:39 AM
Houston_Diamond 18 Jun 08 - 10:46 AM
Georgiansilver 18 Jun 08 - 10:59 AM
TheSnail 18 Jun 08 - 11:09 AM
Houston_Diamond 18 Jun 08 - 11:10 AM
lady penelope 18 Jun 08 - 11:12 AM
Ruth Archer 18 Jun 08 - 11:26 AM
GUEST,leeneia 18 Jun 08 - 11:58 AM
Def Shepard 18 Jun 08 - 12:28 PM
Def Shepard 18 Jun 08 - 12:32 PM
Def Shepard 18 Jun 08 - 01:46 PM
Phil Edwards 18 Jun 08 - 02:03 PM
Def Shepard 18 Jun 08 - 02:09 PM
fat B****rd 19 Jun 08 - 11:06 AM
GUEST,Ewan Spawned a Monster 19 Jun 08 - 12:50 PM
Les in Chorlton 19 Jun 08 - 01:57 PM
Phil Edwards 19 Jun 08 - 02:18 PM
Def Shepard 19 Jun 08 - 02:20 PM
Rumncoke 19 Jun 08 - 05:51 PM
GUEST,Soona 20 Jun 08 - 05:38 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Jun 08 - 05:44 AM
Phil Edwards 20 Jun 08 - 05:49 AM
Phil Edwards 20 Jun 08 - 05:50 AM
Big Al Whittle 20 Jun 08 - 05:51 AM
Backwoodsman 20 Jun 08 - 05:57 AM
Backwoodsman 20 Jun 08 - 05:58 AM
GUEST,Hon. Sec. 20 Jun 08 - 01:17 PM
Houston_Diamond 20 Jun 08 - 01:32 PM
gnu 20 Jun 08 - 01:46 PM
Def Shepard 20 Jun 08 - 01:51 PM
gnu 20 Jun 08 - 01:57 PM
Def Shepard 20 Jun 08 - 02:00 PM
gnu 20 Jun 08 - 02:04 PM
Bonzo3legs 21 Jun 08 - 02:02 PM
Les in Chorlton 21 Jun 08 - 02:08 PM
Def Shepard 21 Jun 08 - 03:02 PM
Les in Chorlton 21 Jun 08 - 03:23 PM
Def Shepard 21 Jun 08 - 03:35 PM
gnu 21 Jun 08 - 03:41 PM
McGrath of Harlow 21 Jun 08 - 06:15 PM
Houston_Diamond 21 Jun 08 - 08:52 PM
GUEST,Jonny Sunshine 23 Jun 08 - 08:07 AM
Houston_Diamond 23 Jun 08 - 11:36 AM
Dave Hanson 24 Jun 08 - 01:55 AM
Big Al Whittle 24 Jun 08 - 04:52 AM
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Subject: BS: All things English
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 05:41 AM

Why don't we celebrate all things English?

The French, the Welsh, even the Cornish contribution to popular culture is widely recognised, even celebrated. The English contribution has been overlooked for too long!

Follyfoot! Are you being served? Variety Bandbox! Aldershot Town FC! Let's celebrate all things English!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Paul Burke
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 05:44 AM

I hated English, especially double English.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 06:21 AM

I, for one, Phil, keep fit with lawn tennis, grow hedera helix/English ivy in my flat, love a stottie stuffed with chips, and use a tenor recorder/English flute to introduce my selection of English folk songs and hymns...


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 06:25 AM

Most English things are an amalgamation of other cultures... but, I am glad to celebrate the probable spanish origin of morris dancing, the probable german origin of accordions, the probable latin origin of roast pork or chicken ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 06:57 AM

I enjoy a gin and tonic on a summer afternoon and I'm not even bloody English.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: van lingle
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 07:12 AM

I too enjoy the occasional g&t in the summer (although these days I substitute vodka), apply English to cueballs when necessary and have been known to scarf down an English muffin from time to time.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 07:34 AM

Does reading PG Wodehouse, Evelyn Waugh, Saki and Oscar Wilde make me English?
Does enjoying Flanders & Swan and Noel Coward make me English?
Does growing up on British comedies make me English?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 07:34 AM

When in Australia, I always ask for Hot English on my snags.
And in the the Netherlands, the kids used to love going to the sweetshop and asking for "Engelse drop" (liquorice allsorts to the rest of us). But as a kid in Greece I would have nutted anyone that had accused me of the "English habit".


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: TheSnail
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 07:58 AM

I would have nutted anyone that had accused me of the "English habit".

George... Don't do that.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: bobad
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 08:03 AM

"English habit" - would that be what the English refer to as "Greek love"?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 08:17 AM

Oscar Wilde was Irish.

I celebrate the Cherry Valley Massacre and Oliver Cromwell.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 08:23 AM

The English must be the most sex-obsessed people on the planet. Why else would they give large swaths of their country names like Essex, Sussex, Wessex and Middlesex? Is there an Oralsex someplace?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: TheSnail
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 08:43 AM

Is there an Oralsex someplace?

It's up the Bristol Channel.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Micca
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 08:57 AM

Snail, I thought the Bristol channel lead to Tittysex... I'll get my coat!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 09:08 AM

"Does growing up on British comedies make me English?"

It depends on how many innuendos there are lol

It was the saxons that were obsessed with sex, us poor English folk just embraced it with open... ahem..

can you grab mine while you're at the coat rack Micca?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 09:23 AM

Well, Are You Being Served was broadcast on prime time back when there was only one TV channel in Israel, I think that one's hard to beat when it comes to innuendoes.....

"Oscar Wilde was Irish."
And H. H. Munro was Scottish, you forgot that, Rapaire.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: alanabit
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 10:16 AM

I've known a Malcolm MacDonald to play football against Scotland, Emyln Hughes against Wales and Kevin Keegan against Ireland - all for England. Of course, the centre half Mike England played for Wales... Go figure that one out!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 10:31 AM

Oralsex is an American phenomenon, it's just talking about it, not doing it.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Phil at work
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 10:39 AM

I'm wasted here, wasted I tell you.

Blue clickies, people...


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 10:46 AM

Dunno why but all I can think of now is the bit in Fawlty Towers in the episode with the Builders where Manuel is talking to the O'Reilly builders, Manuel says something along the lines of "You are orally men?", in which the men reply "you tryna be funny?". lol


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 10:59 AM

All things English...like corner shops...synagogues......mosques.....pizzerias....chinese restaurants....indian restaurants....italian restaurants.......NHS Doctors........No actually.....fish and chips......Devonshire cream... scones...treacle tart.....60's pop music.....psuedo democracy... farm subsidies...high priced fuel....and of course great folk music.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: TheSnail
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 11:09 AM

I overheard two secretaries talking in the office about holidaying in Turkey. One had been and the other was planning to go but her boyfriend was a bit worried about having to eat foreign food. "Oh no," replied the other, "you can get English food. We had pizza and pasta."


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 11:10 AM

There I was thinking of James Bond... Carry on films... benny hill... and suddenly nostalgia wore off with the realisation that Georgiansilver was right and the things I was thinking of only existed in films!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: lady penelope
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 11:12 AM

You mean celebrate being the true mongrels we really are? I'm up for it, so long as every one agrees to form a proper queue.... *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 11:26 AM

George's post reminded me of this poem:

The Nation, by Roy Fisher


The national day
had dawned. Everywhere
the national tree was opening its blossoms
to the sun's first rays, and from all quarters
young and old in national costume
were making their way to the original National
Building, where the national standard already
fluttered against the sky. Some breakfasted
on the national dish as they walked, frequently
pausing to greet acquaintances with a heartfelt
exchange of the national gesture. Many
were leading the national animal; others carried it
in their arms. The national bird
flew overhead; and on every side
could be heard the keen strains
of the national anthem, played on
the national instrument.

Where enough were gathered together,
national feeling ran high, and concerted cries of
'Death tothe national foe!' were raised.
The national weapon was brandished. Though
festivities were constrained by the size of
the national debt, the national sport was
vigorously played all day
and the national drink drunk.
And from midday till late in the evening
there arose continually from the rear
of the national prison the sounds of the national
method of execution, dealing out rapid
justice to those who had given way
-on this day of all days -
to the national vice.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 11:58 AM

I like the poem, Ruth.

For those of you who don't do the research, the first post was a reference to an actor named Arthur English.

Phil, at first I thought F.C. stood for Folk Club. I was hoping for a few good songs out of all this. Alas!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 12:28 PM

From one of my gardening books.

Hedera helix (species name from Ancient Greek "twist, turn"), also called Ivy, Common Ivy, or English Ivy is a species of ivy native to most of Europe, along the west coast of South America, southwest Asia and Australia.

I have no need to elaborate I don't think


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 12:32 PM

Gawd, if you absolutely MUST indulge!!

Whirligig Television/Radio Days


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 01:46 PM

"you can get English food. We had pizza and pasta."
well that makes sense. sort of :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 02:03 PM

Thanks, DS. This is what I mean by English!

Also Wall, Sellers, Howerd and of course Modley, but there was English in there too. Play the music! Open the cage!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 18 Jun 08 - 02:09 PM

Phil I have to admit I do go to the Whirligig site and listen to the theme from Listen With Mother (The Dolly Suite)


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: fat B****rd
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 11:06 AM

Faure's A Jolly Good Fellow !


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Ewan Spawned a Monster
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 12:50 PM

Will this do, Phil?

Or the man who was Private Widdle?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 01:57 PM

I guess Phil is flying kites - and a fine and wonderful way to spend time it is.

I think I am probably in favour of celebrating something or other that can have old songs and tunes and some Morris Dancing in it. I am not sure what celebrating -ishness really means. The Irish, and quite a lot of the rest of us, celebrate St Patrick's Day with Irish music and drink. Dare I mention that Irish Culture is quite a bit more than this? The bit we celebrate isn't even a decent cross section of Ireland's musical heritage.

Without going into any detail, and I may regret this, some of the -ishness's that are celebrated carry a fair amount of 19C nonsense. Whilst we are dogged by "Merrie England" other bits of this Islands are similarly dogged with national costumes and practices that have almost no historical provenance.

Ok that's me starter for 10

Les
The Retirement Home, Chorlton


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 02:18 PM

My Texan Celtic musician friend told me that over there a new bodhran isn't considered playable until it's been 'seasoned', by pouring a pint of Guinness over the skin. (And letting it dry, presumably.) It's the tradition, y'know...

My initial post was pure silliness, as you'll see if you follow the blue clickies. Apologies for leading so many Mudcatters astray.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 02:20 PM

No more silly than anything WAV posts, so for me there was no real difference


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Rumncoke
Date: 19 Jun 08 - 05:51 PM

The odd thing - as there is not much really that you can define about being English, is that you get someone arriving here, along with his little old mum who doesn't speak a word of the language, wife and a couple of kids, and in thirty years he is a grandad with the youngsters not interested in anything but the local football team, the local nightlife, growing up and getting a flat and a car and wearing the latest fashion off the market.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Soona
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:38 AM

A few things English are taking the interest of the police in New Zealand police right now investigating a rape by members of the England rugby team touring the country, players were refusing to be interviewed about the matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:44 AM

it could be worse, you could be...........a duck!?

It was a big relief to me when we stopped singing in unison and playing citterns.

thank heavens for the Martin family and the Beach Boys.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:49 AM

OK, this joke is now dead. Here it is again:

Why don't we celebrate all things to do with Arthur English?

The contribution to popular culture made by Dawn French, Irvine Welsh, even Joe Cornish is widely recognised, even celebrated. Arthur English's contribution has been overlooked for too long!

Follyfoot! Are you being served? Variety Bandbox! Aldershot Town FC! Let's celebrate all things Arthur English!

(It's a sort of play on words, you see.)


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:50 AM

Oops - forgot my coat. Got it.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:51 AM

Open the cage.......


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:57 AM

"A few things English are taking the interest of the police in New Zealand police right now investigating a rape by members of the England rugby team touring the country, players were refusing to be interviewed about the matter."

Correction - It's an ALLEGED rape/sexual assault. Oh, and the woman making the allegation hasn't actually made an official complaint.

Innocent until proven guilty - that's something fundamental to English law (and other nations, whose legal systems are based on the English model, of course).


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 05:58 AM

And the unofficially accused persons are acting completely within their rights according to New Zealand law.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Hon. Sec.
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 01:17 PM

"it could be worse, you could be...........a duck!?"

an English duck, of course?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 01:32 PM

I want to celebrate Dangermouse.

Dangermouse is truly English and sounds just like David Jason... he still saves the world from baron greenback from his headquarters at the postbox outside Sherlock Holmes's house (who coincidentally still solves crime thankfully)!!!:D


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 01:46 PM

Odd.... there was a guest post after rumncoke's post that has vanished... not even a "deleted because I didn't like it". I know I was a bit groogy at 3 or 4 AM, but I know I saw it.

Sommat to do about... hmmm... better not say.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 01:51 PM

>Sommat to do about... hmmm... better not say.<

maybe that's why is was probably deleted....? :-D
those dreaded deletion elves....


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 01:57 PM

Well... I thought the post was hilarious. I had a great laugh over it. Apparently, some humour is not permitted.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 02:00 PM

gnu...shhhh...that might get deleted :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jun 08 - 02:04 PM

Well, I just hope the deleter PM's me and explains why s/he felt that was required. Unless it was one a them anonymous guest posts what ain't allowed anymore???? Sorry... I haven't read up on the policy lately. Maybe I am way off base.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 02:02 PM

We're all C of E, and all victory V!!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 02:08 PM

Uncle Joe's mint balls keep you all a-glow!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 03:02 PM

"Murray Mints, Murray Mints, the too-good-to-hurry mints. Why make haste? When you can taste the hint of mint in Murray Mints"

Alright, I was just eight years old, but for some reason I remember this silly ad. :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 03:23 PM

Give 'em to yer Granny and watch the bugger go


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Def Shepard
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 03:35 PM

Are you old enough to remember these? :-D
Go To Work On An Egg

More Advertisments


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 03:41 PM

Guess not? Perhaps if I repeated that post I might get an answer? C,mon... PM me and tell me why that was so bad it had to be deleted. ????


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 06:15 PM

Pizza and pasta are still a little bit foreign. Real English food means Curry.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 21 Jun 08 - 08:52 PM

DS, I was on youtube on Friday and scared the life out of myself by watching the public information films in the 70's. I forgot how horrific they made them.

I was going to post them but I thought probably not a great idea... nothing worse than seeing that advert where the kid goes to get his frizbee back from an electricity pylon!!!

I remember thinking, "dont do it" even from 4 years old!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine
Date: 23 Jun 08 - 08:07 AM

does anyone else remember the one about the boy who still keeps his football boots, even after his walk on the railway line?


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Houston_Diamond
Date: 23 Jun 08 - 11:36 AM

I like the one where they warn kids about the danger of water spots by using Death in the background and Donald Pleasence as the voice of death's monologue. Absolutely mad, lets scare the wits out of children till they're too scared to leave the house!!! ;) Brilliant (If they would only make one to get them to listen to their parents and teachers!)


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 01:55 AM

Remeber, no man is an island, except Alf Wight and Brian Man.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 04:52 AM

I think the racial memory of being skint for decades at a time is a bit to do with being English.

I tend to think you should know about it. Even if your family were lucky enough to have been quite well off. You should know that a lot of people had a tough time for a long time, and that's how our country was - probably for centuries. Til the war really.


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Subject: RE: BS: All things English
From: ard mhacha
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 06:51 AM

Backwoodsman, Wrong quote, it should read, Innocent until proven Irish.


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