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Norster 22 Jun 08 - 06:40 AM
greg stephens 22 Jun 08 - 03:31 PM
Pete_Standing 22 Jun 08 - 06:35 PM
Herga Kitty 23 Jun 08 - 02:53 AM
Pete_Standing 23 Jun 08 - 06:19 AM
yrlancslad 24 Jun 08 - 12:40 AM
GUEST,guest - Dave in Michigan 27 Mar 13 - 04:47 PM
MGM·Lion 27 Mar 13 - 05:01 PM
GUEST,Phil Quarterman 16 Oct 13 - 10:44 PM
Nigel Parsons 17 Oct 13 - 03:54 AM
Herga Kitty 17 Oct 13 - 03:59 AM
GUEST,Johnmc 17 Oct 13 - 06:22 AM
greg stephens 17 Oct 13 - 06:37 AM
greg stephens 17 Oct 13 - 06:37 AM
McGrath of Harlow 17 Oct 13 - 06:46 AM
Herga Kitty 17 Oct 13 - 08:49 AM
MGM·Lion 17 Oct 13 - 08:57 AM
GUEST,Phil Quarterman 17 Oct 13 - 09:22 PM
MikeofNorthumbria 19 Oct 13 - 01:19 PM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 19 Oct 13 - 01:47 PM
Herga Kitty 19 Oct 13 - 02:23 PM
greg stephens 19 Oct 13 - 03:15 PM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Oct 13 - 06:25 PM
Herga Kitty 20 Oct 13 - 07:17 AM
GUEST,Peter Lobbenberg 22 Oct 13 - 03:30 AM
GUEST,Tony Davis 25 Oct 13 - 06:57 AM
GUEST,David Crosbie 18 Jul 17 - 09:27 PM
GUEST,David Crosbie 18 Jul 17 - 09:45 PM
Herga Kitty 19 Jul 17 - 01:11 AM
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GUEST,David Crosbie 19 Jul 17 - 12:47 PM
MikeofNorthumbria 20 Jul 17 - 06:39 AM
Richard Mellish 20 Jul 17 - 04:57 PM
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Subject: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: Norster
Date: 22 Jun 08 - 06:40 AM

Hi All,

I am new to this forum, and hope therefore not to be messing up from the off, but here goes. I am a (mature) postgraduate student at the University of Bristol, on their British Music MA, an am writing a disseration on the post-war folk revival in Britain, with a case-study based on Oxford. Oxford was chosen in part because my parents were both there, and my father, John Nourse, was president of the Cecil Sharp Club twice (early 1950s), the musician for the OUMM, and sometimes Ancient Man too.

Until recently I had been unaware of the Heritage Society at Oxford, but my brief researches so far suggest that it could be a very rich source of information for my dissertation, and Mudcat was suggested as a possible way of contacting ex-Heritage people. (There was a thread here in 2003 for a Heritage reunion at Sidmouth that year that I have seen).

So far I have made brief direct contact with a couple of ex-Heritage people, and have gone through Malcolm Taylor's small archive at C Sharp House. The question is, are there people here who were members, or Presidents, who would be willing to help with personal accounts, possibly a questionaire? And, does anyone have any archive material, particularly copies of the Club's magazine, which appears to have been both a cyclostyled A4-ish 'Heritage', and also a sub-A5 'Heritage Broadsheet'. Given that Heritage appears to have been set up in 1956, my proposed study-period is 1956-69.

Any suggestions as to were else to look, who to contact, and information on other 1950s and 60s folk, blues, even skiffle clubs in Oxford, or nearby, would be most helpful too.

Many thanks in advance,
Norster (Nick)


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From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Jun 08 - 03:31 PM

I was a regular from 1962-1966,and involved in the running of it for most of that time in various capacities. I was president in 64 I think, or possibly 65. I have various copies of the society magazine(the small one and the large one), plus various membership cards. I also made various recordings at the club, c 1964. Included in those recordings are the Mudcatters McGrath from Harlow and Mike of Northumbria( or perhaps the "of" and "from" need transposing). Not to mention other luminaries such as Peta Webb, Martin Cummins, Tony Rose, Robert Graves etc etc.
For magazines try Mike of(from) Northumbria, he edited the thing initially. I'll bet he's got all the back numbers!
Nick, if you would like to correspond, suggest you PM me.


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From: Pete_Standing
Date: 22 Jun 08 - 06:35 PM

June Tabor was prominent in university folk life.

The singer Ian Giles knows lots about the relatively recent (ie last few decades) folk past. Why don't you come up to Oxford for a weekend? I suggest the Nancy Kerr James Fagan gig at the Oxford FC, 11th July and for the inevitable sessions later that night and on the Sunday night at the Half Moon. You will get the chance to talk to many people active in the scene now and in the past.


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 23 Jun 08 - 02:53 AM

Nick - I've e-mailed you with a couple more suggestions. For Mike Sutton, try PMing MikeofNorthumbria.

You might find Mick Henry if you go to the Oxford club and/or Half Moon session (he ran an Irish club in the Gardeners Arms in Plantation Road, that Peta Webb used to sing at).

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: Pete_Standing
Date: 23 Jun 08 - 06:19 AM

Yep. Mick Henry is still about - a fine singer and raconteur too.


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: yrlancslad
Date: 24 Jun 08 - 12:40 AM

Hi I was a member of Heritage in the early sixties along with Louis Killen,Peta Webb,June Tabor, Val Watmough(nee Holmes)who still lives in Oxford,Dave Crosby, Bob and Carol Pegg etc and of course Greg above.
Val particularly would be a great source as she was not a student but lived and worked in Oxford from about 1960 until the present and was very invilved for many of those years. e-mail me personally if you would like her e-mail address


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From: GUEST,guest - Dave in Michigan
Date: 27 Mar 13 - 04:47 PM

Val moved back to Oxford from Littlemore?


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From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Mar 13 - 05:01 PM

A distinguished roll-call. The late Rory McEwen, Stan Bootle [aka on the Scene as Stan Kelly] & I were at Cambridge about the same time. We had the St Lawrence Society. I never made out why it was called that, now I come to think of it! Any other Catters remember that?

~Michael~


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From: GUEST,Phil Quarterman
Date: 16 Oct 13 - 10:44 PM

I was a member from 1966 to 1969. I vividly remember June Tabor (then sporting the long black leather boots and leather mini skirt together with long black hair and her stunning looks) playing darts with the lads, pint in hand. I struggle to recall the name of the pub ( was it the Baker's Arms?) but it was in Jericho. We grouped up to an upper meeting room to gather round a warm fire as a string band played old dance tunes. Then it was a round robin as we all took turns singing. June's voice made the hair stand up on the back on my neck. I often told myself one day she would have a recording career she was obviously so outstanding. It took some years before that happened.

Anyway, a reminiscence. I also struggle to remember other names but one leader's name may have been Mike Clark. He was from the Northeast, perhaps Newcastle. Alan Rae was from my college and sang his own humorous songs to his guitar.

I remember it with great affection. A high point in my sojourn at Oxford. I should add that I am also an Oxford native, and now since 1974 and expatriate in the US. I visit my family frequently.

Phil Quarterman


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From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 03:54 AM

From: MtheGM - PM
Date: 27 Mar 13 - 05:01 PM

A distinguished roll-call. The late Rory McEwen, Stan Bootle [aka on the Scene as Stan Kelly] & I were at Cambridge about the same time. We had the St Lawrence Society. I never made out why it was called that, now I come to think of it! Any other Catters remember that?


Possibly the name came from the area/meeting place? Cambridge has a Roman Catholic Parish/Church/School of that name.
Or, more suited to folkies, maybe thinking of a US/Canada road, and you liked the idea of having a 'Freeway' about you :)

Cheers
Nigel


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 03:59 AM

I remember Alan Rae, also Jim Sharpe, who went on to become Professor of Modern History at York University. I undertand that Val Watmough has now sadly passed away. Carolyn Jackson-Houlston, who was a member of Heritage during my time there (1970-73), went on to teach at Oxford Brookes and is still involved in the Oxford folk club.

Kitty


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From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 06:22 AM

For the uninitiated, can someone tell us about the Ancient Man referred to in the original
Post ?


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: greg stephens
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 06:37 AM

The Ancient Men were(are) a Morris side, possibly composed of Oxford graduates?


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: greg stephens
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 06:37 AM

The Ancient Men were(are) a Morris side, possibly composed of Oxford graduates?


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 06:46 AM

The name stays out of reach - but I could probably take you there if we were on the street.

I was there 1961 to 64. Among current Mudcatters, aside from greg stephens, Mike of Northumbria might be able to remember better than me. Morris dancing might keep the brain cells in better shape. Though possibly not.


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 08:49 AM

Phil Q - yes, it was the Baker's Arms, Cardigan Street (in my time at least) - since demolished to make way for the gentrification of Jericho.

IIRC,the Ancient Men was/ is the name for the touring side of Oxford University Morris Men. They still tour in the summer vacation and dance on May morning, though I think they overlap somewhat now with Oxford City.

Kitty


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From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 08:57 AM

Nigel ~~ Thanks for suggestions re name of St Lawrence; but it used to meet pretty well entirely in colleges as I recollect - mainly Trinity, I think, Rory's college; tho perhaps sometimes Downing, where both Stan & Joe Miller [another early member] were. (I was at Christ's myself.)

~M~


Apologies to all you Oxonians for a bit of Cantab intrusion -- tho hope you feel suitably honoured, at that!☺☺☺


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From: GUEST,Phil Quarterman
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 09:22 PM

Thanks Herga:

Now that explains why I could find it on my recent visit to Oxford. Sounds like we didn't quite overlap in time. I was in Newcastle at grad school in 1970.

A question for everyone: is the Heritage now defunct, or has it morphed into something else?

Phil Q


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 01:19 PM

Greetings to one and all,

When this thread was launched in 2008, I sent Nick (its instigator) a few notes, containing all the information I could remember concerning Oxford University's Heritage Society during my time there in the 1960s.

Since then, that document has grown a bit, thanks to feedback from other former members of Heritage. Also added to it are a few afterthoughts of mine, showing how further encounters with traditional and contemporary folk music – in London, and on Tyneside – modified some of the ideas acquired during my earlier years in Oxford.

I have no plans to publish this memoir, but if any ex-members of Heritage (or any other interested parties) would like to have an electronic copy of it, I'd be happy to email them one.

Wassail!

Mike Sutton


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 01:47 PM

Mike .. I'd be interested in a copy please.... I think you know how to contact me.
Thanks
Derek


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 02:23 PM

Hi Mike - me too please!   

Kitty

PS chuffed to see that McGrath is still writing to the Guardian about issues of the day....


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 03:15 PM

Mike of N: me too please, email me a copy there's a dear.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 06:25 PM

Me too, naturally.

And it'd be interesting to hear an answer to Phil Quaterman's question about the subsequent history.


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 07:17 AM

It seems that the OUMM are still practising with Oxford City and dancing out - this year's dancing calendar here . According to the Oxford City site they still practise in Jericho, at St Barnabas' school. Dick Wolff's entry on the website for Three Pressed Men, here , mentions that he was a President of the late lamented Heritage Society, and I suspect it disappeared 20 or more years ago. I don't know if it survived the demolition of the Baker's Arms.

Kitty


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From: GUEST,Peter Lobbenberg
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 03:30 AM

I joined the Heritage Society during my time at Oxford 1958-1961 and kept coming back, on and off, for some years afterwards. The happiest of memories.

I also danced 1963-66 with the Ancient Men, who as Herga Kitty says were the touring side of OUMM. I was told that the name originated something like this. After performing, some men, perhaps not all in the first flush of youth, were somewhat bowed and clutching their aching backs, and a spectator commented: "Why, they look like ancient men".

There is a memo by the late Roy Judge on the OUMM website at www.yetaco.plus.com/am39/oummhist.pdf‎ .

Mike of N - thanks so much, I'll email you.


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From: GUEST,Tony Davis
Date: 25 Oct 13 - 06:57 AM

This is incredible - I stumbled on this site when searching for the name of Cliff Henty, who is mentioned in another Heritage Society thread.

I was a member of the Heritage Society from 1958 to 1960. I was in fact elected President for Michaelmas term 1960, but unfortunately my University career came to an abrupt end before I took office - I spent too much time playing trumpet, guitar and 5-string banjo instead of writing essays.

Mike of Northumbria, I'd love a copy of your memoir - my email address is tony/tony-davis.co.uk, with the usual sign in place of the /, of course.

Tony Davis


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From: GUEST,David Crosbie
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 09:27 PM

I was active in Heritage from 1963 to 1967. Leading lights already there included Greg Stephens, Mike Sutton, Val Watmough (as she became) and Tony Rose. Dave Webb was a rising presence, and a year or so later Peta came along and they eventually married. June Tabor came along later, at the same time as Jim Sharpe and Marin Clarke.

Louis Killen was a favourite guest, but I don't think he was ever a resident of Oxford. Bob and Carole Pegg were definitely not members. They were active in my home town, Nottingham, and then in Leeds.

Like many folk clubs of the day, Heritage attracted a broad range of performers. Some were of the new political school in the heyday of CND. Some were much more geared to traditional song, and there was occasional friction. One member straddled the divide in that he sang traditional songs extremely well while being a hard-left shop steward at Cowley. The year before, a talented guitarist from the US called Dave Laibman had set a high benchmark which instrumentalists were still trying to emulate.

Unlike most folk clubs of the day, there was huge emphasis on getting as many singers as possible to perform. So we weren't all great, but the best were very good indeed. But what really set Heritage apart was the chorus. The audience would listen with great attention and pick up choruses to new songs with the greatest ease.

In my time there, the CND element became less prominent and regular singers tended to become specialised. There was a flourishing bluegrass group for a while and several of us came under the influence of Reg Hall and his views on English traditional music.

One of my roles in Heritage (Treasurer, I think) put me in possession of archives which pointed to an early important role in the early days of the Revival, when people who went on to be folk stars would come for three guineas plus expenses. I wish I could remember all the names.

I was involved in producing the Heritage magazines. I think I could dig out copies if you're still looking.

The Ancient Men were a touring side, an extension of Oxford University Morris men. They were composed mostly of current members of OUMM, supplemented by former members. Occasional outsiders included Julian Pilling, who was active in Lancashire Morris and Roy Dommet who plunged himself in deep Morris scholarship when he couldn't be a rocket scientist. I remember only one of two who also danced for Oxford City Morris Men.

The story we were told was that the name originated in the distant past when the newly formed OUMM shared a tour with the Cambridge University Morris Men. The latter, it's said, were hearty early risers, and would beat at the door of the Oxford tent shouting "Get up you ancient men". When I was an ancient man, we would camp in one location and travel to nearby villages and towns in cars. Up to a few years previously, the practice had been to cycle between stands.


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From: GUEST,David Crosbie
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 09:45 PM

Mike of Northumbria.

I've just twigged who you are. I'd love to see your memoir stuff, and to catch up.

davidcrosbiemail@gmail.com


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Jul 17 - 01:11 AM

Lou Killen was at college in Oxford but not one of the University colleges (Ruskin, I think). So sang at Heritage sometimes but wasn't eligible to be an officer.

Kitty


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From: GUEST,Herga Kitty
Date: 19 Jul 17 - 12:45 PM

Aha! That would explain it. By 1963, Lou was already well known generally in the folk world. But I was not aware of anyone at Oxford describing him as ex-Heritage. I'm sure that in his day he sang all the time and no less than any 'officer'. I realise now who 'yrlancslad' is. He studied at Ruskin and was a Heritage stalwart in my time.

Being an 'officer' involved no more than writing letters and signing cheques. It briefly got me in trouble with the Proctors (University Police) because I couldn't supply them with a constitution. A back-of-an-envelope response was quickly accepted. They were really only concerned that there should be a Senior Member nominally supervising the finance. There was nothing in the constitution to say that the President, Secretary and Treasurer should be members of the University. So in before and after the writing of the constitution Lou Killen could have been an 'officer'. Perhaps he was. The Proctors didn't even mind that the Heritage Committee was not elected but co-opted.


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From: GUEST,David Crosbie
Date: 19 Jul 17 - 12:47 PM

Sorry! That post was FROM me (David Crosbie) TO Herga Kitty.


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From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 20 Jul 17 - 06:39 AM

Hi All,

Now I've got my cookie back, and can receive personal messages again,
I'd like to invite any 'catters who are former members of Heritage to get in touch, and pass on any information, reminiscences, addresses, etc which could be helpful in compiling a (more or less) official history of the society.

A few years ago I produced a 'work in progress' memoir, which has been updated occasionally since then as further information has come in, but it's still full of gaps. Any further help would be very welcome. And if anyone would like a copy of the current version, let me have your home email, and I'll send the current version to you as an attachment.

Re Lou Killen: he was resident in Oxford and active in Heritage in the late 1950s, but had returned to Tyneside by the time I joined in October 1960. He had been a student at the Catholic Workers' College (which, like Ruskin College, helped working folk who had left school early get the qualifications needed for university entrance). After becoming a professional singer, Lou performed as a guest at Heritage on several occasions.

Re Heritage Constitution: In my time, non-members of the university were allowed to join the club, but they could not hold any offices. I believe the university officials were afraid that student societies would be infiltrated by politically motivated outsiders (in particular, Communists - either Stalinist or Trotskyist) who might lead the innocent undergraduates astray. Ah, the happy days of Cold War paranoia! So different from our own tranquil and civilized times!

Wassail!


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From: Richard Mellish
Date: 20 Jul 17 - 04:57 PM

I somehow missed seeing this thread in the previous flurries of activity in 2008 and 2013, so I'm glad to have found it now. I was a regular attender from 1965 to 1968 and occasionally for another year or so when I was doing a PhD at Reading and visiting friends in Oxford. A year or two ago I tried to find the Baker's Arms on Google streetview and wondered what had happened to it: now I know.

Dunno that there's much I can add about people and goings on. I was pleased to run into Dave Crosbie at Edinburgh University Folk Song Society one evening some time in the 70s. I know (Herga) Kitty very well, but we didn't overlap at Oxford and I met her at the Herga.

Last Christmas Hugh Miller emailed Kitty and others with a link to his pictures from the 60s. He said "It's fine with me for you to pass this email, or the web address, on to anyone else you think might be interested" so Kitty passed it to me and I in turn now post it here.

Over the last year or two I've been getting a lot of my 35 mm slides digitised, including some from the Heritage: I'll put some on my (rudimentary) website and post a link here idc.

I also have tape recordings, the earlier ones copied from a friend, the later ones my own. I'll consider whether any of those are worth making public.


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From: Richard Mellish
Date: 20 Jul 17 - 05:12 PM

PS: I've started looking to see which pics might be worth putting up. Maybe some of Morris (and other) dancers one May Morning?

And several of June: form you own conclusions about why I took pictures of her.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jul 17 - 05:22 PM

You could probably blackmail a few people with those, Richard.

Good to be reminded of those times. Looking at those pictures from Hugh Miller... were we ever that young?

I was 1961 to 1964.


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From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 21 Jul 17 - 08:39 AM

Richard,

Many thanks for posting the links to Hugh Miller's pictures. They brought back memories of many uproarious nights at the Bakers Arms. I look forward to seeing yours when you make them available.

If you'd like a copy of my Heritage history notes, PM me with your home email, and I'll send it to you as an attachment.

Wassail!


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From: Richard Mellish
Date: 22 Jul 17 - 12:24 PM

OK ex-Heritage bods: a few of my pics can now be seen here.


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 22 Jul 17 - 03:54 PM

Thanks for those Richard - the pictures pre-date my arrival in Oxford so there aren't many people I recognise, apart, obviously, from June. But I think I've spotted Cat, and possibly JD, in one photo - and is that Mac in OUMM kit with the Watmoughs?

Kitty


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From: Richard Mellish
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 06:54 AM

> is that Mac in OUMM kit with the Watmoughs?

Probably, but you know him better than I do.


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From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:09 AM

Yes, that's Mac, and he and this year's crop of Ancient Men are currently sat in the Crystal Palace (Fullers!) pub in Bath, recovering from a thorough soaking on their North Somerset tour. Mac


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From: GUEST,John Williams
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 11:37 PM

I attended Heritage Society meetings at the Baker's Arms from 1964 -67 and I well remember Dave Crosby and most of those he mentioned, though they won't remember me because I don't think I ever ventured to sing, except in chorus: the White Cockade was a favorite that was sung at least once a term.

There was a guy from Hull who liked to sing seafaring songs, I think that must have been Jim Sharpe. He had a very impish grin and sung murder ballads with particular relish. His rendition of one seafaring example was memorable, ending with the lines, "She ripped him, she stripped him, she tore him in three, because he had murdered her baby and she." Into the silence that followed he would interject a chuckle and repeat the title: "The Ghost Ship!"

Charlie Hewlett was the guitarist in the bluegrass band that David mentioned. The others were a banjo player and a mandolin player, but their names elude me for the moment. I sure some of you remember their version of "Blue Moon of Kentucky".

On one occasion Robert Graves attended our meeting. He did not perform though, of course, he was regarded with hushed reverence and respect.

I have photos of all my contemporary members taken at a gathering in the back garden of one of us at Southmoor Road. I printed many copies for people at the time some of whom suspected me of trying to make a profit, though I am certain I did no more than recover my cost, if that.

I can be contacted at jgw@email.arizona.edu and might be persuaded to send copies of some photos to those who remember me.

John Williams
Ch. Ch. 1964


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From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 06:24 AM

We had the St Lawrence Society. I never made out why it was called that, now I come to think of it

Patron saint of grilled food?


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From: Richard Mellish
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 12:44 PM

The others in the bluegrass group were Dave West on banjo and Alan Ward on fiddle.

Last Thursday at the Islington Folk Club Martin Clark and I slowly recognised each other from fifty (frightening, isn't it?) years ago.


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From: Herga Kitty
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 08:42 AM

John Williams - Jim Sharpe, IIRC, hails from Essex not Hull...

Kitty


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From: Richard Mellish
Date: 16 Apr 19 - 05:21 PM

I'm slowly getting my tapes digitised.

Just playing the tapes into the computer is fairly straightforward, but a lot of time is then spent in splitting the files according to where and when, doing some equalisation where needed, and typing up the indexes from my handwriting on the insides of the tape boxes.

If there's a demand I'll investigate possibilities for making the sound files generally available, but I sent a first batch off to Keith Bloomfield in February on a USB stick and those were already several gigabytes (as WAVs). I can fairly easily reduce them to MP3s or other compressed format, but the total volume may still be a bit much for uploading to a website.


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: GUEST,Hugh Miller
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 03:24 PM

I was in Heritage 1965-1969, and some of you will have seen my photos that Richard Mellish linked to: https://www.hughmillerphoto.com/Music/Oxford-University-Heritage/
You might also like https://www.hughmillerphoto.com/Music/Folk-performers-from-the-60s/
I'd love to see a copy of MikeofNorthumbria's account - but I don't know how to PM him on Mudcat. Can anyone help? An email address for me is on the photo pages I've linked to.
Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 08:11 PM

Easy done, Hugh. Look up the thread to a post by Mike, and after the name there's PM- just click on it. You probably need to be signed up as a member for that to work, but tyat just takes a few seconds - click on Membership at the top of the page, andtgen ust put in your email and make up a password, and you are aboard.

It's a fascinating account by Mike, and brought back a lot of great memories of being active in Heritage alongside Mike, 1961-64


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Subject: RE: Oxford University Heritage Society - req
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 27 Jan 20 - 03:04 PM

Hugh... I've emailed Mike with your email address ... Derek


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