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Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)

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Subject: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Folknacious
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 03:29 PM

I just spotted this news on fRoots - surprised it hasn't reached here.


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 03:37 PM

Aw, lovely man, a loss to folk indeed.

G


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 03:46 PM

Terribly sad news. The Spinners were my introduction to folk music (as is the case with so many people) and Cliff gave them an added dimension.
He will be missed very much indeed. RIP


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: M.Ted
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 03:50 PM

this thread should be changed to an "obit" thread--


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Howard Jones
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 03:53 PM

Yes indeed. It became fashionable to sneer at the Spinners, but they introduced so many to folk music. I owe them all a huge debt for what became a lifelong passion. I moved on to what I thought of at the time as more "serious" folk, but looking back they were very good indeed.

RIP


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 04:04 PM

Sad news.


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 04:04 PM

Very sad.   My thoughts to the guys he left behind

Blessings
Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: GUEST,wordy
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 04:07 PM

I worked with the Spinners in the early days of the revival. Cliff was a gentle man and a pleasure to know. The Spinners did a great deal to open the minds of the general public to a music they were not used to hearing, thereby opening avenues for those of us starting out on the road of making a living from our music. It has never been fashionable with me to mock their contribution.


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: jacqui.c
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM

How sad. I loved the Spinners and Cliff always seemed to be such a gentle man, with a beautiful voice.

Rest in peace Cliff.


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Subject: RE: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Dave Earl
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM

That news saddens my day.

Like others the Spinners were my introduction to Folk music and song.

Rest peacefully Cliff

Dave


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: GUEST,Dave_
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 06:03 PM

Sad to hear, The Spinners and the Dubliners were my early folk icons.
RIP Cliff


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 07:18 PM

The Folk Club 'Up There' is further enriched !!


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Bernard
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 07:24 PM

"The Spinners and the Dubliners were my early folk icons"...

Yup, not many people you can say that about. Cliff will live on in peoples' memories, including mine.


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 09:00 PM

Sad news indeed! For me, too, they were the introduction to British folk music. Although I never managed to see them live, I have a dozen of their albums. Cliff seemed to bring a quiet kind of humour to their make-up, quite apart from being a lovely singer and a gentle person. RIP, Cliff.


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 09:33 PM

Does anyone know of a source online which might have some sound files? I am sure I must've heard them at some time, but at first I thought this was about the American band by the same name, different genre.

Sorry to hear of the loss of another good musician and man.


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 09:42 PM

I may be wrong but few of us in the States were aware of the Spinners as individuals. It was our loss. A couple of years ago I was introduced to Hughie Jones in Liverpool by Ken Lardner of Chantey Cabin and realized that I had missed out on a whole era of nautical singing.

As long as people remember, Cliff Hall isn't gone. That is the true mark of respect.

My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,JoanW
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 12:47 AM

katlaughing ---

Anyone can visit The Spinners Fan Club Site at
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com.

I had the pleasure of meeting The Spinners in Liverpool when I lived there for a time in 1976 and again in 1979. The Lads are all "smashing" blokes. I appreciated their music, then, and now. Their live performances were filled with good-natured humor and leap-frogged time, distance and cultures.

Each one of The Lads has a special place in my heart as I got to know them as friends. Cliff and his first wife, Janet, invited me into their home for dinner. Cliff had a 1956 Gibson hanging on the wall. It matched my own 1956 Gibson. We sat around, chatting, you'd never guess that he was the same man who, earlier that night, sang at The Liverpool Philharmonic Hall in a televised concert for millions.

That dear, sweet, gentle man shall be missed.

Cliff Hall, RIP


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 02:43 AM

Very sad news indeed. Although I saw the Spinners countless times I only met Cliff once and he was a most warm and supportive person.RIP.


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 03:20 AM

Thank you, Joan. I don't mean to be a pest, but that only led me to a general yahoo area. When I put in "spinners fan club" nothing came up related to any band. Maybe a more specific link, if someone wouldn't mind? Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:28 AM

Very sad to hear it - Cliff was a true gentleman, and always a delight to talk to whenever we would meet them backstage at some Do or other. R.I.P. Cliff - and play up a storm in the Heavenly band.

Bonnie and (I know he will want his name included in this message) Packie


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: nickp
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:34 AM

It was announced last night at a Phil Beer & Paul Downes concert in Topsham (Devon) when Mick Groves got up and performed a 'Gentleman Soldier' as guest with them. Another sad loss.


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:34 AM

You're never a pest, laughing Kat - here ya go:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/thespinners/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups

If you need to type a name into searchboxes, the one you want is "thespinners"


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:35 AM

Good article in the obits of the Independant.

RIP Cliff

Dave.

But if a woman sweeter than me
Then I jump in the River Mersey


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 05:44 AM

Sad news indeed.

Here's another link The Spinners

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 06:07 AM

Try here: http://uk.geocities.com/davenhel_uk/spinners.html


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Silas
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 06:11 AM

Absolout bloody travesty that they never got a lifetime award from the BBC. Can't think of any group that deserved it more.


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Subject: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners
From: Schantieman
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 06:48 AM

Just seen in the Liverpool Daily Post of the death yesterday of Cliff Hall aged 83 in Adelaide, Australia. There's an article nearly filling p3 and an obituary on p9. Can't seem to find it at their website
though.

Cliff was born in 1925 and came to England from Jamaica in 1942 to join the RAF, worked as an electrician in the 50s and met Tony Davis. In 1958 they joined Hughie Jones and Mick Groves to form The Spinners, who survived till 1988. Their influence on the English folk revival was incalculable.

He married three times and was twice widowed and had three children.

When the roll is called up yonder....



Steve


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Scooby Doo
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 06:52 AM

Very sad news RIP Cliff.
Scooby Doo


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 07:09 AM

The Spinners - Myspace page


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Subject: RE: Obit.: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Vin2
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 07:25 AM

Very sad news. I echo most of what has been said above. I'm not sure that Cliff and the Spinners have ever really been properly recognised for the (in my opinion) massive contribution they made to the spreading of 'folk' music and song to the general public. I have often said that they were the only group i know who could turn a sell out Manchester Free Trade Hall into a folk club for the night. I'm sure that was the same with the Phil too.

Because of Cliff's background, great voice, musicianship and gentlemanly approach, he added a great dimension to the music. Condolences to his family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 07:30 AM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4THaCZmzMQk


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 07:35 AM

Sad news indeed. I knew him and the other Spinners for many years and always enjoyed the friendship. Cliff was great to talk to and as earier posted, his music added another dimension to the group repertoire. The Spinners were hugely influential, they spread the word of folk music to thousands of people who might not have heard it otherwise. I totally agree with the posting from Silas.
Goodbye and Rest in Peace Cliff. You leave many good memories behind you.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 07:46 AM

The world is a sadder, darker place for loss of this lovely man.

Our consolation is that he is in the arms of the Great Mother, will know the smile of the All Father, and be in good company.

Rest in peace - requiescat in pace, Cliff.

Condolences to his family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Bradders
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 08:18 AM

Indeed a very sad time for Spinners fans of old. I recently saw Mick Groves who mentioned that Cliff was unwell. I was but a lad in the seventies when i found the Spinners and they inspired my in Folk music and sill keep me enthused to this day. I still have spinners CD's in my car and play then regularly.

My heart gors out to Dorothy and his family and the rest of the Spinners who must be terribly saddened at this news.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Skipper Jack
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 09:19 AM

Sad news indeed.

I remember Cliff doing a workshop on West Indian songs? at the EFDSS Festival quite a few years ago. He was a lovely chap to know.

My sympathy goes out to his family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: ard mhacha
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 11:54 AM

Cliff always had a smile on his face, God rest his Soul, another folk legend gone.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 12:04 PM

Thanks to all for the links.:-)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:07 PM

I was brought up with the spinners, the dubliners and the corries, it is a sad day when Cliff Hall has died, like Roy Williamson of the corries.

but the heavenly folk club has now a new member

Tom fae Scotland


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:10 PM

I forgot to mention I have only seen the Spinners twice once in Harrowgate? and the other time was in Ayr


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Spinnersue
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 04:50 PM

Such sad news about Cliff. I started following the Spinners in the early 70's and became friendly with them all. Cliff was a true gentleman and so talented. Now that reunion of the lads can never happen. R.I.P. dear Cliff.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,spinnersue
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 05:27 PM

Sorry to hijack this thread, but just to let members of The Spinners Folk Forum know that in light of this very sad news I am now keeping the forum open indefinitely for anyone who would like to post about Cliff.

http://spinnersue.proboards106.com/index.cgi


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Phil Beer
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 06:45 PM

Just got back from the studio where I've been working on a new Mick Groves solo album. Micks just headed off to a local club in Kennford to do a spot playing Cliffs lovely old martin guitar. The spirit lives on!!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 08:29 AM

sorry to hear this.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 02:20 PM

Have just returned from 2 weeks in Cornwall to hear of this very sad news. I was lucky to know the Spinners for over 25 years and often travelled with them to gigs etc. Cliff was the most genuine person you could wish to meet. My last meeting with him was a few years ago before he went to Australia, to intoduce him to Linda, my bride to be. We had a lovely day with Cliff and although he couldn't make our wedding gave a wonderful limited edition print which we both treasure.

Rest in peace Cliff, you will never be forgotton.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Paul Sirman
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 02:22 PM

Have just returned from 2 weeks in Cornwall to hear of this very sad news. I was lucky to know the Spinners for over 25 years and often travelled with them to gigs etc. Cliff was the most genuine person you could wish to meet. My last meeting with him was a few years ago before he went to Australia, to intoduce him to Linda, my bride to be. We had a lovely day with Cliff and although he couldn't make our wedding gave a wonderful limited edition print which we both treasure.

Rest in peace Cliff, you will never be forgotton.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Big Tim
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 05:00 PM

He was a great man and a fine folkie, but also a (probable unwitting) pioneer of the fact that racialism is a crazy concept.

Glad you lived to be 83 Cliff, I will always remember you.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 09:10 PM

He was a good man, as indeed are all the Spinners.
They have left a fine, friendly musical legacy following their end as a group in 1988.
Their club was a fine place to play.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Fliss
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 02:10 PM

I saw the Spinners at the Fairfield Halls in Croydon a couple of times in the early 70's. I enjoyed their humour and banter with each other and the audience.

I remember that when they were singing 'Twas pleasant and delightful' when it game to "bound for the East Indies" Cliff would say "West Indies". It always drew a great laugh.

They gave a lot of enjoyment to a lot of people.. now that cant be bad.

RIP CLiff


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 03:08 PM

A great tragedy and a great man, one who will live on as long as we continue to share his love of folk songs and continue to play them. I've updated the Spinners' website with a series of obituaries; if anyone finds any others, please e-mail me via the site.
Dave
Spinners Website


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: JohnB
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 10:58 PM

So sorry to hear this sad news, Great pioneers of Folk and English and Jamaican music and a GREAT influence on a lot of us, whether we choose to admit it or not.
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: GUEST,Sean
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 05:20 AM

I knew Cliff and Dorothy for such a short time in terms of "The Spinners", but they took me to themselves and their family so easily and without pomp. I had known of "The Spinners" and had followed their music for years in the UK, never knowing that I would meet Cliff here in Adelaide. To meet him and to get to know him and Dorothy over the years has been a privilege that I shall treasure for the rest of my life.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 05:30 AM

Guardian obituary


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Subject: RE: Obit: Cliff Hall of the Spinners gone (UK)
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 06:31 AM

I particularly liked this from the Guardian obituary: "In 1965 Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders "borrowed" Cliff to add his deep voice to the word "love" in the recording of their chart success, Game of Love."

R


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