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irishenglish 16 Jul 08 - 02:18 PM
beardedbruce 16 Jul 08 - 02:23 PM
Newport Boy 16 Jul 08 - 02:24 PM
annamill 16 Jul 08 - 02:45 PM
Bill D 16 Jul 08 - 02:52 PM
irishenglish 16 Jul 08 - 03:13 PM
gnu 16 Jul 08 - 03:34 PM
Goose Gander 16 Jul 08 - 03:40 PM
Rapparee 16 Jul 08 - 03:42 PM
gnu 16 Jul 08 - 03:54 PM
MMario 16 Jul 08 - 04:02 PM
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irishenglish 16 Jul 08 - 04:49 PM
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irishenglish 16 Jul 08 - 06:18 PM
Ed T 16 Jul 08 - 06:34 PM
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Subject: BS: Budweiser
From: irishenglish
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 02:18 PM

Well, I don't think I missed it, but it looks like no one has started a thread regarding the Budweiser sale. I'm not a fan of the beer-I'll drink it if its the only thing offered, but what's everyone's thoughts on a foreign company buying such a recognizable brand name?


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 02:23 PM

Not it's an Import!


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Newport Boy
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 02:24 PM

It's just a brand name - I don't drink the 'beer'. It doesn't compare with Budweiser Budvar, or Primator, or another dozen genuine Eastern European beers.

Phil


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: annamill
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 02:45 PM

Maybe they'll improve the taste.

Annamill(lover of Guiness)


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 02:52 PM

"I'll drink it if its the only thing offered," ...I won't. I'll drink lemonaid first. It's been about 22 years since I tasted Bud...and I poured out the last third of the can.

"... thoughts on a foreign company buying such a recognizable brand name?"

That's a different issue. Enormous amounts of the US is being bought by overseas interests....and even where ownership is retained, production is being moved..usually to China. A company in The Netherlands now own a huge supermarket chain where I live..("Royal Ahold"...guess what they are called?)

I am not trained in business economics, but I cannot imagine it is a good sign...except for those who rake in one huge profit and sit back & ignore the rest of the picture.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: irishenglish
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 03:13 PM

Well, I quote that wise sage from Arlen, Texas, Hank Hill-I have never poured out a beer.

Yes, Bill, I am certainly aware that overseas interests are buying lots of American companies and real estate. Again, I say, what are your thoughts on this, because this is Budweiser-in American minds, one of the first names you would mention when you think of ANY product in America, right up there with Coke, Ford, and Apple. First indications are that they are not going to lay people off, move production, etc, but I think it would be naive to think the new owners arent' going to make some changes. I'm just wondering in these days of marginilization, how people feel about such a major brand name being owned now by a European concern.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 03:34 PM

"how people feel about such a major brand name being owned now by a European concern."

You mean like Molson's in Canada? (Along with the Montréal Canadiennes?) Pretty pissed off, I expect.

I wonder if they will keep funding the NRA after the purchase?


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Goose Gander
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 03:40 PM

Good riddance, I refuse to drink the swill no matter where it is made and who takes the profits.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 03:42 PM

The Canadiennes fund the NRA?


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 03:54 PM

Well, Jacques LeMaire could rifle dat puck some better dan Bobby 'ull eh. An dat Yvonne Corn-Y-eh could take a shot from dah wrist and kerplunk bah-goddamn!

This Canuck does. I drink Canuck Bud. Maybe not for long, tho.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: MMario
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 04:02 PM

Aslong as they keep the clydesdales...


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 04:06 PM

And the TV adverts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 04:07 PM

If I change brands, I'll let you know, in case you have any shares in Bud. >:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: irishenglish
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 04:10 PM

If I drink anything from a can (and I dont count those widget cans, they actually taste ok) it would be Pabst Blue Ribbon because my father once worked for them. But thats a very big if!


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 04:38 PM

what are my thoughts? My thoughts are, as I indicated, that it is disturbing as an economic trend. It is not 'pride of culture' or anything like that. I won't drink swill just because it is OUR swill. I barely drank beer at all until I discovered good imported beer in 1978, and soon after, we started the microbrewery revolution. The 46 billion dollars InBev spent won't help ME a bit...nor will it give me better beer, even though some of the very best beer in the world comes from Belgium! (InBev's list of brands doesn't interest me)

I do think any nation needs iconic brand names they can call their own, but since Anheuser-Busch stole the name many years ago from overseas, Bud has never felt to me like some National Treasure to be protected. It's just a scary part of the moving of control of capital to 'other places' that worries me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: irishenglish
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 04:49 PM

Well, thats a good point Bill, and I wasn't intending my response to you earlier to come out snippy. I'm sorry if it did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 05:30 PM

(It's ok....but to add a thought,if companies LIKE InBev start buying smaller breweries who DO make good beer, you will see me on the protest lines!....It has already happened to one of my favorite companies...Celis Brewery of Austin, Texas. They were FROM Belgium, and were making some excellent traditional beer...Miller bought them, started messing with distribution and management, in in a couple of years ran the company into the ground. I am VERY tired of $$$$ interfering with quality!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 05:35 PM

Well...it says here that Celis exists again...not that *I* have seen any.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: irishenglish
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 06:18 PM

Damn, I remember, and liked Celis, but I completely forgot about it!
About 3 or 4 years ago someone brought back Rheingold, which was really refreshing in the hot summer, but already it seems to be gone again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 06:34 PM

Tastes much like a cross between old bilge water and rubber boot residue.

But, on a positive note it has a high calibre marketing campaign and a significant USA-ish following. Sure shows that marketing and loyality beats out taste.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 07:11 PM

It was the (virtually undrinkable) American version of Budweiser that pinched the name (but not the brewing qualities) from the real version that's been made produced for centuries in what is now the Czech Republic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 07:20 PM

I think it is a good sign for at least one mass-market US beer that it will be associated with decent brands such as Stella Artois and Beck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 07:23 PM

Yep..I didn't spell out the history of that sorry enterprise.

The strange thing is, almost immediately after this buy-out was announced, I started seeing new Budweiser commercials on TV....actually plugging it FOR taste & quality. One shows a beautiful blond girl tending bar, serving Bud to two guys and waxing poetical about the '130 years of brewing tradition with no compromise on quality'...*gag*....and the guys agreeing. (Well, they'd agree on horse-piss for money and to please that gorgeous girl).
They actually extol the mechanized, 'barely touched by humans' process as a virtue. As a result, it TASTES like aluminum and chemicals.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 09:22 PM

I actually drank a Bud Light about six weeks ago. First one I've ever had. Didn't taste like horse piss. Didn't taste like much of anything...sort of like cool tap water in a can. And I only drank it because my brother bought it for me. Next round I bought him a Diet Coke (at his request) and I had a Pepsi. It was another wild night out, lemme tell ya.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 11:50 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 12:05 AM

Well, that was brilliant; ahem,...before I was so rudely interrupted by my errant right baby finger I was going to say that Bud, Bud Light, etc., is piss water. Of course, down here in Texas, ya' all, we drink Shiner Bock; however, since I'm supposed to be an Irish-American folksinger, why I drink Harp under normal circumstances and
Bass if I cannot get a Harp, and then Shiner. But Budweiser? No way, it's piss water.

As for the $$$$ thing - I hate to be so old, crusty and cynical but we Americans are greedy bastards - money runs this country and nothing else. Even worse, the more I read about Irish history the more brokenhearted I've become over what seems to be a far greater number of Irishmen who, over the years, sold their brothers down the river for money, land and/or cattle. Hey, I'm getting off of it
here so I'm going to bail. Drink up folks, whatever your brew.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 12:19 AM

It is only fitting that Budweiser be European owned. The original Budweiser (from Budweis, CZ) cannot be marketed in the US under its rightful name. Here, if distributed at all, it is Budwar--or some such name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 06:15 AM

Put that Budweiser back in the Clydesdale,
It's not the right flavor for me.
The color's all wrong and there's not enough foam,
And its got all the kick of weak tea.
Now pour me a pint of that good Guinness beer,
With color you cannot see through.
Put that Budweiser back in the Clydesdale boys,
And pour me a beer that is true.

(chorus from my song, "Back In The Clydesdale".

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Paul Burke
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 06:42 AM

The American "brewer" Coors (with no history or customer profile in the UK) bought British entertainment megacorp and historic brewer Bass a few years ago. Bass had a museum of brewing history, named not surprisingly the Bass Museum- one of the most popular tourist attractions in the UK midlands. Coors renamed it the Coors Visitor Centre... and wondered why visitor numbers plummeted. It closed at the end of last month.


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Doktor Doktor
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 07:02 AM

Primator - Mocs Dobry! Na zdravie!

(hic)


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Mr Happy
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 09:11 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duff_beer


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Subject: RE: BS: Budweiser
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jul 08 - 10:13 AM

Shiner Bock is perfectly 'decent' beer, as is 'plain' Shiner (though the Bock really has 'flavor'). I have had it in Texas and 'up here'....I'd give it a B-. I can actually buy it here in Montgomery County, MD. The problem is, there are so many beers available in this large Metro area that are B+ or better, that I seldom resort to Shiner. I sure would not turn one down on a hot day at the Kerrville Folk Festival.


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