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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: CarolC Date: 25 Aug 08 - 04:49 PM In case anyone else finds him or herself dealing with the same question I was looking for an answer to, I'll give it here. I called the exterminator who did our house and they said that a vegetable garden needs to be a foot to two feet away from the foundation perimeter. I told the lady on the phone that my garden beds are 32 inches away and asked her if that was ok, and she said it was fine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Darowyn Date: 25 Aug 08 - 12:22 PM Despite the lousy august weather, we have some good crops this year. Rocket and other types of lettuce came up too quick to keep up with, and some ran to seed before we could eat them. We grow spinach, swiss chard and kale as salad leaves too. They have a bit more go to them than lettuce. Tomatoes are flourishing but have been slow to ripen especially the stripy ones. The Grand Prix cherry tomatoes are the sweetest we've ever tasted. We have grown yellow globe courgettes this year and they have done well- very tasty. We need some advice though. Wendy planted some seeds from a Butternut Squash from the supermarket, and we have three huge plants. The earliest of them has two squashes which are already as big as the ones in the shops. How do you know when the pick them? The grape vine has been a bit disappointing. Last year we made twelve bottles of wine. This year the grapes are bigger and are turning black already, but there are only about a dozen bunches. I don't really think it will be worth making wine this time. I've got a mango seed germinating in the boiler cupboard- but I think that would really be pushing our luck! Cheers Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Aug 08 - 10:48 AM This morning's garden foray required the front of my t-shirt pouched (sorry, no apron handy for the Aunt Em look) to collect all of my beautiful shiny eggplants, banana peppers, jalapeno peppers, and tomatoes. And I spotted another cantaloupe, this one back behind the heat pump. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Aug 08 - 07:58 PM I'm practicing my canning skills--had enough tomatoes this afternoon to can two pints. Small potatoes, so to speak, but I want to be sure I'm doing it correctly before I commit vast quantities of time and produce to this task! I love that tinny "pop!" a few minutes after it is out of the processing pot! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Aug 08 - 02:03 AM Visit the Dirt Doctor and look up termites. He has answers for that also. I'd think you can compromise--treat the topsoil, the deeper stuff is still there blocking out termites. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: CarolC Date: 24 Aug 08 - 01:54 AM I don't know if I need to be concerned or not. That's why I'm trying to find out how far away from the house the pesticides would tend to travel. Typically, they're applied through tubes down into the soil around the foundation. I don't know if they're only applied on the inside of the foundation or on the outside, and I don't know how far away from the foundation they would tend to leach. I can't really get rid of the pesticides because they're protecting our house from termites. If they would tend to leach over to the area where I put the new beds, I'll just move the beds further away from the house. I guess I'll call the exterminator who did our house before we moved in and see if they know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Aug 08 - 01:26 AM If you're concerned about the chemical content in the soil that you would be using then look to detox. This is from http://www.dirtdoctor.com/.
Soil Detox for Contaminated Soil Digging the soil out out and hauling it off is not the answer. That just moves the problem from point A to point B. If your soil has been contaminated with heavy metals like arsenic and chromium in treated lumber or creosote in railroad ties, or with lead and arsenic from iron supplements, or if the contamination is from pesticides or petroleum spills, the solution is the same. First, stop the contamination. Second, apply the activated charcoal product from NORIT called GroSafe. It's very fine-textured and must be mixed with water to apply. The next step is to drench the problem area with the Garrett Juice solution plus orange oil. Use the Garrett Juice formula that's detailed on the web site dirtdoctor.com and add 2 ounces of orange oil or d-limonene per gallon of mix. GroSafe will tie up the contaminants, the Garrett Juice and orange oil stimulate the microbes to eat the contaminants. Liquid molasses is in the Garrett Juice mix but adding dry molasses to the soil at 10-20 per 1000 sq ft will greatly help the decontamination process. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: CarolC Date: 23 Aug 08 - 04:17 PM Solar gain isn't a problem in this location. It only gets morning and early afternoon sun most of the year, and the siding is light beige vinyl. I actually have in mind to use this location for plants that need less sun and summer heat than the rest of the yard provides. And I have some other beds the same distance from a board fence that are doing spectacularly (the tomatoes are 7 feet tall right now, and still growing), so I don't think there's a problem with air circulation. I'm not going to move the beds I've already dug unless the roots of the plants would come into contact with a pesticide. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Aug 08 - 04:05 PM I don't know about termite treatments, but I have found that veggies too close to the house don't get the air circulation they need, and they suffer from the solar heat gain of the siding (brown brick, in this case) keeping them too warm in the summer. I have a couple pepper plants too close to the house, and lost some squash altogether. I'm going to stay three or four feet away next time. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: CarolC Date: 23 Aug 08 - 03:42 PM I just dug three new vegetable beds about 30 inches away from our house (we have a small yard), and I didn't think until after I had them dug, that there might be a problem with them being that close to the house because of whatever chemicals the termite people use on houses. Anyone got any idea how far away from a house vegetables should be grown? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Aug 08 - 03:15 PM Attacking an invasion of lace fly (not lace-winged fly, that one is beneficial). Lacy fly is like aphids on the move. Hard to get rid of, but my eggplant have dropped a couple of immature fruit, so I have to nip this in the bud, so to speak. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: MAG Date: 23 Aug 08 - 01:23 PM I'm just getting tomatoes right now; busy yanking weeds right and left - feverfew and sweet rocket seeds into the trash; they are too prolific. 2 basil plants are cleaned off at the moment - have to wait for more. yanking up oregano and composting it - another too prolific thing. I let the mint go; it's nice to walk on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 23 Aug 08 - 09:14 AM Plastic grocery bag of lima beans here this mornin', 2 zuchini, 1 yellow squash, 4 tomatoes and a dozen or so okra... Gonna put in brocolli later thyis week but at least found a six-pack of seedlings... Also gonna plant lettuce, spinich and beet seeds when I put the brocolli in... No more beans though... Maybe 6 cabbage plants... Then that's is it for this year... Thank God... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 23 Aug 08 - 08:17 AM I don't want to hog this fine thread. Anyone else having fun wth veggies? A beautiful juvenile black-billed cuckoo just flew into the house and stunned himself. We set him in a little box for warmth and support, then backed away. He has recovered well, and after a half hour has just flown off into the pines across the road. Making this land back into good bird habitat has been vital in restoring the balance here. It's the insect-eaters that have dramatically reduced the pest insects populations, and the seed eaters help reduce the weeds. That young cuckoo will be around for a while it seems. I'm glad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 22 Aug 08 - 10:35 PM Four days after I mentioned tiny little beans forming I picked about three pounds tonight: Royal Burgandy bush, Masaii Green Vert Filet bush, Blue Coco, Gold Bacau, and True Vermont Cranberry. They're washed and bagged ready for the farm stand in the mornng. We also picked some sample ears of corn. They were a little young, but nearly perfect. Score one for us. We'll go make the rounds again before bed, patrolling to keep out the raccoons and whitetail deer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 20 Aug 08 - 02:50 PM Dug and washed Red Thumb, La Ratte, and All Blue potatoes for our little farm stand this morning. I love seeing the colors come gleaming through when I wash them. Also on the stand are half a dozen kinds of tomatoes including Lemon Boy, Sugary, Juliet, Early Girl, Green Zebra, and Super Fantastic. Bright Lights Chard is pretty and delicious too, and the zinnias in the bouquets pick up some of the same colors. Green Flash and romaine lettuce and fresh bantam eggs finish the picture. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Aug 08 - 10:44 PM The Mudcat Gardeners thread showed 52 views in the last 24 hours. That's a lot! I wonder how many people read these threads who never remark, but follow links to see what's up? I picked a basketball-sized cantaloupe this afternoon. It will take a while to ripen completely, but it was out there a lot longer than the last one that had a nice consistency and flavor but wasn't real sweet. Leave them too long and something attacks them. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 19 Aug 08 - 08:40 PM Yeah, I think that beetroot is prolly the same as beets... Real dark purple roundish root 'bout 3 inches (50-60 mm) in diameter??? Tops dark green with purple viens... Also edible... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Joybell Date: 19 Aug 08 - 08:23 PM Thank you SRS. I'll take a look. Beets. Not a common item here -- except for what we call beetroot. True-Love remembers them. I'd like to give them a try. Cheers, Joy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: MAG Date: 19 Aug 08 - 02:57 PM I pulled the seeds off the sweet cecily and planted them. The angelica plant keeps coming back year after year after year, although it's supposed to be a biannual. (biennial?) 6 tomato plants, 3 varieties, the super fantastics are coming in big. (Bacon basil tomato sandwiches w/ slathers of mayo on oat bran toast) The blackberries tie my gut in knots these days and rightnow I can't give them away. still a few blueberries. birds got the raspberries. can't get rid of the horseradish; one small plant years ago and I can't kill the runners. A few small leaves in salad add a nice zing though. Collected seeds from the scallions; I've got tons. anybody want dug up Lily-of-the valley? or know when is a good time to dig 'em up? Is now a good time to plant chervil and lovage for next year? I'm told I can eat the berries off the Oregon grape, but I haven't had the nerve to try it. ah, summer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Aug 08 - 11:38 PM The novelty wears off when you end up picking stuff several times a day, doesn't it? But I'm keeping my fingers crossed for more tomatoes. They go in spurts. Joy, Mudcat Gardeners is a Google group set up for sharing photos. Feel free to join! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 18 Aug 08 - 08:33 PM Funny, joybell, We're getting ready to put in our fall brocolli seedings in about two weeks, along with spinoch, cabbage, lettuce and maybe a few more beets, all of which we can harvest before winter hits... Today we harvested: 3 zuchinni 6 yellow squash 5 gal. bucket of tomatoes 3 cucumbers a handfull of okra We are still waitin' on our limas to fill out... We pulled up our pole beans because we froze about 20 pounds and got tired of picking them and eating them... We have about 50 pounds of onions pulled and stored and maybe 200 pounds of potatoes in the "tater house"... We'll can and freeze tomatoes and maybe make some "V-8" Juice with the extras... We've given away lots and lots of stuff allready and I'm sure before it's over we'll give away alot more... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Joybell Date: 18 Aug 08 - 08:05 PM What a fun thread. May I come on in and play. It's Winter here in Aus. I'm sorting seeds and planing for the Spring. My patch of broccoli is about to produce edible bits. Put in three varieties of raspberries yesterday. I'm concerned about environmental weeds too and I'm careful about what I let loose. True-Love is building a food-cage. I'll be able to hide in it an pull faces at the swamp wallabies peering through the wire. We've planted lots for them and the other wildlife. They don't need my lettuce. The smaller lizards, and the small insect-eating birds, will still be able to help with removing pests. I know chickens aren't vegetables but I'm quite excited about fitting them into our garden. We bought an old trailer (caravans we call them) to use as a chicken house. Surround it with a covered run to keep out wedge-tail eagles, brown falcons, ravens, foxes, snakes. We'll turn the cupboards into open nesting boxes and add some perches. They probably won't need the stove or the 'fridge but the sink might make a useful water bowl. Cheers, Joy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 18 Aug 08 - 09:09 AM SRS- I know what you mean! The named varieties behave fairly well here, and any unwanted volunteers are hoicked out without hesitation. There are a couple of different wild bindweed cousins that also have pretty blossoms but are the family from hell. They die on the spot when we see them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Aug 08 - 08:54 AM You couldn't pay me to plant morning glories. Your climate must keep it under control? They're like kudzu when they get going in some places. We had a horrible time getting rid of them when I was a kid and we lived in Seattle. Seems the next door neighbor planted them because she thought they were pretty and they went nuts, climbing walls, buildings, trees. As bad as Himalaya blackberries in that environment, or Scotch Broom. I see that one offered as an ornamental down here in Texas. They must be nuts. :-/ SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 18 Aug 08 - 08:07 AM The pole and bush beans are finally getting enough sun for the pollinators to do their thing. Tiny little beans in purples and greens can now be seen. The scarlet runners have joined the cardinal vine (morning glory family) in enticing hummers to take one more sip of nectar from scarlet flowers. Heavenly Blue morning glory blooms have opened in a blue that is indeed heavenly and happens to match the blue of the bedstead gate. I've begun digging mounds of potatoes in white, yellow, red, brown, and dark purple. I love washing the dirt away, revealing the wet colors like beach pebbles in the surf. These we'll eat and sell. The later 'taters will be cured and stored for our winter larder. I'm freezing the Julie grape tomatoes whole for making sauces. They're really more of a small Roma paste than the usual grape tomato. One of our favorites this year is "Lemon Boy" with sunlit yellow, large, low-acid fruit. I'm anticipating Garden Peach and Black Cherry, both with amazing flavors and beautiful fruits. They were the latest to be planted, and will be moved into the greenhouse if necessary to get their delicious fruits ripened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maire-aine Date: 17 Aug 08 - 01:43 PM I don't do much gardening, because there is a big farmers' market only a mile away. And it is all locally grown produce, mostly within this county. So I buy what I need, and nothing goes to waste (waist yes, but not waste). I did, however, have a good crop of black raspberries-- just wish they were the kind that produces a second crop in the fall. I planted a few tomato plants, and just picked my first 2 ripe tomatoes. These were heirloom varieties that were new to me, and they didn't produce much fruit, so I don't think I'll plant them again. I do have a lot of the usual herbs-- chives, parsley, oregano, thyme. They're doing great, except the basil which has suffered from the dry spell. Maryanne |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Aug 08 - 01:02 PM Thanks, maeve! Your corn sounds wonderful! My garden is still going strong, though it has a bit of a "wounded warrior" look. Everything is big and hulking now, tomatoes leaning over, eggplant leaning on tomatoes, carrots and oregano way down under stuff, long forgotten. Cantaloupe crawling everywhere, a few fruits coming along. Peppers and tomatoes ripening so fast I'm picking two and three times a day. Tomatoes are getting a second wind with cooler weather and rain, new green branches coming up from the ground where they have come to rest. I am to the point of having to poke around under cantaloupe and eggplant leaves to find hidden ripe tomatoes. Lots of eggplants--I have given them away by the pound to a friend who is trying new recipes that he is canning. One is for a Mediterranean spread (tomatoes, peppers, garlic, herbs all combined and the recipe says not to open it for a month until it has time to really blend). My next door neighbor came over yesterday for some jalapenos and I convinced her to take several extra so she can slice and freeze them. She was thrilled to see what eggplant look like on the plant--this really is one of the reasons I put the garden where I did--so few people these days actually get to experience the pleasure of seeing where food comes from! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 17 Aug 08 - 12:24 PM I'm with you there, pattyClink. Parsley is wonderful to have on hand in the winter. It's great with potatoes too, and in in pesto. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: GUEST,pattyClink Date: 17 Aug 08 - 12:02 PM Joseph (and whoever else has it) FREEZE THE PARSLEY! Wash it, chop it, shove it in a Ziploc, flatten it, and stick it in the freezer. It stays nice and green, fine for cooking. Break off chunks to cook with all winter. Use it in chicken soup, 'bouquets garni', marinara sauces, and you need a ton of it for New Orleans Red Beans and rice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 17 Aug 08 - 11:11 AM I went digging to find and refresh this thread. Our corn (maize) is growing tall and strong. It's so beautiful, with liquid greens in the leaves, and that tumbling corn silk like a child's hair. Peaches and Cream is nearly ripe, with Delectable, Painted Mountain, Bodacious, and Colored Dent following close behind. Each patch contains 35-50 plants of one variety. We have 7 corn patches on trial here in our Maine gardens. What beauty have others found in their vegetable gardens? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Aug 08 - 12:06 PM Well, Damn. I just found fleas on the pit bull. In all of these years none of the animals have had them. It's hot and dry out, not typical flea weather. She's getting another bath today, and I'll let the shampoo stay on her for 5 minutes. I'll bail all of their hay out of the garage stall, and pick up beneficial nematodes to spray around the yard. I'll also use some orange oil. I'll pick up some new vacuum cleaner bags and give the house a good once over. Pick up flea collars at the vet for all tomorrow. Damn. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Aug 08 - 12:04 PM Whoa, but it's hot out there! 105+ for several days, predicted through Monday (calling for a heat advisory). The produce is cooking on the vine this weekend. I have onions, tomatoes, and two types of peppers--it's salsa on the vine! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 31 Jul 08 - 12:24 PM I've been seeing balls of caterpillar poop on the ground under a couple of tomatoes, but it took a day to recognize what I was seeing, and I went looking for that monster caterpillar (tomato hornworm) but didn't find it. I think the garlic pepper tea with orange oil and fish fertilizer must have knocked it out or scared it off. No sign (with flashlight at night and in the bright light of day) or additional damage. Geez. I must have a bug sign out there that says "free food here." SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Joseph P Date: 31 Jul 08 - 06:20 AM I'm having to make do with just a box of herbs, my girlfriend has taken over the rest of the 'garden' (about 1 or 2 m2 of soil in total) with bedding plants. Sadly the coriander has gone to seed, the basil didnt take to the hot weather, we just have a load of parsley, which i hardly ever use! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 31 Jul 08 - 06:17 AM That long-awaited rain is good, eh? Enjoy it, SRS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jul 08 - 11:50 PM More rain this evening. I guess the trick to get rain is to sacrifice your garden to the spider mites. Found one of my biggest tomatoes with the top half eaten off, great big bites. Probably a squirrel. I left that one out there, hoping the little bas**** eats the same one and leaves the rest if he comes back. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jul 08 - 10:01 AM So, I said I'd back off watering--I need to say that more often. We got our first good rain in about a month this morning! It was wonderful--first hearing it on the roof, then looking outside to see if it really was rain I was hearing and not just the air handler noise from the heat pump. Watching the yard I saw one of the dogs come trotting around the end of the garage and duck in the door, then both of them sat in the door staring out, like they'd forgotten about rain. I hear claps of thunder in the distance--too bad I have to work today, I'd like to just wallow in the cooler temperature, the overcast, and sound of thunder all day. :) SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Jul 08 - 11:08 PM Garlic pepper tea and a little orange oil or fish fertilizer, and every three days for nine days. Probably have the garden too wet, over-compensating for the heat. I'll back off on the watering. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 29 Jul 08 - 08:10 PM Insecticidal soap... Nighty, night, spider mite... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Jul 08 - 06:33 PM Spider mites. Damn. They're moving in. Gotta get out the Dirt Doctor info and choose my attack. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Jul 08 - 01:15 AM Bee, I have done that tomato trick here in Texas in the fall. I learned it when I was a kid in Seattle. Mom used to hang the whole plants from the ceiling in the basement when it looked like the first frost. Bobert, I'm never liable to have a hankering for lima beans, so even blanching and freezing are more work than I'd go to for such a tormentor from my childhood. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 28 Jul 08 - 09:04 PM Well, SRS, what Bee said about 'um fresh... But if ya' blanch 'um and put 'um in ice water, then dry 'um and put them in vacuum packs, put 'um in Mr. Freezer then come next January when you have a hankerin' for a good lima just let 'um thaw and they gonna be like right off the vine... Yummy... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bee Date: 28 Jul 08 - 06:31 PM Eat 'em boiled with butter and fresh black pepper - broad beans are good like that as well... er...IMO. All you old-hand gardeners who live in long-season places won't be interested in this or already know it, but for more Northern amateurs, there's a neat solution to unripe tomatos (besides using them green). I've done this several times. When you find a heavy fall frost is predicted, and you have plants covered with nice green tomatos, haul the plants right up roots and all. Shake some dirt off and hang the plants roots up in a sunny room. Pretty well every tomato will ripen fully over a few days, with no rotting and none of that hardness you get in some tomatos not vine-ripened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Jul 08 - 01:09 PM I thought you might say that. How do you eat them when you grow them fresh, and do they revert to their old awful selves if you freeze or can or dry or whatever the beans you grew? SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 27 Jul 08 - 03:46 PM I did, too, until I grew them and had them fresh... The rest are crap... Try one, you'll like it... I promise... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Jul 08 - 02:47 PM I hate lima beans. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Bobert Date: 27 Jul 08 - 02:38 PM It's been a week now since we removed the fungus leave, SRS, and the plants look great and we have our first tomaoto ripening so by the end of the week we'll be havin' tomato sammichs... We had friends up today and loaded them up with our excess cukes, beans and potatoes... We've got 20 pounds of beans allready in the freezer... These are the flat pole beans... No strings... Just cut 'um into 2 inch long pieces and stirfry 'um with onions and garlic... Yummy... We're gonna have a ton on limas... Nothin' better than ***fresh*** limas... Little butter and salt and yummy... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: maeve Date: 27 Jul 08 - 01:31 PM Guest= maeve without her cookie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Veggie Gardenin'... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Jul 08 - 01:29 PM It's supposed to be 105 here today. I think I'll go pick vine grilled tomatoes for dinner tonight. I took a leaf from your book, Bobert, and am testing the "cut off the sick leaves" approach on the tomato. I noticed that the leaves that were browning didn't have fruit or blossoms on them. It may be a combination of blight and sacrifice to get the fruit to ripen. I finished building a table top outside for my kitchen stuff, the roaster, the convection oven, we'll see what else is suitable out there. I'll bake outside and keep from heating the house so much. I wanted a sturdy table that the weather wouldn't affect. The equipment will only go outside when it is needed. I'm going to start this afternoon with two items, a loaf of bread and a lamb/tomato/eggplant casserole. SRS |
