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Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online

BB 12 Oct 08 - 04:42 PM
GUEST,Barbara Hoyle 13 Oct 08 - 04:41 AM
GUEST,Barbara Hoyle 13 Oct 08 - 04:46 AM
Paul Burke 13 Oct 08 - 04:52 AM
GUEST,Barbara Hoyle 13 Oct 08 - 05:06 AM
theleveller 13 Oct 08 - 06:30 AM
GUEST,A Guest 13 Oct 08 - 10:53 AM
BB 13 Oct 08 - 02:31 PM
GUEST,Beany 14 Oct 08 - 07:28 AM
Tim Leaning 14 Oct 08 - 08:34 AM
GUEST,TB 14 Oct 08 - 08:42 AM
The Villan 14 Oct 08 - 09:23 AM
GUEST,Barbara Hoyle 14 Oct 08 - 11:03 AM
Snuffy 14 Oct 08 - 11:34 AM
GUEST,Pickering Resident 15 Oct 08 - 06:29 AM
nutty 15 Oct 08 - 07:17 AM
The Villan 15 Oct 08 - 07:36 AM
The Villan 15 Oct 08 - 07:40 AM
nutty 15 Oct 08 - 08:03 AM
theleveller 15 Oct 08 - 09:17 AM
theleveller 15 Oct 08 - 09:40 AM
The Villan 15 Oct 08 - 09:43 AM
GUEST 15 Oct 08 - 01:23 PM
The Villan 15 Oct 08 - 02:14 PM
nutty 15 Oct 08 - 04:21 PM
GUEST,John Robinson 15 Oct 08 - 05:16 PM
theleveller 16 Oct 08 - 03:21 AM
GUEST,Graeme, Brother Crow 16 Oct 08 - 04:28 AM
theleveller 16 Oct 08 - 04:47 AM
GUEST,Beany 16 Oct 08 - 05:59 AM
GUEST,Graeme, Brother Crow 16 Oct 08 - 06:00 AM
The Villan 16 Oct 08 - 07:00 AM
The Greyt Hound 16 Oct 08 - 07:00 AM
GUEST,Barbara Hoyle 16 Oct 08 - 07:04 AM
The Villan 17 Oct 08 - 05:01 AM
GUEST,Emmy lou 17 Oct 08 - 05:17 AM
GUEST,Barbara Hoyle 17 Oct 08 - 05:29 AM
theleveller 17 Oct 08 - 05:55 AM
theleveller 17 Oct 08 - 06:04 AM
GUEST,Pickering Resident 17 Oct 08 - 06:38 AM
The Villan 17 Oct 08 - 06:56 AM
The Villan 17 Oct 08 - 05:24 PM
GUEST,blowz sans cookie 17 Oct 08 - 06:47 PM
The Villan 17 Oct 08 - 06:53 PM
GUEST,Redmando 28 Oct 08 - 08:15 AM
The Villan 28 Oct 08 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,topsy kretts 13 Nov 08 - 02:34 PM
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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: BB
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 04:42 PM

I have no particular axe to grind with this, but the level of the originally announced line-up seemed to me at the time to be extraordinarily high for the first year of a festival. I wonder how much of that ticket money had to be paid out in cancellation fees to the artists...

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Barbara Hoyle
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 04:41 AM

Beany,have you had any response yet to your registered letter last week?
Sarah,You seem to have been given a similar range of responses to the ones given to myself and a friend who is also having the difficulties detailed on this thread.Undoubtedly the various excuses were not very subtle stalling tactics.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Barbara Hoyle
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 04:46 AM

BB,
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments, but being a trusting soul, sent for the tickets and eagerly anticipated what promised to be a great weekend. Payment to the artists so that they will appear at next year's planned event is just one of the reasons/excuses which has been given for the total lack of refunds so far.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: Paul Burke
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 04:52 AM

But if they don't send out the refunds, there won't be any punters there to see the artists who appear next year...


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Barbara Hoyle
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 05:06 AM

Absolutely Paul, certainly my group of friends and I have not the slightest intention of going to next year's event, should it happen, for reasons which are all too obvious.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 06:30 AM

I do have some sympathy with the organisers - it was a bold move to try to establish a major festival of the scope of the one planned, in the North.I'm sure that, if the weather had been kind, it would have been great. As it is, I think the organisers have certainly undermined their credibility with their lack of transparency and communication.

We won't be going to the rescheduled event as it clashes with Ryedale Folk Weekend, otherwise we might have gone for the ticket upgrade option.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,A Guest
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 10:53 AM

Don't blame the artists for your lack of a refund. I can confirm at least some of them have not been paid their fees either. Can't speak for all of them though.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: BB
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 02:31 PM

I don't think anyone is blaming the artists - they're entitled to cancellation fees if there is little notice given. My thought was that the organisers were being too ambitious in the first place, certainly unless there was substantial sponsorship up front.

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Beany
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:28 AM

Hi Barbara and everyone in the same boat. I have not, as yet, received a reply to my letter sent to Events Office. However I have found out that if you paid for your tickets by credit card there maybe a way that the credit card company will refund the money and then chase the company that should have provided the service - in this case The Events Office.
I feel very sorry for the organisers that this situation has arisen but I do strongly feel that they should have been posting updates on their web site so that we would know what was happening and not leaving us in the dark so to speak.
Beany


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:34 AM

What a shame it all is.
Comiserations to all, customers, artists and organisers.
It does seem a pity that no one from the organisers could have just left some information on the thread here.
Even folkies can be reasonable if they are treated with a little respect and given info.
Hopefuly this will be a learning oportunity for us all.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,TB
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:42 AM

Like many others on here we have been chasing a refund of 4 tickets and have been given numerous excuses and promises. We have issued a letter and will be going to the courts soon.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 09:23 AM

I see that none of you have posted on their message board on the Festival thread. See here. http://theeventsoffice.co.uk/msg/YaBB.pl?num=1208273995


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Barbara Hoyle
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 11:03 AM

I note that there is now a new entry on the festival website, asking for notification asap if anyone has claimed on their credit card insurance.

Also: 'All ticket refunds are ongoing and will be made as soon as possible. Please be patient for all refunds to be made in full.'


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: Snuffy
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 11:34 AM

Perhaps the Festival could use their own message board to send messages letting people know what's happening - they haven't posted on there since April.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Pickering Resident
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 06:29 AM

From a post I made elsewhere when someone else asked about refunds...

At least one of the guys involved in organising it is a bit of a local character, who cycles between having loads of money and being bankrupt every few years. He seems to be heading towards a bankrupt phase at present, having recently, I believe, sold his trendy wine bar. He's made quite a lot of people in Pickering very unhappy through various means and personally, having met him on several occasions, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

Personally, I wouldn't get your hopes up folks but I'd love to be proved wrong, so we'll see.

This is all, of course, just my opinion and should be treated as such.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: nutty
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 07:17 AM

Opinions are not something you are allowed to have on this forum.

I got pilloried when I voiced mine (see previous thread - click)


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 07:36 AM

Nutty
Thats becuase people posting were insulting each other on the forum (flaming) which in 99% of forums is not allowed.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 07:40 AM

Come on guys, don't start flaming on this thread. This is about people trying to get their money back.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: nutty
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 08:03 AM

I apologise for the above comments. I should not have made them and have asked for them to be removed.
    Message removed per request.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 09:17 AM

You're quite right, Villain. I'm saying nothing more about previous threads.

Nutty, I suggest we let byegones be byegones - we're both passionate folk fans and choose to support the genre in our own ways. Vive la difference, as they say across the water.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 09:40 AM

Forgot to add that I, too, apologise for my comments.
    Message removed per request.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 09:43 AM

Hurrah :-)


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 01:23 PM

Well I'm another that's still waiting for a refund and have no intention of ettending any re-scheduled event. The Events Office are supposed to be professional events organisers but there is little evidence of this. I certainly can't get a response to any messages I send.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 02:14 PM

I have just posted this on their forum. We will see what happens.

As a folk club organiser and somebody that supported your Festival, I have to say that I am very disappointed at your response to the general public after cancelling this event.

There are a huge amount of people who have not received their money back

Many are taking the issue up legally

Many are complaining that you are using evasive comments and have no intention of paying the money back.

Is there anybody who would like to respond to that.

Failing that I will not be recommending or handing out brochures for your supposed event in 2009.

I find it shameful and a slur on decent organisers

Incidentally this post will be on other forums just in case you decide to delete it on this thread


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: nutty
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:21 PM

ADVANCED PUBLICITY FOR THE 2009 EVENT

click

Apparently posted on Monday


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 05:16 PM

So much for my interpretation of this business as a "success story". Evidence of bad organisation is visible on other threads in their, admitedly rarely used, forum. The knock on effect of such things is inevitable. I had it in the back of my mind to go to their next steam rally but I think I'll choose to go elsewhere for my annual dose of smoke and oil ....


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 03:21 AM

This may seem like a stupid question - but is anyone going to the rescheduled festival? If not, why not come to Ryedale Folk Weekend on the same weekend, just up the road from Pickering in beautiful Hutton-le-Hole. it was great last year and I reckon it will be even better this year.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Graeme, Brother Crow
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 04:28 AM

Indeed Mr. Leveller, and the provisional line up for Ryedale 2009 so far is:

Mawkin:Causley, Jackie Oates, Dave Goulder, Brother Crow, Lucy Ward, The Mick West Trio, Dave Burland, Richard Grainger, Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt, Adrian O, Dick Miles, Kim Wyrd Guy with more to come...

I hope things get sort of out for all of you waiting for money, and I genuinely wish the Pickering Festival all the success for the future...it's just a shame they've chosen a weekend in 2009 when there's another established festival under ten miles away.

Ryedale is a great venue, with the main concerts taking place in the reconstruction of a medieval Manor House. Those of you who were there last year will know the acoustics were great...

Best Wishes,
Graeme,
Brother Crow.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 04:47 AM

That's a fantastic line-up, Graeme. Will we be hearing selections from a third Brother Crow CD (worn the first two out!)? It'll be great to see those cheeky Mawkin lads again - hope the pub's got extra beer stocks in. And what about Lucy getting through to the finals of the Young Folk Musician of the Year Awards? Even more fantastic if she wins and, listening to the preview on Mike Harding last night, she's got a very good chance. (I think she's the only person we know who's young enough to enter!). Good luck, Luce!

Anyway, Whipstaff will be there to join in the singarounds (hope Jeanette remembers to reserve us a caravan spot)- we'll see you at KFFC BBB in November, if not before.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Beany
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 05:59 AM

Barbara, I read that you said that there has been an update on the festival website, please can you tell me where this is?
I have contacted the credit card company that I used to purchase the tickets and have been told that they will look into this but it may take some time due to the airline XL going bust.
I have also heard that the stall holders are also still waiting for their refunds.
Does anyone know of anyone that has indeed received their refund as that news may bring some more hope!
All of this could have been allayed if the Events Office had kept us all up to date with what was happening and I am sure that if they had then they would have had a great many more people wanting to attend the proposed festival for next year, although Rydale is looking preferable to me at this moment in time.
Beany


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Graeme, Brother Crow
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 06:00 AM

Yes, it's a cracking line up...

...Lucy Ward is Fab, and she most certainly has our support for Young Folk Musician of the Year. Get her booked for your club now...such stage presence for one so young...!

Third BC CD....well, it's written, and we're spending Dec/Jan rehearsing the new songs before starting the recording. Some of you that saw us prior to the release of Hollow Hills will have seen some of the "works in progress" such as "Once Their Were So Few", "Between The Forest and the Shore", "Just Another High Street" and "Cold".

Not sure when we'll release it as we've decided not to commit our selves just yet. We may actually have a couple of cheerful songs on there, though to counterbalance, there may well be also the bleakest song we've ever written...

...we probably ought to create another thread, I don't want to hijack this one, as people getting their money back is the most important thing here.

Best Wishes,
Graeme, Brother Crow.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:00 AM

Here is the link Beany

http://www.theeventsoffice.co.uk/events.shtml


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Greyt Hound
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:00 AM

Tis done. Here is a thread for Ryedale. Ryedale Folk Weekend 2009


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Barbara Hoyle
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:04 AM

Beany,
Apologies for not explaining properly. I meant their entry on the Radio 2 festivals website. The following should guide you there.

www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/folk/festivals

Then go to August and the appropriate date.

I still do not know of ANYONE who has received a refund, but would dearly love to be contradicted re this.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 05:01 AM

This was posted on the Events Office Forum

According to a mate of a mate's mate (who is in the know), there is no money, and some of the event suppliers and contractors have not been paid yet, not just for one event either.

I would'nt get your hopes up.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Emmy lou
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 05:17 AM

HI all - I am so sick of the lies we have been told by the events office for Pickering that I feel we should form some sort of action group to ensure we get our money back. From the end of August we have been told that the money will be with by next week/ 2 weeks time/ tomorrow. If you are interested then let me know via this forum.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Barbara Hoyle
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 05:29 AM

I'm interested Emmy lou.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 05:55 AM

I'm interested - could we take some sort of legal 'class action'. Surely, if there's no money they can't seriously be thinking of running a rescheduled festival? Does anyone know if The Events Office is a limited company (I'm assuming it is)- I'll check with Companies House when I get a mo.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 06:04 AM

To answer my own question: The Events Office Limited (based in Pickering) was dissolved in May 2007. There is an Events Office (Europe) Limited based at a chartered accountant's in Lincoln - don't know if they are the same people but they have never filed any account and these are now overdue.

If the organisers of the Pickering Festival are not a limited company, we can take action against the individuals themselves.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Pickering Resident
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 06:38 AM

As I said before, I'd be shocked if anyone got refunds but I am prepared to be proven wrong.

If you're going after individuals, I'd suggest starting with the local "businessman" behind the shambles/scam that was/is The Events Office, Mr Simon Boak.

Good luck :)


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 06:56 AM

Contact Name, Mr Simon Boak. Contact Address, The Events Office PO Box 1 Pickering North Yorks Yo18 7YG. Contact Tel, 01751 473780 mob:07787 115302 ...


Why don't you start a new thread

Pickering Folk Festival Action Group


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 05:24 PM

New thread started

PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money

You will find info on newspaper reporter waiting to hear your stories on how you haven't been paid. Get it splattered all over North Yorkshire


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,blowz sans cookie
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 06:47 PM

How many of the ticket holders do you reckon were also Mudcatters? Is this likely to be a sizeable response? Have you considered other ways of reaching disgruntled ticketholders?

I think it's a rotten way for any festival organiser to deal with their customers and a poor recommendation for any future events - but just onder how many people will see this, with due respect to the mudcat


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 06:53 PM

Well if you have any websites that you can recommend that would be very helpful. I agree, if the message can get out to as many people as possible, so much the better.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,Redmando
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 08:15 AM

Have any ticket-folders got there money back yet? Did you have to threaten/take legal action?


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 08:53 AM

Click on this link

thread.cfm?threadid=115359&messages=2#2468595

and towards the end of the thread you will find people who have had their money back


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,topsy kretts
Date: 13 Nov 08 - 02:34 PM

EVERYONE! Please listen carefully!

I doubt, very much, that anyone will recieve any refund at all. I live in Pickering and everyone here knows that the organisers for this event, have either gone bust, or bee in trouble with the tax man. For what everyone knows, none of the showfield belongs to simon boak anymore, it belongs to a consortium of 5 people. Chances are he has used your money to pay off his debts. Im sorry to dissapoint you all but it is common knowledge in the town that the events office is a disaster. Money is oqwed to MANY local firms who have supplied goods for events down at the showfield, and, to be honest many of these firms will never ever see there money back out of it. Its a damn farce and pure piss take of the local firms, and all you people who have supported such events as this one. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: theleveller
Date: 13 Nov 08 - 02:38 PM

I've had mine back.


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: GUEST,topsy kretts
Date: 14 Nov 08 - 01:34 PM

well you should think yourself lucky, because there are hundreds in the town alone who are still to receive anything...........


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Subject: RE: Pickering Folk Festival: Tickets Online
From: The Villan
Date: 14 Nov 08 - 02:11 PM

Topsy
Get in touch with the newspaper as mentioned on previous posts on this thread and tell them that


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