The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 10:17 AM

Wav, how do you separate between economic/capitalistic immigration and other forms?
And why do you disaprove of that regulation I mentioned, is it because you wouldn't have been able to find a job?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 12:56 PM

I was 3, Stigweard, and I stressed FROM NOW ON.
I've never studied medicine, apart from a bit of first aid, Volgadon, but imagine that there would be cases of some being able to live a much more comfortable life in another nation, which might be called "medical emigration" - with a self-explanatory difference from capitalist/economic emigration, I would have thought.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 02:07 PM

So, is medical the only acceptable form, and how can you tell the difference, someone could obtain a certificate from the doctor, yet go to work.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 08:37 AM

THE WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G.

Poem 82 of 230: ON ACTS 4:32-35

Believers were all one in heart and mind -
    They shared their excesses, giving in kind.
No-one claimed any possessions one's own -
    Yes, it was socialism on the throne.

So not long were there desperate folk -
    Fair distribution was the tongue they spoke.
And wealthy owners would sell part their deed -
    Funds, via apostles, to those in need.

Yet today, all round our troubled earth,
    Some Christians, safe at their own snug hearth,
Vote for their electorate's Right-Wing party -
    That's hypocritical, it seems to me.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 08:45 AM

Geeziz Wavydoof......That one is just incredible crap and as poetry misses the mark by, oh say, roughly a million miles. All of your stuff is lousy but for god's sake man..........Did you know there is a difference between bad and aggrssively bad? I didn't until I read that piece of shit. A new low!

Did your mother think your father was just excessively hairy and never realize she'd been screwing a yak?

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 05:03 PM

Strictly hypothetically, Catspaw, if I were to put one over you by plagarising say Milton, you'd still come up with the same alley-mouthed crude commentary - now get back to your kitty litter.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 05:11 PM

No Dude.....Just as in the case of your mother, I call a spade a spade.......or at least my NSHO. I don't care for Milton much so not liking it would be no surprise. Most of yours I've read just plain suck. Why not write one about your most used English instrument? Skin flute isn't it?......yeah, that's it!

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 05:44 PM

So, is medical the only acceptable form, and how can you tell the difference, someone could obtain a certificate from the doctor, yet go to work. If I emigrated somewhere and got a job, would I be a capitalist imigrant?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 07:19 PM

Don't you mind plagiarising and misinterpreting the Bible WAV?

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 07:24 PM

Stu, do you think that anyone who writes the crap he writes and preaches the bullshit he does is troubled by anything? Its not possible!

I think his biggest problem lately has been acquiring a new yak for his mother.....

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 07:32 PM

When I read his posts I have an awful fear that elsewhere in the world he might be thought to speak for England.

Folks, he's not English but he is thankfully unique

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 11:35 PM

Not to fear Stu. Judging from the way he writes, I doubt he can speak well enough to speak for anything. Its a problem that comes with the yak genes......

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 04:36 AM

The above poem, Stu, is not writings as one's own - I've recognized which part of the Bible I'm interpreting.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 04:52 AM

So, is medical the only acceptable form, and how can you tell the difference, someone could obtain a certificate from the doctor, yet go to work. If I emigrated somewhere and got a job, would I be a capitalist imigrant?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 05:11 AM

Misinterpreting and adding to in the interest of some strange distorted political agenda

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 02:00 PM

After all the pro-immigrationism of the Blair years, Stu, more-and-more MAINSTREAM politicians here are openly questioning immigration and the multicultural state.
"If I emigrated somewhere and got a job, would I be a capitalist imigrant?" (Volgadon)...yes - most, of course, would call that economic immigration/emigration but it is really, as I as, a hypothetical example of capitalist immigration/emigration.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 03:26 PM

Wavymumbles says: "yes - most, of course, would call that economic immigration/emigration but it is really, as I as, a hypothetical example of capitalist immigration/emigration."

Say what?......... As you as?   Geeziz Dude......Not only does your poetry bite the big one, so does your prose.....a fact many others have noted here as well. You need to relax. Take a break from finding a sutable yak for your Mom and go practice fellatio on your recorder or pocket flute.......whatever........

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 05:22 AM

No, Catspaw, it's you that needs to shut your flap and take a nap - if people are permanently leaving a country for economic reasons (perhaps to "get rich") it is, in effect, capitalist emigration/immigration.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 08:37 AM

So that's why your Mommy left England? It paid more going down down under, so to speak..............Capitalist immigration/emigration huh?

Okay, well I can see that...............

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:18 PM

...I think you've been on the catnip, again, Catspaw.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 02:53 PM

Life ain't no yuk for a yak
Who carries his pack on his back
Whose progeny spouts hopeless crap
While Spaw refuse to try to to take a nap.





Hey! His doesn't scan. Why should mine?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,We Subvert Koalas
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 04:49 AM

A search on Google for the term CAPITALIST IMMIGRATION throws up but one true hit - see HERE. Could it be by any chance that our transient all-singing, all-dancing Antipodean Anglophile has coined this term himself? If not, perhaps he'd be so good as to supply other instances where CAPITALIST IMMIGRATION is an accepted term of sociological / anthropological / economic (etc.) theory.

Could this be yet another instance of WAV smoke-screening his racism with bogus theory and banal euphemism? Remember, according to WAV, it is because of immigration that English culture is taking a hammering and, when people lose their own culture, society suffers.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Joseph P
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:46 AM

on his website? If its there its gospel.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:18 AM

"If I emigrated somewhere and got a job, would I be a capitalist imigrant?" (Volgadon)...yes - most, of course, would call that economic immigration/emigration but it is really, as I as, a hypothetical example of capitalist immigration/emigration."

Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:58 PM

Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I? (Volgadon)...Yes.
And, yes, I equated capitalist with economic immigration/emigration myself, WSK.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:27 PM

And ***POOF*** goes your pathetic nonsense in a cloud of dust much like the dust clouds you witnessed as a child when your mom was copulating with the yak. And of course your earliest song memory as you know is Mommy singing to you, "That's what I call balling the yak"............But as far as your theory goes.......well, its gone!

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Amos
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:38 PM

People, by their DNA, are brothers,
All of whom depended on their mothers
Up to a point; if I had my druthers,
People would be much nicer to each other.

IF they were, it is probably safe to say,
There might be a different and a better way,
WHere folks combined their efforts and their pay
And helped each other get by, day to day.

Of course, every system has abusers,
And even this idyllic scene would probably involve some takers and some users,
Who would puff them selves up and say they were just choosers,
And look down on everyone else and call them losers.

Sakkar Reine-Sloppe, Vestal Virgin, Temple of Tanit
Sardinia, 083 A.D.
Translated by Weecan Helphitt,
Ancient Whines Without Reason, Cagliari, 1954

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:47 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:51 PM

"Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I?"

Unless, of course, you're WAV, who apparently is on the dole. I wonder what is worse, WAV: being an immigrant who works, pays taxes and never has had a penny off the state (like me) or a "re-pat" who presumably has paid very little into the system, but relies on state support? Is that how you support your "own good English culture"?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:05 PM

I'm getting confused here.

If I were an avowed Socialist and I moved to another country to take a job, would that make me a Capitalist immigrant?

Lemme put the question another way:    when lunchtime comes around, if I go out in the kitchen and make myself a sandwich, does that mean that I am therefore a sandwich?

This is getting pretty metaphysical. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:14 PM

Dear Don - if you were a genuine socialist, you would surely not leave your land for monetary reasons, i.e. you would not become a capitalist/economic immigrant.
Ruth - maybe from my next interview I'll get a job, instead of "Why ON EARTH did you come back"/"you must be mad". And, in order to get at me and brag about yourself, you've just offended others who ARE trying to get BACK into work.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:59 PM

"if you were a genuine socialist, you would surely not leave your land for monetary reasons, i.e. you would not become a capitalist/economic immigrant."

And why wouldn't I, if there were no jobs available to me here and there were in another country? You're suggesting that I starve to death as a matter of economic principle?

You'll have to explain that a bit more fully.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:07 PM

"Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I? (Volgadon)...Yes."

Really? Even if I married a girl from another country and moved there to make things easier for her and got a job to support our new family (which is in the Bible you claim to believe), I would still be a capitalist immigrant?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:22 PM

No...Don has it. You would be a sandwich.

Ham on rye
I might buy
If I had a job
To fill my gob.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:54 PM

"And, in order to get at me and brag about yourself, you've just offended others who ARE trying to get BACK into work."

No bragging, Wavey - just home truths. I've been unemployed for all of about 3 months (and that was post-childbirth) since I arrived in this country nearly 18 years ago. Even when my daughter was little and my husband worked, I was a stay-at-home mum in the day, and then went out in evenings and at weekends working in restaurants and pubs.

As a good socialist I firmly believe in the welfare state, and in the underlying principle "from each according to their ability, to each accoring to their need." But personally, I would have been very uncomfortable receiving benefit in a country where I had contributed little or nothing to the tax system.

Don't worry, I don't begrudge you benefitting from the taxes I've been paying all these years, Wavey, with all my dirty foreign labour - even though you resent my foreignness diluting your culture.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 04:34 PM

Ooooh - look what I said back in August (stumbled on whilst page was loading, rather than a deliberate trawl - I'm honestly not THAT sad...)


' "Closing the borders is one way to avoid facing certain bitter truths."

Indeedio. But what happens when they close the borders and you STILL can't find a job? Who do you blame then?'

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:49 PM

Ah, HAH!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:53 PM

Don - recall "safety nets" are part of my proposed regulationism.

"Really? Even if I married a girl from another country and moved there to make things easier for her and got a job to support our new family (which is in the Bible you claim to believe), I would still be a capitalist immigrant?" (Volgadon)...No, you would not be, in my view - as the emigration was for love/marriage.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:05 PM

Then my question is, HOW can you tell the difference?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:02 PM

and what happens if, like me, you later separate? Should I have been compelled to return to America when my marriage ended?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:54 AM

No, Ruth - the initial act determines what kind of immigration/emigration it is/was; and that, plus a bit of common sense, answers your question, too, Volgadon.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 06:16 AM

Yeah, but Geez Wavylimpdick, you really don't want some American fouling up your pristine English vision now do you? No......that'd be nasty huh? It'd be like the time your Mom played "Glory Hole" with the entire crew of an American carrier.

BTW.......You're getting deeper and deeper into the racist/segregationist role.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 09:49 AM

You've not seen Green Card, have you?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 12:47 PM

Yes, Volgadon, and the USA could set a good example by ending it, in my opinion.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:17 PM

The movie?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:44 PM

He's right, Volgadon. Andi McDowell was terribly wooden.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:47 PM

The movie was terrible, no arguments, but it's the premise that I ment.
Depardieu wasn't much better than McDowell either.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:47 PM

I mean the system/lottery itself, Hollwoodies.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:50 PM

Wav, how are your regulations going to differentiate?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:57 PM

All of his will come with a piece of real salt water taffy!

Spaw