The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 12:24 PM

" Spaw has elucidated on this colourful Italian-American expression in the past - by continuing to use it, he is practicing his Own Good (immigrant) Culture."

LMAO.....I rarely get a good belly laugh Ruth, but that was just priceless.

See WavyFunkyWhiteBoyRacist, I'm both glad my grandpa caught the boat and happy to be an American with Italian and German and English and Welsh and Native American roots. My grandfather was happy too and although he loved both countries, he was smart enough to recognize each for what it was and how they made him. He never tried to remake his new home into what he thought it should be. He was happy about what it was (as long as the Cleveland Indians were having a good year).   

He was married to a German and lived in a small community where he was surrounded by many Italians.....and Germans......and Irish......and a few Welsh......and a large Amish contingent just up the road........and Czechs.....and a number of English origin who often had Scots and Native American blood mixed in with their own.........and African-Americans who were still sadly second or third class citizens.......and a few Greeks plus one family from Albania. All of these folks gave of their own and made up a whole. In hundreds and hundreds of other small towns, these same plus additional nationalities met and mixed and made something new.

And when they went to church they went to churches that were Methodist, Presbyterian, Moravian, Nazarene, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Jewish, Baptist, Episcopal, and a few others. They were all there in that small east Ohio town. They played baseball and football and went bowling but they also played Bocci and Darts and soccer and basketball. When I was a young boy there were kids named Pittis and Terakedis and Pickenstein and Neel and Washington and Clark and Smith and Jones and Gardena and Geannakopoulos, andWinzenreid and Pirilla................We didn't know from cultures......we just were.

Unlike yourself, they longed to be a part of what the country could be and they helped to form by looking to the future and not trying to live in an artificial past. As time passed, some felt they didn't get their fair share or were unhappy because they had expected more than they were willing to give and began taking it out on those who had. Like yourself, they were and are racists and bigots. Almost every nationality has come under their wrath but later they are absorbed as the new group replaces them.

I was about to go on and on but why? WavyFunkyWhiteBoyRacist is the kind of pissant jadrool who watches "Blazing Sadlles" and misses all of the jokes........"Okay, we'll take the niggers, but we NO IRISH!!!"..........Franks needs to walkabout sans pen and with open eyes and an open mind (which would probably require a lobotomy in his case).

Its very sad to create a "Life's Work" where the end product is the likes of David Franks.


Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 11:14 AM

I did a Google search on Mango-Flinger and I'm still none the wiser.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 10:59 AM

Nice to see you back, WAV.

Mango-flinger? Hmmm. Well, I think that would be acceptable in most quarters, again depending on context, tone, and delivery.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:47 AM

Stigweard, you're not paying attention. Spaw has elucidated on this colourful Italian-American expression in the past - by continuing to use it, he is practicing his Own Good (immigrant) Culture.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Stu
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:28 AM

Just thought I'd pop onto this version of take-a-pop-at-a-sitting-duck to see how it's all going and a conversation appears to have broken out.

"mamalucca"

Er, what's one of them then Spaw?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:04 AM

'Mango-flinger' seems ok as a descriptive term, but could have abusive overtones. I draw the line, however at 'mando-flinger'.
Tim

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:42 AM

Where do you stand on 'mango-flinger'?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 08:22 AM

WAV...shhhh; people are talking here, don't interrupt...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:57 AM

Don Firth, perhaps trying to be funny : "Enrish frute" and "didgeridon't".
Last night a school steel band, on their way to the Albert Hall, made our local news, but at least the presenter was enough of a realist to mention that they are not traditionl instruments of NE England; I would have added that, probably for a similar cost, they could have formed a Northumbrian pipe band...

213 of 230: MORE AMOR PATRIAE

There is Tai Chi AND there is tennis,
    Line is fine BUT so is Morris,
There is curry AND there is the roast,
    And, when England is playing host,
It is the rest-of-the-world's good wish
    To sense culture that is English.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 03:22 AM

Wron! WRONG! I bury my head in shame. (Thinks...what's wrong with my browser...?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 03:21 AM

Mmm... just read the thread count in the index. Gervase's post was actually 1203, so this one must be 1204...so, counting back and by my calculation, 1200 was really Spaw's. I will now exit stage left...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 03:08 AM

Pah! 1200 is just SO predictable.
I bag 1204.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 01:04 AM

I am surrounded by GIANTS!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 08 - 01:00 AM

Years of practice and dedication, man. That's all I can say.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 08:56 PM

WHAT?

Well just bugger me........yeah, drop my pants and nail me................yafockinsumvabitch.............

Christ on a crutch Hawk.....Ya' gotta' lotta' damn gall comin' round here and bitchin', pissin', and moanin', about how we drag this thread out fuckin' around with WavyFunkyWhiteBoyRacist and then YOU bag the hundred dozen???? You really are a broke-dick mamalucca of the first order!

And I admire you for it you asshole.................

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 05:31 PM

1200!!!!!!!!!!!

Banana dacquiris all around!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 05:26 PM

Another common expression for denoting a primate is "mangopicker". It can be taken either positively or negatively depending on the context, the tone of voice, and the facial expression of the speaker.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 12:21 PM

I dunno.... I'm torn between poop flinger and knuckle dragger. I wouldn't want to appear politically incorrect. Speaking of which, the immigrunt seems to be having a day off - perhaps he's out looking for a job.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 09:12 AM

Well...it's your lookout, man. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 01:40 AM

"one should not use the term under ANY circumstances."

Not even under extreme provocation in apt circumstances?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 11:54 PM

Here's an example of rank specism at its very worst! Be warned that it contains very upsetting scenes that may offend you deeply and cause you to lose sleep, foam at the mouth, and write angry letters to you congressman.

This is as bad as it gets

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 11:32 PM

Chongo tells me that these problems arise among apes and monkeys too...as to which word is considered acceptable and which isn't. Some chimps find the word "chimp" itself insulting and insist on the full term "chimpanzee", while others prefer terms like Primate-American, or African-Primate-American. "Knuckle-dragger" is frowned upon by most, while "banana peeler" is looked upon more favorably as long as it isn't preceded by the word "dirty".

Whatever the case....the expression "poop flinger" is definitely considered an extreme pejorative by ALL chimps nowadays, and one should not use the term under ANY circumstances.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:35 PM

It's sometimes a little difficult to know the acceptable terminology, because not everyone within a particular group agrees themselves. Some native Americans don't at all mind being called "Indians" (an indication that Columbus was really lost and totally clueless about where he actually was), whereas others find the word offensive. The terms "black" and "African-American" are also subject to conflict. Some find them offensive, while others prefer either one or the other.

I tend to think that Caryn Elaine Johnson (better known as "Whoopi Goldberg") has the right idea. She said, "Why African-American? My family has been in this country for generations. I don't regard myself as African-American. I'm an American."

I'll drink to that!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 07:21 PM

Little Hawk: "...what was it you just said to me, Don? ;-)"

Uh . . . I forget.

No lather on my part, Gervase. But an occasional full-throated snarl will often send the little rodent scurrying back into his hole. The operational part of my post was to ask David where the hell he got that. Did he actually read what I had posted on the movie thread? Doubtful. So where did he get the idea? I don't expect an answer, of course, because David is not into answers. But I am kind of curious as to which of his "poems" he would cite in an effort to substantiate my alleged disrespect for Indigenous Australians.

Just a note: part of my post about "Quigley Down Under" on the movie thread.

It takes place in the late eighteen-hundreds in Australia. Matthew Quigley (Tom Selleck) is an American cowboy hired to come to Australia because he is a crack shot with a long-range rifle. Sniper type. The man who hires him is Elliott Marston (Alan Rickman), who owns a ranch (station?), and Quigley is under the impression that he's being hired to kill varmints that are plaguing Marston's livestock. Marston has a different idea of what constitutes "varmints,"

Marston wants Quigley to kill any Indigenous Australians he finds on Marston's land.

and when Marston tells Quigley what he wants him to do, Quigley picks him up and throws him bodily out his own front door. Their relatationship kinda goes downhill from there. . . .

I used the term "Aborigines," not being aware that it might be regarded as pejorative, then duly apologized later in case I had offended anyone in my ignorance.

I notice, however, that David uses the word freely. Perhaps like throwing the "N-word" around without regard for whom he might offend.

I mean, if we're going to be strictly PC, then for heaven's sake, let's go all the way!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:48 PM

"Now Smokey has called also called me a "whiteboy" before adding "Of course, in the good old days they'd have banished him to the colonies..."...you seem to have about as much respect for Aborigines as Don. But, again, none of you have any seem to have any problem with that - just my questioning of THE ACT OF IMMIGRATION ITSELF..."

The problem is the gounds on which you question it, Whiteboy, and note carefully the capital 'W', and the absence of an 'a'. Not that it makes much difference; either way I think you're a racist twat.

Respect for 'Aborigines'? I don't know any. I'd hazard a guess that you are right though, and I have about as much respect for them as Don. For what it's worth, I'm ashamed and disgusted at what treatment they've had at the hands of Our Good Culture, and you have done nothing to rectify that. You should offer an apology to both Don and I for that remark. You don't even know the meaning of the word 'respect', you sad twat.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:24 PM

It's about time we all had a sincere apology from you, Spaw. Geez, man, I have waited years for this. YEARS, I tell you! This is almost as good as Obama winning the election. I'm breaking out the champagne here, man. Thanks! ;-D

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Gervase
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:23 PM

Don, why are you bothering getting into a lather with some racist little fuckwit who has already demonstrated that he knows bugger-all about music, poetry, history or anything, in fact, save driving fork-lift trucks?
It's like watching an elephant trying to swat a gnat. David Franks is too purblind, pig ignorant and thick skinned to be worth arguing with. Just accept the fact that there's probably something rather disturbed and inadequate about the poor chap (which clearly prevents him holding down a proper job and forces him to sponge off the state) and realise that he's probably more to be pitied than scorned. Or would be if he wasn't a racist.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:20 PM

News Alert!

I have taken to heart a post on the "Instrument Thread" from Brother Spleen Cringe. The suggestion being that Wavylimpdick may not be the right way to address Franks. The Spleen will no longer cringe as I have now pledged to refer to David as WavyFunkyWhiteBoyRacist.

I really couldn't prove he's a limpdick although he is certainly suspect. However, the new term he has proven himself through his many posts and links. I hope this works for all of you as well and I sincerely apologize for not correcting this earlier.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:11 PM

And that give us a whole new word for today:

Amnesia!

...what was it you just said to me, Don? ;-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:08 PM

Little Hawk, if someone lies about you, don't you think you have a right to set the record straight? If not, you leave me no choice but to curse you with that ancient and most dreaded of Japanese curses, "Whasamalayou!??"

But, of course, I mustn't do that, otherwise our resident racist will try to divert attention from himself (ironic, that, since he's here primarily for the attention!) by squealing with delight that I've just offered him further proof that I am a racist, not him.

So just forget it!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:07 PM

Back when we became defenders
    (We have plainly been attackers),
Defenders' blood, sweat and years
    Were paid to keep a good home-way -
A way yet to be part stealth-blown,
    As mass immigration gained-sway
And as we slipped as maintainers.
there has been a lot of this from, David Franks,but not much in the way of facts,what were the uk immigration figures for 2007,and what were the uk emigration figures,what were the uk figures for illegal immigrants.
David Franks,please supply these English from government sources,not from british national party,or english democrat sources

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:10 PM

If so, he should consider running for prime minister of the UK, because he will have shown that he can take the flak.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Stu
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:08 PM

Do you suppose WAV's self-esteem is intact after these threads?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 02:53 PM

Oops. Time for a new word of the day....

OUTRAGE!!!!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 02:37 PM

"...you seem to have about as much respect for Aborigines as Don."

And just where the hell did you get THAT, you weasel?

Never, at any time, have I ever expressed any lack of respect for Indigenous Australians. You, in fact, may be showing disrespect by using the term "Aborigines."

A short time back, on a thread about recently seen movies, I mentioned a movie that I enjoyed entitled "Quigley Down Under." Without going into detail about the movie (look it up if you're interested), in the course of my review, I used the term "Aborigines." Shortly thereafter, I read the following:

The word Aboriginal has been in use in English since at least the 17th century and means "first or earliest known, indigenous," (Latin Aborigines, from ab: from, and origo: origin, beginning). Strictly speaking, "Aborigine" is the noun and "Aboriginal" the adjectival form; however the latter is often also employed to stand as a noun. The use of "Aborigine(s)" or "Aboriginal(s)" in this sense, i.e., as a noun, has acquired negative, even derogatory connotations in some sectors of the community, who regard it as insensitive, and even offensive. The more acceptable and correct expression is "Aboriginal Australians" or "Aboriginal people," though even this is sometimes regarded as an expression to be avoided because of its historical associations with colonialism. "Indigenous Australians" has found increasing acceptance, particularly since the 1980s.

Unaware of this at the time I originally posted on the movie thread, I posted again and explained that I was, indeed, unaware of the possibly pejorative nature of the term and I duly apologized if I had inadvertently offended anyone.

David Franks, among being many other distinctly unadmirable things, you are also a liar!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 12:21 PM

And the word of the day is.........


Persiflage!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 10:02 AM

Nice, Pip; logical strings are always good to see.
WAV; Pip's post above is what academics refer to as 'reason'. He has concluded, using an authoritative source definition (the OED) and impeccable inductive logic that your expressed view of 'the act of immigration itself' is racist. You refuse to retract this view, indeed you promote it as part of your 'life's work' and 'a better way for humanity'. This recidivism therefore leads us to conclude that you are in fact an unapologetic racist. Using the same inductive logic, without resorting to unsubstantiated sources and unsupported opinion, can you argue otherwise? (Without referring to your utterly discredited websites). Take that as a challenge, WAV. I don't think you're up to it, myself.
I'd love to be able to make the logical connection that all racists are scum, but sadly that's just a personal opinion.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 08:21 AM

WAV - you define immigration (or if you prefer THE ACT OF IMMIGRATION ITSELF) to exclude yourself.
Therefore, 'immigration' means 'the immmigration of people of foreign ancestry'.
Therefore, you feel English culture is threatened by the arrival in England of people of foreign ancestry.
Therefore, what you're expressing is precisely

"prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, especially those felt to be a threat to one's cultural or racial integrity or economic well-being"

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 06:50 AM

"And do you think the record amount of economic/capitalist immigration under New Labour, during the good economic climate of the last few years, has helped with those just-above statistics, Stu?"

Well, your "re-patriation" certainly hasn't helped, has it? You also haven't responded yet to the following:

"Wavey: anyone who works in a specialist field in the UK needs to be prepared to re-locate to where the work is. My ex-husband, a journalist, was compelled to do this several times, taking wife and child with him. I, too, have had to apply for jobs which take me away from my immediate locality, because of the nature of my profession.

Do you apply for jobs nationally? Are you prepared to re-locate to get yourself off the dole? And you still haven't explained how a "re-patriate" on the dole benefits the indigenous culture more than an immigrant who is paying his way."

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 06:00 AM

The categories of immigration you quote aren't included in any statistics I can find. I merely checked on your assertion that Ruth was wrong. She was right.

I am an immigrant to Lancashire, which county has become my home, and whose natives have treated me as a welcome friend. I have taken part in the social structures of the area, and am proud to contribute (I think) positively.

I have no problem with immigrants. It's easy to point the finger when there are housing/employment/school problems, and attribute them to thecommon cause of immigration. It's sloppy thinking however. The labour force in a country is a resource that can be used to improve production, widen skill base, introduce new concepts. It doesn't matter where the people are from.

At different times in my life I have felt that immigration caused this otr that problem. I was wrong; I have grown up.

Sincerely

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 05:45 AM

Now Smokey has called also called me a "whiteboy" before adding "Of course, in the good old days they'd have banished him to the colonies..."...you seem to have about as much respect for Aborigines as Don. But, again, none of you have any seem to have any problem with that - just my questioning of THE ACT OF IMMIGRATION ITSELF...
And do you think the record amount of economic/capitalist immigration under New Labour, during the good economic climate of the last few years, has helped with those just-above statistics, Stu?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 04:03 AM

Unemployment is not equally distributed across the UK labour force. Age, qualifications, sex, ethnicity and location all have an impact on whether or not people become unemployed and on the length of time people spend out of work. In spring 2002 the North East had the highest unemployment rate of the English regions at 6.9 per cent, while the lowest rates were 3.5 per cent in the East and 3.6 per cent in the South West. Among the constituent countries of the United Kingdom, Scotland had the highest rate at 6.8 per cent, followed by Wales (6.1 per cent), Northern Ireland (5.6 per cent) and England (4.9 per cent).

Office of statistics

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:50 AM

Nah you're thinking of that Great British sea dog
Fellatio Nelson

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Paul Burke
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 03:44 AM

I suppose more than one didgeridoo could be a didgeriduo. But don't play them in harmony.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 12:59 AM

Wasn't he Italian?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:30 PM

Its no wonder you're such a dumbass. Leaarn to read for comprehension and not speed. Here's the follow-up post for the third time....And in your case, Don't play that funky music Whiteboy!!!!
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Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
From: catspaw49 - PM
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 09:15 AM

And Wavyracist......Just for your enlightenment since you obviously know fuck all about modern English OR world culture.........

H3>"Play That Funky Music" (also known as "Play That Funky Music, White Boy") is a funk rock song written by Robert Parissi and recorded by the rock band Wild Cherry. The song hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100 on September 18, 1976. It was also the basis of a top five U.S.A. hit for Vanilla Ice in 1990. The song also was #10 in the UK and is now listed at #73 on Billboard's Greatest Songs of all time."
The song was inspired by a black audience member who shouted, "Play some funky music, white boy" while they were playing at the 2001 Club. Lead singer Robert Parissi decided they should, and wrote down the phrase on a bar order pad. They later recorded it in Cleveland with a Disco sound. Although the band was concerned about the lyrics, Parissi insisted on keeping them.

Now I dunno' about # 73 all time but the phrase has certainly become part of our almost shared language. Here's another phrase brought about by an overwhelming majority opinion of folks on this thread and your other crapass threads as well...........


David Franks is a racist and a bigot.

Spaw

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Now go off and practice fellatio on your recorder.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 10:21 PM

I dunno. He'll only refer us to a "poem" on his web site.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 09:16 PM

A didgeridoo and two pounds of lard, perhaps.. and a stout length of rope to tie his kangaroo down with.

Is the correct plural didgeridee? Dare we ask him?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 08:05 PM

Isn't that where he returned from? Well, he could trade in his "English flute" for a didgeridoo.

Or would that be a didgeridon't?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Smokey
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 07:37 PM

Of course, in the good old days they'd have banished him to the colonies..