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Subject: Whitby and the golden egg From: Betsy Date: 16 Aug 08 - 07:44 PM I've just been down to Whitby this afternoon / tonight. Paid £2.80 pint for some shite called Deuchars , and £2.90 for a pint Courage Directors.I live in that part of the world and a decent pint is normally £2.20 / £2.30 Me and missus also had Cod and chips for more than double the price we could have had at a Redcar and argueabley better quality than Whitby. The point I am trying to make is, Whitby WAKE UP or you will frighten people away. Whitby - in short you are taking the piss - be very very careful. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 16 Aug 08 - 08:35 PM betsy £2.80 for Deuchars is is pretty good its only £ 2.60 in Leeds. As forthe fish and chips I don't know how much you pay in the Tees mouth but in Yorkshire we pay for quality ( usually from Scarbourgh) |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Tyke Date: 17 Aug 08 - 10:51 AM well you should have seen it coming! Sky high property prices plus longer working hours. Local pubs shutting down because they are empty no smoking? Red car! Bet you are glad you dont have a folk festival any more! |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Aleman Date: 18 Aug 08 - 06:52 AM "Paid £2.80 pint for some shite called Deuchars " A reflection of either how well/badly the beer had been kept, or your discernment when it comes to quality beer (Deuchars won the national 'beer of the year' a couple of years ago. As for £2.80, yea that's a bit steep. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Will Fly Date: 18 Aug 08 - 06:58 AM £2.80 eh? Luxury! £2.95 for a pint down here in Sussex...don't ask about Guinness prices... |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 18 Aug 08 - 07:07 AM Still don't think £2.80 is too bad. Its £3.00 a pint for Greene King IPA where I work. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Guest Chalkie Date: 18 Aug 08 - 07:13 AM The cost of fish and chips being twice as much - in my experience - at the coast as what I can get in land is something which I have never been able to understand. It is actually landed in Whitby, ie no transport costs so, if anything, it should be cheaper. Cost of beer in pubs, again, usually at the coast, is more expensive when it is already too expensive inland. When supermarkets are selling it so cheap is it any wonder that people are staying in and drinking more at home? One thing I can't really understand is the Weatherspoons chain, how can they sell it so much cheaper than the rest? It's almost as low as club prices. If they can do it why can't other chains? Sam Smiths pubs sell cheaper ale - again club prices - and although most would not drink Sam Smiths given a choice, surley there brewing costs are no different to that of other breweries? I don't think the number of pubs closing down has much to do with the smoking ban, it's the cost of the beer and yet when less customers come through the door they keep on putting the prices up. Madness. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: oggie Date: 18 Aug 08 - 08:05 AM "One thing I can't really understand is the Weatherspoons chain, how can they sell it so much cheaper than the rest? It's almost as low as club prices. If they can do it why can't other chains?" Weatherspoons speciality is buying up beer near to it's sell buy date for very little money and using it's logistic capacity to get it out to the pubs fast. The breweries make a loss on a lot of the beer they sell to Weatherspoons but it works out cheaper for them than just emptying it down the drain. It all means that they keep turning over the beers they stock.. Steve |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Dave Hanson Date: 18 Aug 08 - 10:36 AM Weatherspoons have great buying power, they have a vast pub chain and if brewers don't give them a big discount, they don't sell your beer, this is why Weatherspoons no longer sell Timothy Taylors, Taylors won't give discounts because they don't need to. The other one baffles me too, why is haddock and chips cheaper in West Yorkshire than in Whitby ? eric |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Greycap Date: 18 Aug 08 - 10:53 AM Just got back from Whitby this afternoon. Beer prices are stupid, we won't be going again, can't afford (as pensioners) to do so. Petrol prices, fish & chips, and beer are prohibitive. It's easier to drink & eat in Wetherspoons in Harrogate. It's a pity, 'cos we have been going to Whitby Folk Week since the 70's. Oh, well, things change...... |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Aleman Date: 18 Aug 08 - 11:30 AM "why is haddock and chips cheaper in West Yorkshire than in Whitby ? " Supply and demand, and a bit of market theory. The 2 markets in this example are not the same, and it has little to do with transport cost. You charge (usually) whatever maximises total profit - if you hike the price up in Whitby and folk still cough up, then you're in the pound seats. If you tried to do the same in W Yorks, you'd lose more custom than the extra you make on each unit sold etc etc Elasticity of demand and all that I think.... |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Mr Pig Date: 18 Aug 08 - 12:50 PM 'I don't think the number of pubs closing down has much to do with the smoking ban, it's the cost of the beer and yet when less customers come through the door they keep on putting the prices up. Madness.' Along with the smoking ban, the huge inflation on beer is a major issue - by 2012 the government are aiming for the average pint to cost £5. It is hard to hear people say that they are blaming Whitby and its people for these prices when escalating council tax costs, new business rates, extra bills for emptying bins, the costs of opening later, the police insistance on doorstaff, the brewery prices rising because of rising production and transportation costs, i can go on and on. The amazing thing about Whitby is that most of the businesses are owned and run by individuals, not big chains with massive buying power - so this is what you are paying for - the charm, friendliness and individuality of a beautiful town. Just for information too - the £2.80 Deuchars and £2.90 Directors quoted above are at the top end of the Whitby scale, and there are plenty of cheaper ales in all the pubs. Why not join one of the many online petitions to the goverment to slow down the rise in beer tax, and support the people resisting the corporate giants, i am sure everyone in Whitby is working very hard to make a living for themselves! |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST Date: 18 Aug 08 - 04:53 PM well I got stung for £2.95 for my first pint in the Station. Looked more carefully at the board after and got some beer at £2.65 but it has certainly reduced my intake - probably not a bad thing. I've promised myself some fish and chips tomorrow but perhaps I'll stop by the bank to arrange another mortgage first.
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,yarn Date: 18 Aug 08 - 05:16 PM Good for you Betsy, tell it as it is. I was at Saltburn festival the week before A small bottle of red wine which held 2 glasses cost a mere £2.40. Me and our lass got 4 glasses for £4.80 and double Mccalluns was £3. in Whitby a watery Orange juice and a pint of John Smiths cost £5.Not only that the festival was great. Ps Enjoyed your song at the White Hart, Betsy |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Watt Tyler Date: 18 Aug 08 - 06:26 PM Can I say (as a resident of Whitby) that the reason you are paying slightly above average prices for your quality fish & chips etc is that 1) They are just that - quality 2) That the traders in Whitby have a very short season and that they have to make their living during the months from April to September because after that the town goes pretty much dead. Whitby has been voted in numerous polls, the most preferred resort in the UK. Like any other tourist attraction it has its season and like any other tourist attraction it would be foolish not to exploit its standing as a popular spot. When many cities and larger towns are thriving in January and February, just take a walk down Church Street in Whitby. Chances are you'll be the only one on the cobbles. I don't think that stumping up, what amounts to probably only a tenner over the course of a week, for excess food and drink prices is too much to ask. If you ask me, Whitby's so beautiful that we should charge you all a fiver to get in! This thread reminds me of another that was on here not too long about tight folkies. HHhhhmmmmmmm, maybe there was some truth in it. Watt |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Dave Hanson Date: 19 Aug 08 - 03:00 AM Latest news is that Whitby town centre is flooded with raw sewage. eric |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 19 Aug 08 - 03:54 AM oh nice!! |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: gnomad Date: 19 Aug 08 - 05:54 AM Flooded is an emotive word, conjures up images of Boscastle, or maybe New Orleans. Yes a couple of weeks ago there was a fair bit of untreated sewerage going into the harbour, which took about three days to sort. I work on the water in and out of the harbour and it was a rough few days, though only really nasty near the point of discharge. Sunday and yesterday there were sewer covers on the east side clearly under some pressure after big rainfalls, and there was again some waste being discharged though less than last time. I wasn't working but saw the TV van and several of us were speculating as to what story they might be covering, the discharge wasn't big enough to make it an obvious answer. There is nothing by way of sewerage to be seen in the vast majority of the town centre. As to Betsy's original thead, yes prices here are in many cases a bit higher than in some other areas, one or two landlords spring particularly to mind. I think, however, that we are probably close to national average prices whereas much of the northeast is lucky enough to enjoy below-average prices. Our F&C shops could also lower their prices if they sold less gargantuan portions, which would also mean that we had fewer half-portions of leftovers to clean off the streets at ratepayers' expense. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,local Date: 19 Aug 08 - 05:57 AM Can I say as a resident of Whitby, that if you would rather drink in Wetherspoons or eat second rate fish and chips made from frozen transported fish, then please do... you are welcome to them. We don't have a Wetherspoons in town, same as we don't have a McDonalds or any other cheap, low quality fast food/beer chains and we don't want them. If you don't like it, don't come. We won't miss you. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,real local Date: 19 Aug 08 - 06:37 AM Well said "local" These people get right up my nose... They come to Whitby thinking they have some, God given right to, cheap holidays, food, accommodation, drink etc... (and parking) If you don't like it stick to Redcar and the lovely local scene on the South Bank of the Tees... |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Cliff Date: 19 Aug 08 - 09:20 AM Guests 'Local' & 'real local' If, as you say, you wont miss 'outsiders' if they didnt come how will Whitby survive? The majority of your income is from visitors (see post above re. tourist season) so I would think it in your interests to encourage rather than name call. Luckily, most people in Whitby are friendly unlike yourselves. As to drink prices - its OK saying that they are about national average but remember that wages in this area are BELOW national average. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,local Date: 19 Aug 08 - 09:35 AM I'm not saying we would'nt miss 'outsiders'(not exactly a friendly term) just that those who think Whitby should become a homogenous town centre with plastic pubs and cheap nasty fast food, as opposed to a lovely independent town centre with real pubs and fresh fish and chips as well as independent shops and character should go elsewhere. They clearly don't want us, so we don't want them. I am not going to apologise for that. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,MC Fat Date: 19 Aug 08 - 10:02 AM Oggie the only shite you are peddaling is the old tale about Wetherspoons buying near to sell buy date beer that's pure bollocks. Wetherspoons keep their prices low because their staff ratio is low and they only pay £40 for a nine gallon barrell, if you've ever organised a bar you'll know that £60 is near the mark and thats if you can get a discount and this is from someone who dislikes Wetherspoons as a chain. The Deuchers at £2.80 will be from an Enterprise or Punch Taverns leased house and they have to buy their beer from their landlord at sky high prices. However Whitby always has been expensive for beer and I estimate it's about a third higher than Sheffield for retail prices and the reson is... as stated earlier we tourists help them get through the winter. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Mr Pig Date: 19 Aug 08 - 10:37 AM Getting 'Stung' for a pint is not really fair as all pubs list prices at numerous points in their pub, so it is easy enough to choose in your price range before you order. Whitby may be a bit more expensive but you pay for what you get, it is a nice friendly place that everyone is welcome to enjoy. Manners cost nothing but there have not been many people with them in the past few days! |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 19 Aug 08 - 10:43 AM Aside from the complaints about beer and fish and chips and rude folks, how is the festival going so far. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Watt Tyler Date: 19 Aug 08 - 11:13 AM To le cheffie - WET! I'm with local and real local on this one. we don't want shit beer and shit fast foods. I know that McDonalds applied to open in town and Wetherspoons are constantly trying to get in. Thankfully SBC turned down McD's (one of the rare good things that SBC have done) and the owners of The Shambles have snubbed the advances of Wetherspoons on more than one occasion as far as I'm aware. Thank God for Whitby and it's traditions. As was previously said, if you don't like it then don't come. It will survive without the odd moaner. You can always slum it in Redcar of course! Watt |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 19 Aug 08 - 11:26 AM One of the many things I have always liked about Whitby is the absence of the usual high street fast food chains and Wetherspoon's. Long may it remain that way. Although I'm not at the festival I hope to visit some time soon |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Guest - Chalkie Date: 19 Aug 08 - 01:42 PM Why is when "a local" can not put up a good enough argument they always come up with something like "if you don't like it don't bother coming". The quality of fish and chips in Whitby is no better than the quality of fish and chips at my corner chippy in Ponte - and I like my fish and chips. So the argument about paying for what you get is crap. Also, the argument of supply and demand is just another excuse for ripping people off. Paying 2.85/2.95/3.00 a pint is ripping people off, in what I keep getting told is a friendly town. Ripping peoiple off is not being friendly. Why are so many people against the Weatherspoons chain? What is so bad about them? They serve various real ales - though most real ales in most pubs are lousey, but, a lot of people seem to like flat beer these days, so, what do I know - and they sell their beer cheap. What have they done to deserve the slating. One thing's for sure, if they ever did get in to Whitby, it would be the most popular pub, because the beer would be so much cheaper than anyone else. Perhaps then the others would lower their prices. I love tradditional pubs and I like a good pint and yes, many pubs in Whitby do keep a good pint, though there are plenty of others who don't and still charge top whack. Fish and Chips, and beer is too expensive in what is one of the most popular seaside resorts in the country. There may not be many people walking up Church Street in Febuary but by hell, there's many more than there is in most other in land towns most other months which should more than make up for it. Anyway, I wasn't able to make Folk Week this year but whether welcome or not by locals, whether the beer is good or crap, whether the cost of beer has come down to a reasonable level or is still extortionate, I'll be there next year for the full week because I'm not missing out two years running on the best folf festival in the country!Rain or shine. Love and kisses to all. Chalkie |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Watt Tyler Date: 19 Aug 08 - 02:00 PM Thanks for your views Chalkie. I've already aired mine so won't bother boring you with them again. My only disagreement is with the use of the phrase "ripoff". There is no such thing! Whether you get fleeced when buying a pint of beer in a Whitby pub or get stiffed when buying a timeshare, it all amounts to the same thing - NOBODY MAKES YOU DO IT! If you choose to pay the prices then there's no use complaining afterwards. Incidentally, I would like to refer back to my previous comment about tight folkies. Do these debates rage on after Glastonbury, Reading, Leeds etc? No! Simply because the punters know what to expect. Please people, don't tell me after all your collective years of going to folk festivals, that you don't know what's coming. Is it really such a surprise to you? Many of you don't pay towards the festival anyway and simply choose to go to the free events. So stop the whining and give something back PLEASE! Watt |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Tyke Date: 19 Aug 08 - 02:19 PM ok its guess the price of o pint of water and a glass of soda water in the first inn last out. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Dave (Bridge) Date: 19 Aug 08 - 04:23 PM Just back from three days at Whitby. Yes beer, especially Guinness, was expensive. However, I reckon at £5 per round for me and my partner multiplied by 4 is not a bad night out when you are listening to good singers singing great songs and harmonies, for 'free' in the little room in the Station. You would pay a lot more for a concert and have to buy drinks on top. You get what you pay for. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,MC Fat Date: 20 Aug 08 - 03:30 AM One thing peeps have forgotten in wishing for a Wetherspoons is that they probably wouldn't allow music anyway cos they won't pay the performance licence |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: The Sandman Date: 20 Aug 08 - 04:57 AM Sam Smiths, dont allow music either and their beer is more expensive. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 20 Aug 08 - 06:23 AM On Monday when the reports of more sewage were on the news we had fish and chips in the vicinity of Whitby harbour and they were absolutely delicious :-) Worth every penny. I think that gnomad made a good point about the size of the portions; I struggle sometimes to finish them. We have an excellent fish and chip shop near us in Harrogate and when the people serving think that the fish are a bit small they give you two for the price of one! It must be a fish and chips thing. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Betsy at Work Date: 20 Aug 08 - 08:15 AM Look - let me say I love Whitby, me and my other half visit at all times of the year - not just Summer. Remember that Whitby is a place of high unemployment, so I don't understand also how locals afford these prices. I was just remarking pricewise - it is starting to slip and someone inflential in the Town needs to pull the pieces together , before they drift into a situation of being a great friendly welcoming town, into one of (and many exist already) who have an attitude of " We want your money but we don't want you ". Whitby should be above all that type of mindset. To Tyke's early post - Redcar moved to Saltburn which also enjoys a reputation for reasonable priced varied brews and very good fish and chips. Padge I actually of an organic brew which was from Pinchthorpe which was mind - blowingly delicious. Half my problem is mathematical, I think it is the thought of not being able to get 4 pints out ogf a Ten Pound Note. By the way, let's be honest - how many of you are going to drink 4 pints a day at Whitby Festival - not many !!!!. Good luck with the weather for the rest of the festival you all deserve a little bit of sun. Betsy. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Dave Hanson Date: 20 Aug 08 - 09:17 AM I've always enjoyed good fish and chips in Whitby, we only ate in the Magpie Cafe once, the food was superb and the portions were bloody gigantic. eric |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Aleman Date: 20 Aug 08 - 09:39 AM "By the way, let's be honest - how many of you are going to drink 4 pints a day at Whitby Festival - not many !!!!. " You have got to be joking! (or do you mean ONLY 4 pints...) |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 20 Aug 08 - 09:49 AM When I was single and used to attend whitby for the week, i would actually ration myself to £20.00 per day for beer and food, and managed it quite well. On the subject of Fish and chips I like a big piece of chips but why oh why do they insist on giving such large portions of chips |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 20 Aug 08 - 11:40 AM Whitby's tourist season is not merely an Easter to September occurance as suggested above, in reality there are only two weeks after new year when the town is truly devoid of tourists. As soon as some people get their monthly pay cheque in January tourism picks up, especially at weekend. Weekdays see numerous coach trips land in town, especially of the "Shearings" variety. True there are not the vast numbers normally seen July/August time but only a few shops close for the "closed season" as they used to. As for the price of beers, many of the pubs have grossly inflated rents to pay and grossly inflated prices to pay for the products they retail, there are exceptions who could charge less but they are few and far between. Just as a rider, is it my imagination or is folk week very quiet this year. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Betsy Date: 20 Aug 08 - 02:33 PM Aleman - Correct you are !!! my sentence /question should have read - ".........ONLY 4 pints............" I agree with Raggytash re:- rents etc. THAT situation is happening in all our own towns and villages (generally Brewery-driven)with a similar effect. I'm just trying to alert Whitby and it's good reputation, and being a relative Mecca for Folk gatherings (not only Folk FEST week) other events besides, that, maybe , just maybe, they may start to frighten off people if the rises , perceived or otherwise go unchecked. Case in point - just up the road from Whitby - 10 Miles or so in Staithes - they had a Weekend Folk bash a Month ago - ( I appreciate that the size of the bash was not comparable to Whitby Folk week ). The landlord had 6 Real ales and other bog standard beers /lager all priced a 2 Quid a pint - which, without going into details, represents a big financial ease on your pocket over the entire weekend. As most contributors to this thread will know ,Eric the Reds reference to the Magpie - which can said to be in a class of it's own(price and quality)is an exception to the generality of the discussion. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Mary Humphreys Date: 20 Aug 08 - 03:19 PM I wasn't there this year, but my recollection of the food in Whitby is ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!!! Last year I had a lobster salad in the Duke of York pub, along with a very good glass of white wine at half the price you would have paid in Southern pubs or restaurants. I also had a crab salad on another day I was eating out. Again - superb food and a bargain price. Just off the boat.Couldn't get that sort of price anywhere in East Anglia. Why go for fish and chips ( bad for the waistline) when you can have something much tastier and better for your health? Our visit to the Magpie was a fabulous experience, but the portions there were far beyond any normal appetite. If they cut the portion size they might be able to reduce the price. I really don't think that any ordinary appetite could cope with the food put on the plate. I think Whitby is very good value for money if you want to eat good fresh food. Beer prices I leave to others to argue about! Mary |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Harry H Date: 20 Aug 08 - 07:16 PM Just back from Whitby and have to say that there's validity on both sides of the argument. We enjoyed some great hospitality but were annoyed to be charged £1 for a pint of tap water at the Middle Earth. This was even more galling as we'd just returned to the bar after to tell them that we'd been undercharged by the price of two pints of bitter. I know what I'd do if I was undercharged again! Some of the food outlets are overly expensive, but Cambridge is an expensive town and I don't recall anyone complaining about prices in and around CFF. More worrying was the decline in numbers. I wasn't the only one to comment on the lack of folkies in the usual pubs. On the otherhand, year upon year of bad weather doesn't help! |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Nick Date: 20 Aug 08 - 08:04 PM In the Middle Earth I was charged £1.20 for a pint and a half of blackcurrant and soda which is not bad in this day and age - the last person who tried to charge me over £2 for a pint of it nearly got it over their shirt. Plus it was a nice place to play and sing so I don't have any problems with that. £1 a pint for same drink in the Endeavour. I think the Fleece was more. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Paco Rabanne Date: 21 Aug 08 - 03:41 AM If you factor in the price of accomodation, it's cheaper for Mrs rabanne and myself to go to seville, which is what are going to do. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 21 Aug 08 - 07:41 AM I was watching the dance display at the Scoresby monument yesterday afternoon and decided to pop across the road to the newly refurbished and attended toilets (the first time I'd seen them open). 40p to go to the loo (used to be 20p). I decided that that was just too much so I went across the bridge to the free unattended toilets. They were grim (worse than the last time I used them). Well, next time I'm paying the 40p ~ whilst it seems a lot I'm sure it is well worth it! Also, provides more jobs for people. I suppose that if I'd been really sensible I'd have popped into the Station, bought a drink and gone to the loo for nothing. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 21 Aug 08 - 07:47 AM Just adding to the comments about declining numbers. There seem to be fewer dance teams than usual. However the town is heaving with people despite the heavy rain. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: BB Date: 21 Aug 08 - 02:30 PM I wonder if that's N. Yorks. Council charging the 40p for the loos - Scarborough was the same this year, also up 100% on last. 8/- to spend a penny - bloody hell! Barbara |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Eileen Knowles Date: 21 Aug 08 - 07:10 PM A visit to Whitby is always a treat. The folk scene was quieter this year, because of the weather, I think. The price of a pint varies enormously all over the country, even from one pub to another in the same town, so that's not a phenomenon peculiar to Whitby. We eat at Arbut's cafe when we arrive in the morning and get a huge breakfast, well-priced, and a welcome which never varies. Thank you, Whitby. |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: le cheffie Date: 21 Aug 08 - 07:11 PM BB the facilities in both Whitby and Scarbourgh are run by Scarbourgh bourgh council, not N Yorks county council |
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Subject: RE: Whitby and the golden egg From: GUEST,Bruce Michael Baillie Date: 22 Aug 08 - 12:51 AM ...Well there you go! wittering over spending an extra few quid! Some of us couldn't afford to go on holiday this year so you bunch of tight fisted buggers mithering over the 'extortionate' price of a couple of pints goes down like a lead balloon! AT LEAST YOU'VE HAD A BLEEDING HOLIDAY!!! |
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